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I’m starting to think this whole “skillful trading” thing is a myth—charts, indicators, “alpha” whispers… it all feels like smoke and mirrors. One minute you’re convinced your TA is bulletproof, the next you’re underwater because some pump-and-dump bot jacked the price. Feels like half the volumes are bots and the other half are FOMO maniacs hitting “buy” on whatever ticker looks shiny.
So get this—I stumbled on a tool called randombag that literally picks you a random basket of tokens from a curated trend list and buys them for you with one click. No research, no DD, no strategy—just pure randomness. And some users swear it actually outperforms their painstaking analysis but who knows if it also smoke.
Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
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July 16, 2025, 08:41:30 PM |
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Hey, when it comes to altcoin investments, there is no one that is so perfect at it to tell you the choice of coins that will do well when you invest into them. Most of them are just trials and errors and some investors of altcoins believe if you diversify in buying most of them, luck might find you to be lucky that few of them gets to pump and you make money from them.
Those bots may get to know coins that will perform after receiving analysis of their market conditions and project map, but can a bit also know if a project team want to rug pull its investors,? No it won’t, so that makes even such bot not 100% to be trusted in picking the best altcoin to invest into.
The truth about altcoins that is preached in reality is that you should only invest what you can afford to lose in them and not put all your money in them hoping to get good returns. Research also works here to minimise loss in the choice of coin selected to invest into, some could do well but you need to research well about it.
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July 16, 2025, 09:04:10 PM |
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It is quite risky and can lead to regret. FOMO can drive us to anxiety for some immediate action, without any research, just the certainty that any coin can reach high gains as long as the purchase is made as quickly as possible. I think altseasons are governed by certain narratives absorbed by a part of the market, which leads a series of projects to stand out more than others. In 2021/2022, DeFi took over due to attractive passive income proposals, leading tokens to explosive valuations (and million-dollar thefts through vulnerabilities in their protocols). The next altseason seems to count again on DeFi, maybe with greater focus on those offering liquidity to large traditional institutions, with low fees and interoperability across different blockchains. I believe that DeSci and DePin are also interesting narratives due to their applicability to "real" problems and mass adoption. I’m not sure if your intention is about quick trades or longer-term holding; in any case, I suggest looking for reasonably reliable sources where you can update yourself on the most disruptive developments in the market and navigate projects until some of them convince you through their narrative to the point that holding is not such a strenuous task. DeFis can be interesting in this respect because of passive income, which would guarantee you some immediate return and a gradual reduction of exposure to risk. DePin projects with a large user base may offer a higher probability of organic growth and sustainable long-term appreciation. There are DeSci projects already showing good results in the search for new ways to deal with pathogens, projects that can even be directly invested in via their own tokens on launchpads such as Bio. In short, value your hard-earned money and position it in the best possible way, as we may be facing a strong altseason.
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July 16, 2025, 09:59:15 PM |
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It's more of a big gamble than just strategy. Instead of buying tokens, why not just play some slot games? I mean, you want randomness, right? Try slot games and after many tries come tell us what the outcome will be? Obviously, there are very many chance that you are still going to lose out. There are so many shitcoins out there and they always just die. Maybe that's what you want? A portfolio of dead coins?
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July 16, 2025, 11:38:46 PM |
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I’m starting to think this whole “skillful trading” thing is a myth—charts, indicators, “alpha” whispers… it all feels like smoke and mirrors. One minute you’re convinced your TA is bulletproof, the next you’re underwater because some pump-and-dump bot jacked the price. Feels like half the volumes are bots and the other half are FOMO maniacs hitting “buy” on whatever ticker looks shiny.
So get this—I stumbled on a tool called randombag that literally picks you a random basket of tokens from a curated trend list and buys them for you with one click. No research, no DD, no strategy—just pure randomness. And some users swear it actually outperforms their painstaking analysis but who knows if it also smoke.
Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
The concept of using bots to predict potential altcoins also has its own risk as most coins are created for the purpose of rug pull so it's best you invest with the mindset that nothing is promised for altcoins as there are no fundamentals for this coins but also a possibility of making 10x or even 20x with the right information. It's consistency can be debated so the analysis of how and what time to buy couldn't be fully evaluated.
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July 17, 2025, 12:51:24 AM |
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Technical analysis is only one form of analysis. You also have on-chain analysis, fundamental analysis and sentiment analysis. Your TA might be perfect, but an on-chain, fundamental or sentiment shift can easily invalidate it. It also depends on what pair you are trading, some pairs are flawed by default due to their tokenomics (ties into fundamentals). Doing no research is not a better strategy than doing research, that's nonsense 
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July 18, 2025, 06:55:16 PM |
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It sounds like a strategy to lose all your money  buying tokens randomly is definitely a bad idea. But I agree with you in that charts, indicators and a lot of alpha are usually bs and don't have anything based in reality backing them up. People will point to a chart and claim whatever the chart shows is guarantees that it will go up, that's nonsense. At the end of the day nothing is better than doing your own due diligence, educate yourself so you can make the right decision instead of trusting these influencers trying to scam you.
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July 18, 2025, 07:40:04 PM |
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Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
Is that really a strategy? I don’t think so, you just investing blindly hoping to be lucky to make profit in a coin, but I will say that’s completely rubbish. With the number of altcoins we have in the market currently, and more are still entering the market, why won’t you do your research before entering anyone, why will you just choose randomly, it doesn’t make sense. We all know how risky altcoin investment is, even if you decide to do your research, you might still end up investing in wrong coin, then come to think of you choosing coins randomly, you should know you just going to be wasting your money, because you hardly going to be making any profit. I will recommend you stay away from altcoin investment if you can. just focus on bitcoin, and if you really having the intention to invest in altcoins, then do your research and choose strong altcoins in the market, and leave just little amount of money in them, because their is no assurance in bitcoin, you can easily lose when you invest in altcoins.
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July 18, 2025, 10:06:51 PM |
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It's important to understand that a strategy has a structured foundation, meaning you must complete step 1 before moving on to step 2. If you buy randomly, you're definitely gambling, with uncertain profit probabilities.
The real problem isn't that complex strategies are ineffective, but rather that you're overly insistent on complex methods. Not all trading strategies need to be implemented, simply choose the ones that best suit your needs. Trading strategies are designed to meet the needs of traders, not the other way around.
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Whenever you are buying altcoins most especially those in the memecoins categories, you should know that you are gambling with the money and at that, no matter the level of the analysis of the market you do before buying them you will still have to have high luck to see the market go in your favor, because of altcoins high volatilities, So you seems to be gambling whenever you buy them and that high risk volatilities makes a mess of whatever strategy you use in buying those coins.
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July 18, 2025, 11:59:14 PM |
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Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
Checking the name of the platform, you’ll still have to use your option on what to choose based on the choices this random bag platform wants to offer; it may be called random bag, but they still have a criterion for a project to get in the system, if there is none; then, people will lose interest in this platform. If you choose this option, you should still use your common sense and analysis; if you do not, then you are essentially throwing your money away. You’ll get better if you practice your common sense and analysis in all your investments, rather than just closing your eyes and picking things.
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July 19, 2025, 01:01:19 AM |
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Well, if by doing a research it's already a challenge to profit from this volatile and speculative market, now imagine not applying any strategies at all. I believe it's similar to gambling: results on long run are already bad when applying strategies, but much worse if none strategies are applied at all. So, don't neglect doing your own research. At least by doing so you are going to raise your chances of avoiding the worse coins, in an attempt to focus on the promising ones.
It's not guarantee of success, but you can definitely increase your chances. And in case you aren't comfortable with this situation, why to invest in altcoins, then? Probably you should be directing your money to more solid investments where you don't have to rely on luck or randomness to thrive.
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July 19, 2025, 01:23:08 AM |
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Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge?
Nope. Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead?
Me, I did this and guess what? I've just thrown a lot of $10, $20 to $100 of bucks to random altcoins that I thought will also get up if the altcoin season comes but, none of them got me even a breakeven. Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
Maybe, it's really hard to spot some good projects and it's better to go sluggish and lower returns with the established ones.
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July 19, 2025, 10:54:53 AM Last edit: July 19, 2025, 11:13:31 AM by Lanatsa |
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Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
Is that really a strategy? I don’t think so, you just investing blindly hoping to be lucky to make profit in a coin, but I will say that’s completely rubbish. With the number of altcoins we have in the market currently, and more are still entering the market, why won’t you do your research before entering anyone, why will you just choose randomly, it doesn’t make sense. We all know how risky altcoin investment is, even if you decide to do your research, you might still end up investing in wrong coin, then come to think of you choosing coins randomly, you should know you just going to be wasting your money, because you hardly going to be making any profit. I will recommend you stay away from altcoin investment if you can. just focus on bitcoin, and if you really having the intention to invest in altcoins, then do your research and choose strong altcoins in the market, and leave just little amount of money in them, because their is no assurance in bitcoin, you can easily lose when you invest in altcoins. Investing blindly is never been considered to be strategy but rather it is that a pure gamble and this should be that put up into your mind. Never ever trying out to have those kind of approach at the time that you do deal up with token investment or with some altcoins on which this could cause up that huge impact at the time that you would be having that loses with those token investment. Although its never been that a guaranteed thing even if you do make out some analysis but it is that much more better approach rather than on making yourself that making up some blind investment on which just like been said that it is just that still similar to gambling on this case and also its not a the right way on making up some investment on which you do need up to apply some analysis and research before doing it out. No one likes on losing money and we've been trying out to deal into this market just because we do want to have that potential profit on which of course its not guaranteed but its not impossible if you do know on what you are that doing. You should know on what you are that doing at the time that you would be making up some investment and you cant just that make yourself that making up some blind buying with those altcoins. If we do consider on how many altcoins that we do have in the market then it would be that so hard on taking up some choices and this is where risks factor and management would matter on this case. Strategy will differ into each trader because we do have that different level when it comes to skills and knowledge towards this space and you cant just that make yourself that easily make up some choices without having any in depth reasearch on things. Make sure that you are fully aware on what are the actions that you should gonna take and also take up some back up plans if ever you would be facing up some loses.
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July 19, 2025, 11:04:14 AM Last edit: July 19, 2025, 11:18:35 AM by Accardo |
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It's crazy what altcoin do to people's money and it's unfair to attack a random market with a random strategy. Give it time, watch closely which category of coins worked over the past few years and play around with their offsprings. Bad developers always come up with similar ugly looking type of sh*t because that's who they are.
Their work wouldn't come close to the catch on authenticity that accompanies a genuine project just by going through the structures and systems, or the team work force. By the way, the investor shouldn't rush the task, out there in the market exist quality altcoins qualified for investment, and unfortunately, a fast random process may never land to it, luck quite would, until then it's a gamble.
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This really hits on the core frustration many retail traders feel. Trying to make sense of a market that often behaves irrationally, with bots front-running, influencers shilling, and sudden dumps wiping out solid-looking setups. The idea of letting randomness take the wheel is definitely provocative, and in some cases might even outperform retail “analysis” during hype cycles.
That said, while random baskets might give exposure to unexpected moonshots, they also expose you to a lot of garbage. Without filtering for dev activity, tokenomics, or even basic red flags, you risk bag-holding projects that were never meant to survive.
I get the appeal of throwing darts when the game feels rigged. But in the long run, filtering for fundamentals, narrative strength, or even just active devs gives you a better edge than pure chance.
Use randomness for fun or experimentation, but don’t build your whole strategy on it… or stay away from it.
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Fundamental analysis is still important, there are tons of altcoins out there and 99% are just plain shit coin. You'd only have 1% chance of making it and create profit out of all those thousands of altcoins.
But with fundamental analysis you can increase the odd. You can try yourself investing randomly into shitcoin, find out which one make money, there's big chance you'd be losing by randomly investing into all of them.
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Makes me wonder: in a market this rigged and noisy, is randomness the ultimate hedge? Has anyone here ever tried a dartboard approach—just throwing capital at random coins—and come out ahead? Or are we all fools chasing unicorns while a monkey with a dart could do just as well? Keen to hear your war stories or data if you’ve tried pure chance over “skill.”
I rather sounds like a way to gamble away one's money, though. It is true that the market of alt coins is very unpredictable, but that does not mean some technical analysis won't help one to take good choice when picking up tokens with actual potential. Let us not forget there are a lot of scams out there in this market and just randomly choosing tokens and coins with no research would be the equivalent of giving your money to scammers and fraudsters. Do your own research and at least take a look at the token distribution and the roadmap of the project you are staking your money at.
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Completely randomly? Definitely no! There are more than 4 million tokens, and if you invested in 99.99% of them you would have lost money! A couple of years ago there was someone who gave up on picking tokens and just bought top 100 listed on Coingecko if I remember correctly. He was doing fine for a while, I don't know if there is an update on that. Anyhow, randomly is a bad idea.
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Hey, when it comes to altcoin investments, there is no one that is so perfect at it to tell you the choice of coins that will do well when you invest into them. Most of them are just trials and errors and some investors of altcoins believe if you diversify in buying most of them, luck might find you to be lucky that few of them gets to pump and you make money from them.
Those bots may get to know coins that will perform after receiving analysis of their market conditions and project map, but can a bit also know if a project team want to rug pull its investors,? No it won’t, so that makes even such bot not 100% to be trusted in picking the best altcoin to invest into.
The truth about altcoins that is preached in reality is that you should only invest what you can afford to lose in them and not put all your money in them hoping to get good returns. Research also works here to minimise loss in the choice of coin selected to invest into, some could do well but you need to research well about it.
it’s all just high-risk betting in disguise. Bots can read charts, but not team intentions - rugs don’t show up in TA. In a market this wild, randomness isn’t worse than “research.” Just don’t bet more than you can lose.
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