The Slot Machine money Glitch

[o48o]

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But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

Short life span? Are you implying that casinos would took them out or something? Because that would be wild accusation. Or do you just mean that bug would get caught sooner?

And what regulations have changed, or how would tracking make this more prosecutable event? Because i don't see much logic in that. It wasn't the lack of tracking that didn't get them to walk free. It was this ruling:

Having affirmed that the video poker machines failed to constitute protected computers and that the Defendants actions failed to constitute exceeding authorized access, the Court concluded that the Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss charges under Title 18 U.S.C. § 1030(a)(4) should be granted.

[Accardo]

The case being dismissed by the court didn’t really mean that the players didn’t exploit the system, they simply dismissed the case prolly because the casino couldn’t provide them with enough evidence for them to really believe that the system was exploited and that’s why those users got away with this case.

Assuming this was a case of hack or the system being compromised by the user in other for them to exploit it then I’m sure they would have received a more severe response but since it wasn’t anything of such, they simply just saw something they thought would make them more money and tried it out and it worked for them.

The house is famous for clapping back on gamers who win so much, but players don't get a chance to sue the casino for losing due to glitches. However, the two players are quite lucky and should lay low if they are guilty of the accusation, because the investigation will still be ongoing. But, since the house has no evidence, then the fault is from the house.

[Pi-network314159]

In relation to the topic that I open here, If You Knew a Game Was Rigged, will you continue to play and exploit the system?. There is another very interesting case that fall under this topic.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

i dont think the two will face any consequences or trial, provided they didn't cheat. they hit the bottom as they ought to without cheating the casino with any form of hacking tool. they just gambled fairly as was designed by the machine. but it was just unfortunate that the glitch on the machine made the casino lose a lot of money but not the fault of the gamblers. the only thing that made the security agent come close to the scene was because the incident has happened 5 consecutive times making it look suspicious , however those guys are innocent and this makes the case a dead one.

[justinlamode]

The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

If the court found no wrong doing in their action, what consequences are you talking about that awaits them when you already said they disappeared to enjoy their wealth? They saw opportunity and used it very well to help their finances, in gambling one side must win and that is what happened here. It's just unfortunate that their strategy which gave them opportunity to win is now seen as a flaw in the machine, if there were no flaw, there will be no winner, so they have done nothing wrong.

[Z-tight]

That is a very interesting story, especially when you watch the 15 minute video that explains everything. There was no crime committed, these two men didn't tamper with the machine, didn't install any malware; they were just pressing buttons. I would have be mad if the court had ruled against them, of course the case ought to be dropped as it was.

It is the job of the casino and the providers to ensure their machines are flawless and designed to make people lose, yeah, you heard me. Losing too much is fine, winning too much isn't, lol.

[mcdouglasx]

I suppose the consequences are that these people are banned for life from casinos, just like card counters. Once it's discovered they've taken advantage of the system, it's the end of their gambling career.

These cases really shouldn't be dismissed; for obvious reasons, it's clearly a scam. The fact that users have intentionally taken advantage of the system is the part that should be prosecuted.

Imagine if the error, instead of favoring them, prevented them from winning? Surely that casino would collapse with fines and charges, so I think those laws should be reviewed.

[crwth]

In a way, the game provider should be able to do something about it because it's their game that had problems, and as long as they are not doing anything to the software, I think it's okay, and the result of it was somewhat favorable IMO.

Are there any more details about the type of glitch that was done? I'm curious if it's just a software issue or something else.

[Doan9269]

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people.

What if they were unable to apprehend the two of them or even none, scam cannot be regulated and the ones they see happens in gambling is far small compared to the scam that is happening around the world on every circles,  i don't support for scam and don't expect that people should still have that kind of conscience in doing it over any opportunity they have seen, only if they had placed their own self in the same shoe, things may not have happened this manner, at the end, they use the stolen fund on useless pleasures that only last a moment.

[bangjoe]

But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

Imagine how these guys find a flaw on a slot machine. If they didnt do any sort of cheating but just discovered something that through their advantage. Is that still considered a violation? Someone concern probably reported it instead but ofcourse they think its a chance for them to earn more on gambling, they didnt have mistakes maybe the only oen they did is become so greedy.

Taking too much makes them lose profit that has the potential to be long -term because they have knowledge of gaping or lack of slots without violations.

He might vent his mistakes because the players usually lose than win, and that day they found the light of life, only greed closes all the ways to get it again.

They are less clever after having a shortcut to win.

[Fortify]

In relation to the topic that I open here, If You Knew a Game Was Rigged, will you continue to play and exploit the system?. There is another very interesting case that fall under this topic.

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people. The complete story is here:

The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.

But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

The silliest part of the story is the gambler sticking around for such a long time and getting greedy - but maybe that's just the nature of someone who stumbled across this glitch by accident. If he had taken 3 jackpots and decided to scram, it might just like a freak chain of events that will occasionally happen in a casino. The fact that they stick around for 5 jackpots is just bound to set off alarm bells in these heavily monitored buildings. If this person was actually clever, they would have kept this exploit low key and could have milked it for months or even years. Ideally going to different casinos and making it less obvious. It's nice to see a casino gambler get an advantage over the casino because it's so often the other direction.

[₿itcoin]

It was, that two people found a glitch in a slot machine and won a lot of money. But the Nevada Gaming and Feds investigated it and they sue this two people. The complete story is here:  Youtube

The case against them was thrown out because it was not proven that they cheated, they didn't hacked or tampered the machine. It was played as designed, this individuals push the button was part of the machines native interface. No law prohibited a player from switching games increasing a bet or pressing double-up the machine was flawed.
But I guess their is still the consequences for this two individuals as they have disappeared and stay quiet.

If both of them use the machine as it is meant for, pressing the legal button and using the glitch for their advantage, I can't say they are hackers at any way. They were clever gamblers using analysis and logic not illegal activities. The judge dismissed the CFAA charges because electronic poker machines are not "secure computers" and they didn't bypass the authorized system. Disappearing afterwards is understandable because they won a lot of cash but went through many legal problems. So yeah if the system is obvious and easily visible gambling might be clever ,but the gambling dens will chase you down if you earn too much using the glitch.

[lionheart78]

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But if today, by chance someone has discovered this kind of flaw in a slot machine and took advantage of it? they might have s short life span as what you have said, tracking is very different and maybe to the extend of following us outside of the casino. In any case this two change some rules in the book as exploits know are considered manipulation and they can prosecute anyone with that mandate.

Short life span? Are you implying that casinos would took them out or something? Because that would be wild accusation. Or do you just mean that bug would get caught sooner?

People who don't want to be taken advantage with especially when it comes to money can do anything to take revenge illegally if they fail to do it legally.  In the given case there are many possibilities why the people involved in the slot machine glitch went silent. We can speculate, and one of the possible speculations is that they were silenced.  Just like what happened in the Philippines where several "sabongero" or cockfighters went missing due to possible game fixing or internal conflict, possibly betrayal, where the suspected perpetrators feel they were swindled by these cockfighters.

Hopefully, it is that these two people involved in the slot machine glitch just wanted to have peace and just avoid any spotlights anymore.

[Peanutswar]

If this case was on the management not having a testing of their units before releasing to the end user it becomes their mistake and not with the player, and for those users who will abuse the system possible will get investigation with the fair square and not just having an accusation but for sure who don't want to make a money with the casino most of the player right there is just to came to the casino just to enjoy and earn some profit so possibly they see that as a loop hole to the game.

[len01]

If the slot machine was indeed defective, then the gambler shouldn't be punished, because it's clearly the casino's fault. But what makes me curious is whether he was just lucky to get such a big win and ultimately win the argument. Usually, casinos will always try to claim that the gambler is at fault, but this time it really seems like pure luck.

Anyway, this story reminds me of when I was very young, playing slot machines and discovering a small hole that led to the machine's money storage. I kept getting a lot of money by taking it from that little hole. But I think that was just teenage mischief.

[cryptoaddictchie]

They kept the wins mate, so all cases are dismissed, they won and that's all that matters, if the casino still think they did something wrong maybe they should upgrade their machine? A glitch that can't be found is no glitch to me but if they think otherwise they can fix it. I am guessing the money won is too big for the casino that's why they feel hurt, they believe those guys cheated and they can't prove it, this is why I hate some casinos, when you win big it becomes a problem.

Yeah those guys are not proven cheated so theres no reason for the casino to drag it longer, if theres actually some glitch a trick found by these users means they literally dont need to explain themselves. Is it morally good? Probably not, but this is business we dont know if they doing tricky to their users too. Ofcourse there is since casino designed to somehow profits. If the other one seems to see some tricks for them well its not their fault.

[Ultegra134]

I suppose the consequences are that these people are banned for life from casinos, just like card counters. Once it's discovered they've taken advantage of the system, it's the end of their gambling career.

These cases really shouldn't be dismissed; for obvious reasons, it's clearly a scam. The fact that users have intentionally taken advantage of the system is the part that should be prosecuted.

Imagine if the error, instead of favoring them, prevented them from winning? Surely that casino would collapse with fines and charges, so I think those laws should be reviewed.

That's a small price to pay if you've made a great sum of money. On top of that, they could perhaps evade this ban, by going further away from where the incident happened. I saw the complete video, and it was clearly a bug of the software of slots, on the one hand, I understand what you're saying, but on the other hand, as another user also said earlier, if the cards were reversed, would the casino announce it? Certainly not, and the no one would even bother to review the casino. These users weren't using any devices, or tamper with the device, thus, it didn't appear that they were doing anything, which is why they couldn't prosecute them.

[nara1892]

Consequences? How could a game played without any cheating result in them being punished? I believe this case was entirely the casino's fault, negligently managing its system, which ultimately led to a system error and allowed the gamblers, particularly the two individuals, to win the jackpot. It's understandable that the two individuals weren't punished, as there was no evidence to identify them as being at fault.
Furthermore, as you mentioned, the punishment was overturned, meaning the two gamblers were innocent and the matter resolved. This serves as a lesson for the casino to better manage its site.

[Josefjix]

If I knew a game was rigged, I’d be careful before continuing to play. Exploiting a glitch might bring wins, but it can also bring trouble.In this case, two people used a slot machine flaw without cheating, and the court cleared them. Still, they disappeared, probably to avoid problems.

It's such an intelligent exploit because they do not destroy the slot machines nor hack into it, they only discover the glitch and make use of the opportunity, after all, they pass through the procedure of playing slot games but the difference was a glitch.

Even if there is a glitch in the game, exploiting it carries risks and might not be worth it in the end.

These guys were lucky to get a lawyer that could explain everything to the court that they are on the right track, most of the things we do are basically against the law from normal human understanding, lawyer makes it look right.

[bhadz]

If they have been put into court and got into trial and dismissed, it means that they're clear. They have no problem with that but the negligence of the casino is the reason why it happened. Usually, this is what will happen when a casino can't accept defeat and they thought that they've been cheated out by their players. But if the player has been cheated by them, online or physical one, it will be an easy verdict and the balance that they have won't be distributed anymore. Plus they get a ban and removable of access to them.

The case being dismissed by the court didn’t really mean that the players didn’t exploit the system, they simply dismissed the case prolly because the casino couldn’t provide them with enough evidence for them to really believe that the system was exploited and that’s why those users got away with this case.

Assuming this was a case of hack or the system being compromised by the user in other for them to exploit it then I’m sure they would have received a more severe response but since it wasn’t anything of such, they simply just saw something they thought would make them more money and tried it out and it worked for them.

While that is true, it still shows that they're not at fault with that. Looking on who's fault really is what the trial went through and they're not at fault with that. But the next time that they will be caught into that situation, they're for sure won't be able to escape from any trial's verdict anymore. Because getting involved with a glitch for the second time around will speak on how guilty they are and it's no longer a natural thing that's caused by any error and negligence from the casino.

[lionheart78]

While that is true, it still shows that they're not at fault with that. Looking on who's fault really is what the trial went through and they're not at fault with that. But the next time that they will be caught into that situation, they're for sure won't be able to escape from any trial's verdict anymore. Because getting involved with a glitch for the second time around will speak on how guilty they are and it's no longer a natural thing that's caused by any error and negligence from the casino.

I looked up at the law in Nevada before the incident happen and there is no clear law about exploiting glitches, there are laws about tampering the machine and manipulating it but there is no clear prohibition about exploiting glitches during those time.  This is also the reason why the two exploiter were cleared of any cases filed against them.

Right after the incident it is when the regulator board patches their regulatory law about manipulating machines and adds the prohibition of exploiting glitches and program bugs or continuously using the buggy machine without reporting it to gain advantage, which is considered a criminal offense.  So if anyone is planning to take advantage of this program's glitches or machine errors then it is not wise to do so since it is now considered a criminal offense.