Targeting vulnerable gamblers

[giorgione]

Few days earlier I tried a casino site, it gives me 150 free spins of Sweet Bonanza . I player and won more than $80 , and winning was so easy. It was like it's designed to win. Well most casino offered 40x wagering requirements to get the bonus. But that casino only set the requirements in 20 , but a 3day time limit. I've to complete it within 3days but not all games is applicable only their selected bonus game. Here's the trick, their bonis game will trap you and you will loose more than your bonus amount.

Eventually they came here to do some business if gamblers are going to grab some easy cash how will they do business. It is legal as long as they state this in their Tos. Unless they are doing cheating in their original games

That is many free spins you got because I rarely get free spins and also a big win. But hey, with 20x wagering requirements and a 3-day time limit, it should not be easy to reach. We will still difficult to reach the wagering requirements.

I just think that the bonus game is a trap for greedy gamblers so they can not think about stopping gambling. They will still chase the wagering requirements no matter if they spend more money.

If they are wise gamblers, they will not try to take the bonus because they will consider that is difficult for them. They know what they should do and will not spend more money just to gamble.

Not all casinos are this unfair, this is a pure scam and a speculation on people who want to gamble, obviously these strange winnings always affect games like slots which are more addictive than all, so be careful and play only in serious casinos

[danherbias07]

I think they target all gamblers. Bonus offers aren't usually targeted at a specific audience. Except when the casino works with different levels of gamblers, in which case the offers are specific to that level. Those who gamble more can't be considered "vulnerable," but rather those with greater financial power, and the casino will certainly do everything it can to keep these gamblers spending with them, offering a range of perks.

Yeah, I agree with that. Small or big, that's still profit for them. Everything is about making money, so they don't need to pick those high rollers just to look unfair. It is unfair, especially in slot and casino games, so they don't really have to target anyone to win. It is natural because of the house edge, so even if a person bets 1 million and the other $1, both will probably lose in the long run.

I've seen high rollers win very big amounts with a high stake on the line, and their names keep popping out almost every 2 days. It just means there is no such thing as a targeted player.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I think they target all gamblers. Bonus offers aren't usually targeted at a specific audience. Except when the casino works with different levels of gamblers, in which case the offers are specific to that level. Those who gamble more can't be considered "vulnerable," but rather those with greater financial power, and the casino will certainly do everything it can to keep these gamblers spending with them, offering a range of perks.

Yeah, I agree with that. Small or big, that's still profit for them. Everything is about making money, so they don't need to pick those high rollers just to look unfair. It is unfair, especially in slot and casino games, so they don't really have to target anyone to win. It is natural because of the house edge, so even if a person bets 1 million and the other $1, both will probably lose in the long run.

I've seen high rollers win very big amounts with a high stake on the line, and their names keep popping out almost every 2 days. It just means there is no such thing as a targeted player.

Well, I agree with the both of you, something the other user said which I like very much is that those with lots of money are more vulnerable to whatever tactics a casino brings up to win and keep their customers because this is what every casino that wants to succeed in the gambling industry wants, they want to keep as many high rollers are possible because this is the type of gamblers they will be making good money from; from time to time.

And when it comes to winning and losing, I would say that the casinos are sure fair to both the high rollers and the pleb or crayfish gamblers, as winning and losing is simply algorithmed and not hand picked by those who run the casino, if winners were handpicked by the management of the casino, then it would have been safe to accuse or say that casinos are picking only the high rollers as winners in a game where both high rollers and crayfish gamblers are playing which will be absolutely unfair.

[Luzin]

I think the implementation of this rule has become standard practice. Self-control is also influenced by age. The older a person is, the more mature their self-control should be. But I have my doubts, because this requirement can be circumvented by underage users. They use fake identities.

Furthermore, I think all casinos won’t think that far ahead. Considering whether they are addicted or not. Casinos only provide facilities and requirements to meet licensing requirements. They will continue to focus on providing gambling entertainment. So I think casinos will keep thinking about how to attract more visitors and make a profit.

[Distinctin]

As far as I know, every business wants to take an advantage for those who can give them potential profits, and casino is not an exception. As much as possible, they will create a marketing strategy so that you will get more attracted to play by sending you various promos and bonuses, it’s up for you if you will bite that offer or not. But I don’t know if it’s done on a specific person or everyone gets uniform promos information because the more get informed, the higher the profit potentials will be.

However, what I also experienced is that if you take a break from gambling on that casino, they will send you series of promos infos and invites, that will literally make the gambler wants to play again.

[₿itcoin]

I think the implementation of this rule has become standard practice. Self-control is also influenced by age. The older a person is, the more mature their self-control should be. But I have my doubts, because this requirement can be circumvented by underage users. They use fake identities.

Furthermore, I think all casinos won’t think that far ahead. Considering whether they are addicted or not. Casinos only provide facilities and requirements to meet licensing requirements. They will continue to focus on providing gambling entertainment. So I think casinos will keep thinking about how to attract more visitors and make a profit.

Online casinos usually are concentrated in drawing more clients to make more money, so they might not take precautions & prevent underage gambling. While few platforms use KYC & Self exclusion programs. They have flaws like you could use forged ID to go round the system . Casinos might not frequently impose these rules rigorously, mainly if it deters their profit. So it is very critical that officials look into this & ensure that gambling dens are responsible for protecting underage people.

[Mahanton]

I think they target all gamblers. Bonus offers aren't usually targeted at a specific audience. Except when the casino works with different levels of gamblers, in which case the offers are specific to that level. Those who gamble more can't be considered "vulnerable," but rather those with greater financial power, and the casino will certainly do everything it can to keep these gamblers spending with them, offering a range of perks.

Yeah, I agree with that. Small or big, that's still profit for them. Everything is about making money, so they don't need to pick those high rollers just to look unfair. It is unfair, especially in slot and casino games, so they don't really have to target anyone to win. It is natural because of the house edge, so even if a person bets 1 million and the other $1, both will probably lose in the long run.

I've seen high rollers win very big amounts with a high stake on the line, and their names keep popping out almost every 2 days. It just means there is no such thing as a targeted player.

Well, I agree with the both of you, something the other user said which I like very much is that those with lots of money are more vulnerable to whatever tactics a casino brings up to win and keep their customers because this is what every casino that wants to succeed in the gambling industry wants, they want to keep as many high rollers are possible because this is the type of gamblers they will be making good money from; from time to time.

And when it comes to winning and losing, I would say that the casinos are sure fair to both the high rollers and the pleb or crayfish gamblers, as winning and losing is simply algorithmed and not hand picked by those who run the casino, if winners were handpicked by the management of the casino, then it would have been safe to accuse or say that casinos are picking only the high rollers as winners in a game where both high rollers and crayfish gamblers are playing which will be absolutely unfair.

Yeah I get what youre saying, casinos will always want to keep high rollers around since thats where the big money really comes from, they use different tactics like giving out special comps, free rooms, bonuses and even personal managers just to make sure those players feel valued and keep pouring money into the games, but at the core the wins and losses are still coming from the programmed system and not from someone deciding behind the scenes who should win, that means no matter if youre a small casual player betting little or a high roller betting thousands the actual chances of winning or losing are still the same, the only difference is the scale of money involved, a small player might lose twenty bucks and walk away while a high roller might lose thousands in the same time frame, and that makes it seem like the casino favors one over the other when in reality its just the stakes that create that impression, if the casino really handpicked winners then people would easily catch on and it would destroy their credibility, so they rely on the algorithm to keep everything looking fair, but fair or not the edge is still with the casino and in the long run both the big and small gamblers are exposed to the same risk, its just that the high rollers usually stand out more because of how much they put on the line.

[Peanutswar]

Do casinos specifically target vulnerable gamblers? When I say vulnerable gamblers, I mean those who tend to gamble a lot and usually loses more. Casinos surely have the statistics for this and they can identify which users might be more vulnerable. My question is do they take advantage of this and show them promos that will make them want to gamble more? Are they more persistent towards these users? Or do they just give everyone the same kind of promo and treat everyone the same no matter what?

And if casinos really do treat vulnerable gamblers more, is it ethical?

Casino is just providing the games to the players at all, now its up to the player if they will continuously play, I see that perspective more often but after trying to extend my knowledge about this the casino also have the strategy too, they make a lot of promos, and bonuses to the player that they will make more stay with the casino to play, which gives a lot of more convenience to the players. In the physical casino they are offering such as drinks, and also the accessibility of the slot machines, in the online platform they offer free spins and free bets so people feel that the casino really care to them. Now if you are easily distracted person and have a low self consciousness and awareness to yourself probably you will get caught with this traps to stay.

[Agbe]

Do casinos specifically target vulnerable gamblers? When I say vulnerable gamblers, I mean those who tend to gamble a lot and usually loses more. Casinos surely have the statistics for this and they can identify which users might be more vulnerable. My question is do they take advantage of this and show them promos that will make them want to gamble more? Are they more persistent towards these users? Or do they just give everyone the same kind of promo and treat everyone the same no matter what?

And if casinos really do treat vulnerable gamblers more, is it ethical?

Casino is just providing the games to the players at all, now its up to the player if they will continuously play, I see that perspective more often but after trying to extend my knowledge about this the casino also have the strategy too, they make a lot of promos, and bonuses to the player that they will make more stay with the casino to play, which gives a lot of more convenience to the players. In the physical casino they are offering such as drinks, and also the accessibility of the slot machines, in the online platform they offer free spins and free bets so people feel that the casino really care to them. Now if you are easily distracted person and have a low self consciousness and awareness to yourself probably you will get caught with this traps to stay.

You're right it's up to the gambler if he or she will continuesly gamble or not because that is the deciding factor when it comes to gambling your ability to stay self discipline and not exposing yourself to excessive gambling so I do think that casinos are actually targeting a specific group of people who they feel is vulnerable to gambling addiction

[AmaGold70]

Do casinos specifically target vulnerable gamblers? When I say vulnerable gamblers, I mean those who tend to gamble a lot and usually loses more. Casinos surely have the statistics for this and they can identify which users might be more vulnerable. My question is do they take advantage of this and show them promos that will make them want to gamble more? Are they more persistent towards these users? Or do they just give everyone the same kind of promo and treat everyone the same no matter what?

And if casinos really do treat vulnerable gamblers more, is it ethical?

I believe casinos give their promos based on the activity of the gambler on their site and that doesn't necessarily mean that they are targeting the gambler with promos just to keep them glued to their site, every gambler are treated the same way regardless of their performance. Personally I've received promos from casinos for being consistent in the casino site even though I don't really gamble with huge amount and I don't always lose my money, everyone is treated equally and I think giving promos to gamblers that are playing consistently and losing is just a way of compensating them once in a while for losing more money on the site.

[rachael9385]

i believe that casinos analyze the gambling habits of their members. for example, i think that they do not throw a promotion, an offer to a person at a random time. for example, if someone who receives his salary on the 1st of the month gambles with some of this money that week, they may be making the best offers at this time of each month. so they may know who has the money to gamble when, when they tend to gamble.

i think they also know and analyze what kind of strategy someone who gambles follows, whether they are aggressive or calm. in the end, they need to act according to everyone's playing habits in order to make the most profit.

The organizers of these games are humans so it's easy for them to know how others think and ways that they can be lured into gambling. For majority of gamblers it's true promotions. Sometimes casinos send out messages to their big stakers probably when they are inactive for a while, the text contains exciting bonus offers that might be hard for some people to resist, it's no doubt that they have a targeted audience

[Fredomago]

I think they target all gamblers. Bonus offers aren't usually targeted at a specific audience. Except when the casino works with different levels of gamblers, in which case the offers are specific to that level. Those who gamble more can't be considered "vulnerable," but rather those with greater financial power, and the casino will certainly do everything it can to keep these gamblers spending with them, offering a range of perks.

Yeah, I agree with that. Small or big, that's still profit for them. Everything is about making money, so they don't need to pick those high rollers just to look unfair. It is unfair, especially in slot and casino games, so they don't really have to target anyone to win. It is natural because of the house edge, so even if a person bets 1 million and the other $1, both will probably lose in the long run.

I've seen high rollers win very big amounts with a high stake on the line, and their names keep popping out almost every 2 days. It just means there is no such thing as a targeted player.

Yeah right, everything is about the money that casino will be able to bank out against the gamblers, they don't need to target any specific gamblers as the design of this business is to earn and generates profits, whoever will the gamer in the long run if they don't have that experienced to limit their sessions, they'll be ended up losing.

Though for those wise gamers who can control and manage their finances and time spent to the house, chances to win is also possible. A matter of good timing when winning and cashing out profits that earned.

[LastKiss]

i believe that casinos analyze the gambling habits of their members. for example, i think that they do not throw a promotion, an offer to a person at a random time. for example, if someone who receives his salary on the 1st of the month gambles with some of this money that week, they may be making the best offers at this time of each month. so they may know who has the money to gamble when, when they tend to gamble.

i think they also know and analyze what kind of strategy someone who gambles follows, whether they are aggressive or calm. in the end, they need to act according to everyone's playing habits in order to make the most profit.

The organizers of these games are humans so it's easy for them to know how others think and ways that they can be lured into gambling. For majority of gamblers it's true promotions. Sometimes casinos send out messages to their big stakers probably when they are inactive for a while, the text contains exciting bonus offers that might be hard for some people to resist, it's no doubt that they have a targeted audience

It's not just about promotions. Casinos can also let players who have been losing a lot experience some wins. This gives them the false hope that they're close to breaking even, which keeps them playing. In the end, though, they usually lose more. Combined with strategic promotions, this approach keeps gamblers addicted and makes the casino more sustainable, instead of constantly relying on offering new deals.

[l3pox]

I don't agree that casinos actually targets some specific sets of people casino's musk like any other business is just targeting all set of people to patronize them irrespective of game region or even those vulnerable to gambling addiction because everyone who is gambling should be above +18 at that age it's expected that you have a good sense of judgement so if anyone is falling prey to gambling activities it's not caused by any casino because casinos will always promote their business

imagine the situation
board meeting of a big online casino
the CEO says "we have to raise our LTV per client, how can we do it?"
CMO says "let's take our biggest LTV clients and target them on our ads"

done

who do you think are the biggest LTV clients of gambling companies?

[LUCKMCFLY]

I don't think casinos are specifically for vulnerable people, Casinos are designed so that any vulnerable person, whether poor or rich, can go and have fun The problem is that poorer people, when it comes to this and who don't have the knowledge, tend to think about the lucky breaks and winning a lot of money, but that's not the case. It seems to me that the casino industry is a business and that it's aimed at all types of adults.

[mikel_012]

I don't agree that casinos actually targets some specific sets of people casino's musk like any other business is just targeting all set of people to patronize them irrespective of game region or even those vulnerable to gambling addiction because everyone who is gambling should be above +18 at that age it's expected that you have a good sense of judgement so if anyone is falling prey to gambling activities it's not caused by any casino because casinos will always promote their business

imagine the situation
board meeting of a big online casino
the CEO says "we have to raise our LTV per client, how can we do it?"
CMO says "let's take our biggest LTV clients and target them on our ads"

done

who do you think are the biggest LTV clients of gambling companies?

What is LTV here?

I think it makes all sense to target whales that spend the most money, just like Rolex is advertising on F1 and other sports events that are more common among richier people. You don't see Rolex advertising on a TV show about how to save money, because it makes no sense to try to capture this kind of people who will not use the product.

[danherbias07]

I think the implementation of this rule has become standard practice. Self-control is also influenced by age. The older a person is, the more mature their self-control should be. But I have my doubts, because this requirement can be circumvented by underage users. They use fake identities.

Furthermore, I think all casinos won’t think that far ahead. Considering whether they are addicted or not. Casinos only provide facilities and requirements to meet licensing requirements. They will continue to focus on providing gambling entertainment. So I think casinos will keep thinking about how to attract more visitors and make a profit.

And not about gambling addiction or vulnerable players.

I don't believe they are targeting a certain gambler when they decided to start their business. It's the same with everyone else. If a gambler placed a bet for a certain team with a x1.6 multiplier in sports betting, the online bookie cannot tell if he will win or not. So how come they are able to control it and target someone else if they don't even know the results?
I think this is just a conspiracy theory, especially with movies showing that these things happen. For me, it's a system that only works in an online casino, not in sports betting.

[Hispo]

I don't think casinos are specifically for vulnerable people, Casinos are designed so that any vulnerable person, whether poor or rich, can go and have fun The problem is that poorer people, when it comes to this and who don't have the knowledge, tend to think about the lucky breaks and winning a lot of money, but that's not the case. It seems to me that the casino industry is a business and that it's aimed at all types of adults.

It is aimed towards all kinds of adults who are willingly to throw some money for the sake of thrill, however I believe this thread is rather about some casinos which use some questionable practices in order to increase their volume and keep as many players hooked to their services as possible, though.
You may not heard about those practices because they are more common in brick and mortar casinos, and you frequent online casinos.
Anyways, in the end, it is within the power of each one of us as gamblers to decide when to walk away from the gambling floor or log out our sessions.

[rachael9385]

Do casinos specifically target vulnerable gamblers? When I say vulnerable gamblers, I mean those who tend to gamble a lot and usually loses more.

This is a more reason they have created casino games that will captivate the minds of the gamblers to keep gambling at the expense of them loosing a lot of funds, it doesn't seem like  that's what they've programed to achieve but it's a clear picture that vulnerable gamblers will always arise and the casino would get profits from this means but they don't actually use it as an advantage.

Casino gambling was created to make profit and not to benefit the gamblers, any win gotten by a gambler is a mistake or you can call it luck, the system was designed to get people hooked and take their money. Like you said, vulnerable gamblers will always arise, this is as a result of their greed and indiscipline. Vulnerable gamblers are those that get addicted or dependent on gambling. These are the casinos targets

[Josefjix]

I don't think casinos are specifically for vulnerable people, Casinos are designed so that any vulnerable person, whether poor or rich, can go and have fun The problem is that poorer people, when it comes to this and who don't have the knowledge, tend to think about the lucky breaks and winning a lot of money, but that's not the case. It seems to me that the casino industry is a business and that it's aimed at all types of adults.

It is aimed towards all kinds of adults who are willingly to throw some money for the sake of thrill, however I believe this thread is rather about some casinos which use some questionable practices in order to increase their volume and keep as many players hooked to their services as possible, though.
You may not heard about those practices because they are more common in brick and mortar casinos, and you frequent online casinos.
Anyways, in the end, it is within the power of each one of us as gamblers to decide when to walk away from the gambling floor or log out our sessions.

Gambling platforms uses the principles of psychology to target the vulnerable ones and those that can't fight the addictive traits he has as a habit, casino platform knew exactly that, every addicts are present in anything that rewards pleasure, quick profit aimers, and many other things.

It's not the power of the addict to take himself out of gambling trap, he might try to get out of the mess but it may not seems to be possible, there he needs external support to help out.