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August 04, 2025, 08:58:02 PM
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For those who still think sports betting is just pure luck, let’s try looking at it from a different angle. This topic has been talked about many times, but I want this discussion to be between people who actually bet on sports in real life, not those who only play slots or other casino games that are 100% luck-based and then claim it’s all the same thing.

To give a bit of proof that sports betting can be skill-driven, here are some names of people who’ve built real success out of it. You can search their stories if you’re interested because it’s too long to put everything here:

1. Billy Walters
2. Zeljko Ranogajec
3. Tony Bloom
4. Matthew Benham
5. Haralabos Voulgaris

these guys show that sports betting isn’t just about luck, it’s about strategy, analysis, and finding an edge. If it were only luck, they wouldn’t have been able to make consistent profits over the years.


Your chances of winning in sports betting is increased when you are the type of bettor that analyzes before placing a bet. Although sports betting is a hundred percent based on skills because there are times when you to get lucky. No matter how skilled you are I don't think it's possible be successful with it, the people listed were able to get their financial freedom through betting and you are sure of that information?

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August 04, 2025, 09:40:41 PM
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Sports betting is far from being just a game of chance. It requires a deep understanding of the sport, data analysis, bankroll management, and long-term strategy to be profitable. Like any other skill-based activity, those who put in the work tend to perform better over time.
What I think its hybrid, since it can be a game of chance and also need some skills.
I can say that somehow its game of chance since bettor can bet randomly on sports they like to place their bets even if they don't know anything about it and wait for luck to come then see if they win.
Then it became for skilled individual if they do certain like analyzing the game and do more deeper research to help them to know which is team is statistically better then have huge chance to win.
So overall everything will depends on your approach on sports betting since your chances to win will matter on the activities you've done before you place your bets.

But the implication that betting on sports surely becomes a game of skill with a little bit of analysis is very deceiving. You know, Online sites have vig and imbalance baked in so that around 95 percent of all participants will end up losing in the long run. Yeah only 3-5 percent of bettors are profitable on a consistent basis, if they play disciplined, and follow information-based styles of play. Even to grind out 4-7 percent ROI, you would require demonstrated predictive advantage, ruthless bankroll management, and massive volume. But random selection or even amateurish hypothesis-testing will strip you to the bone. So yeah, the approach is important, but unless you can beat the book, you're practically betting against house, and it's not anything smart.

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August 04, 2025, 09:56:17 PM
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Experienced gamblers know the difference between sports betting and others. This means that the odds couldn't determine who was going to win. It was created to give an idea of where to bet but not an assurance of winning. However, even though we acknowledge that this is about analysis and other factors, why do so many still lose, despite being experienced sports bettors? That raises my suspicion that it's not purely all about skills, we also need some luck to win.


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August 04, 2025, 10:01:25 PM
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However, even though we acknowledge that this is about analysis and other factors, why do so many still lose, despite being experienced sports bettors? That raises my suspicion that it's not purely all about skills, we also need some luck to win.
Someone concluded that it's all about skill based game and he's right on that. But with that suspicion of yours also gives you an idea that it couldn't just be all about skills.
You're right with that as well because if you're going to take a look at many of these sportsbettor that have made their decisions to go full time.
One thing you'd noticed on them is on how consistent they are and even with good analysis, they're also losing some of those bets. So, they might also be asking for some luck to come them if ever they need to have it. Who doesn't want to be lucky when it's all going to win most of our bets.
And so I agree that somehow, there is a need for each of us to have some luck whenever we bet for the sports we like.


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August 04, 2025, 10:11:40 PM
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Yes Sport betting is based on your skill and that skill is knowing about the sport, teams, the players, head to head.   But to me sport betting is based on skill to play it well but it is not based on skills to consistently win. You can know all the sport betting skills but on game day tragedy pull through. Right now even sport betting site give a compilation of high placed bet, that should tell you that they know sport betting is more based on chance than skill based.

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August 04, 2025, 10:38:31 PM
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I think maybe more based on experience than skill but I am with you. Having knowledge and skill in a game allows you to see potential matchup mismatches and understand how one team is going to take advantage of another. This can be useful when gambling as it can allow you to see angles that others don’t.

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August 04, 2025, 10:58:41 PM
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Sports betting is far from being just a game of chance. It requires a deep understanding of the sport, data analysis, bankroll management, and long-term strategy to be profitable. Like any other skill-based activity, those who put in the work tend to perform better over time.

What I think its hybrid, since it can be a game of chance and also need some skills.

I also think that sports betting is a hybrid of luck and skill.  The reason behind this is that although in sports betting skill increases the chance of winning of a gambler, there are still unknown factors that can affect the result of the game.

For example, in a sport where players get injured during the game, the key players do not perform well, and so on.  These factors greatly affect the game result, which is the random factor that greatly affects the result of a game.


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August 04, 2025, 11:16:54 PM
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While sports in itself is skill based, betting on sports is a different ball game. I still maintain that gambling in itself generally is dependent on luck, whether it's slot or sports. Athletes may put in their best to win but results don't always turn out as planned. We get to find under dogs or minors take the shine off favourites, isn't it? That's the luck thing.
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August 05, 2025, 02:09:02 AM
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I think maybe more based on experience than skill but I am with you. Having knowledge and skill in a game allows you to see potential matchup mismatches and understand how one team is going to take advantage of another. This can be useful when gambling as it can allow you to see angles that others don’t.
In anything that you are doing, you will noticed that experience is better than knowledge. It is also happening in skill based because if you first start to do a skill, you can not be better than when you have been doing the skills for days, weeks or years. It is true that sport betting is skilled based.

But we should not let it deceives us while betting because the betting sites know the odds needed to make almost all their customers to be losing in long term. Because it is skilled, that does not mean you will make money from it in long term.

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August 05, 2025, 03:10:25 AM
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Those players are among luckiest people in sports betting.

I'm not someone who think "if they can, we also can, because we're the same creature" it's not, different person has different ability, luck, talent etc, so just because someone can, you can't draw conclusion if something is related to skill instead of luck.

If they're able to win consistently in betting, then it's good. But, for me it's not really a skilled base game since I've tried it by myself.

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1. Billy Walters
2. Zeljko Ranogajec
3. Tony Bloom
4. Matthew Benham
5. Haralabos Voulgaris

these guys show that sports betting isn’t just about luck, it’s about strategy, analysis, and finding an edge. If it were only luck, they wouldn’t have been able to make consistent profits over the years.

These are few people that you claim have won very big amounts in sports bet, I am sure that there are many others hat are not on this list but I will let you know that they didn't win all because of their strategies, they won because they were also lucky. Consider many millions of people that knows how to analyze and are losing very big in sports bet, it's not that people in the list above are better analysts than them. Athletes in sports bets are human beings that can have bad days and make mistakes so their past performances are not guarantees that they must live up to expectations everytime. Analysis helps to increase our chances of winning but we all need that element of luck to win, remember that a person that don't know how to analyze can also win big if they are lucky.

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August 05, 2025, 04:29:52 PM
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While sports in itself is skill based, betting on sports is a different ball game. I still maintain that gambling in itself generally is dependent on luck, whether it's slot or sports. Athletes may put in their best to win but results don't always turn out as planned. We get to find under dogs or minors take the shine off favourites, isn't it? That's the luck thing.

That's exactly what I think, and I think it makes perfect sense, and it's been proven. It's not uncommon to see much stronger favorite teams lose to weaker teams. This even happens when the favored team is playing at home. It's truly embarrassing, and many gamblers have certainly lost, as most gamblers would bet on the stronger team. But that's normal, and that's how luck works for everyone.

This clearly means that sports betting isn't just about skill; it's just one of several contributing factors to winning. Sports betting is a game that combines skill and luck to produce wins.

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August 06, 2025, 09:23:04 PM
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~~~, the people listed were able to get their financial freedom through betting and you are sure of that information?
That was listed online, so I’m pretty sure it’s not fake, and we can verify it if needed. The point is, it shows that being a successful sports bettor is possible, even though many think it’s impossible and treat sports betting like casino games that are purely luck-based. If we actually take time to read and learn, we’d know the truth. It’s better not to judge right away, do some research first before making conclusions.

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August 16, 2025, 11:26:27 PM
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This clearly means that sports betting isn't just about skill; it's just one of several contributing factors to winning. Sports betting is a game that combines skill and luck to produce wins.

I wouldn't call luck in sporting events that, I would define them as extraordinary events that are very possible if certain conditions are met that we cannot calculate precisely, For me sports bets are made based on the wisdom of the person who has knowledge of the sport , because that is the only thing that is measured Sometimes when you have a lot of knowledge and above all security, when the opposite happens, it is usually thought that it is luck , or bad luck for others.

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August 20, 2025, 08:56:30 AM
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Sports betting is purely a base luck game. But that doesn't mean that you wouldn't do your own research and analyze before betting. Because this has been the major challenges most gamblers are surfering today in gambling because they always have this feeling that luck would help them get a win easily in gambling. However, it's very essential for us to always do the needful things first before depending slowly on luck because it is only when you help yourself that luck would easily help you when gambling.

For real? I think you are trying you mix it up. I read the first outlined statement and then the last place you said do the needful and rely on luck slowly, which correctly interprets that the ability to do research, have skill in making good analysis actually makes it possible to win too more in betting. You can not compare sports betting to crash game which is purely reliant on luck. If you handle sports like that, then you will lose more than some one that knows how to do prediction very well.

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