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August 03, 2025, 05:02:48 PM
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October 7, - cause and effect

     On October 7, 2023, Israel was subjected to a terrorist attack by Palestinians from Gaza, who, it must be said frankly, took advantage of the arrogance of Israeli border guards during the holidays, killed 1,200 people and took 242 hostages to Gaza. So, once again a war began again, which in duration exceeded 5 months and, despite the incomparable military superiority of Israel, continues to this day, claiming the lives of both Palestinians and Israelis.

    The United States and the EU, on the one hand, condemned the actions of Palestinian terrorists and believe that Israel has the right to punish the Palestinians, but at the same time they call on Israel to be more careful when dropping multi-ton bombs on Gaza, which has the largest population density in the world. Frankly, it’s amazing how a pilot dropping a bomb from a height can distinguish a terrorist from an ordinary citizen. After all, the Palestinians do not have a regular army with tanks, guns and planes. In general, judging by the scale of the destroyed buildings, they were all inhabited by terrorists, and it should be noted that this is closer to the truth. It is difficult to imagine that their residents would not wish the Israelis dead, given the conditions of their powerless existence under apartheid and the number of deaths from rockets, bombs and shells. I will not be wrong if I say that every Palestinian is a potential terrorist, including women.

      You don’t have to be particularly perspicacious not to understand why from the very first day of the formation of Israel in Palestine there has been a war between Jews and Arabs, and why martial law was introduced in Israel, which has not yet been lifted. The point is the demographic situation that arose immediately with the organization of the state for Jews. Israel cannot be a Jewish state if the majority of its citizens are Arabs. Therefore, expelled Palestinians emerged and became refugees scattered throughout the surrounding Arab countries. The remaining part of the Arab population of the former Palestine received Israeli citizenship, while most of the Palestinians were isolated in the autonomy, the territory of which, like shagreen leather, is shrinking from year to year.

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    As a result of Israel's expansionist policy, the territory of the Palestinian Authority differs sharply from the territory of the Palestinian state, provided for by the well-known UN decision to create two states in place of Palestine for two peoples - Jewish and Arab. The Israeli government ignored the UN decision and found a solution to the problem by building a concrete wall around the occupied territory, which is more like a huge prison without a roof. The population of the autonomy is deprived of the civil rights inherent in citizens of the state and is a supplier of cheap labor. Isolating Palestinians in a concrete sack is very similar to the action of a state pursuing an apartheid policy. It would be another matter if the construction of this wall reflected a mutual agreement on the state border between Jews and Palestinians, but, unfortunately, there is no such agreement, and the location of the wall only secures the annexed territories for Israel, emphasizing aggressive intentions towards the Arabs, and most importantly, the wall acquires the meaning of another, additionally created, obstacle on the path to peace.

  In modern times, due to the war, Israel is experiencing serious problems in the field of construction, which has completely stopped, and in the declining production of agricultural products, the prices of which have increased by 50%. Israeli businessmen, accustomed to dealing with Palestinians from the autonomy, are not ready to pay much higher salaries to workers invited from abroad. Continuation of the war could lead to a catastrophic state of the economy.

As I wrote earlier (1), the blame for the fact that there is a permanent war going on in the former Palestine lies entirely with the UN, which was obliged to foresee the confrontation that had occurred and first send troops to the stipulated border of the division of Palestine in accordance with the map.

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       The attack by Palestinian terrorists on October 7, which initiated military action, also initiated an appeal by the world community to the cause of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Many Western politicians, including Biden, suddenly remembered a state for the Palestinians and began to speak out about its creation as the only way to end this half-century-old conflict. This circumstance leads to a very unpleasant conclusion, namely, if not for the Hamas terrorists, then no one would have mentioned the forgotten state for the Palestinians, although everyone had long known how to stop the bloodshed between Jews and Arabs, but remained silent so as not to irritate... .

     By the way, a few words about terrorists. The fact is that partisans also engage in terror; moreover, any war cannot do without mass terror, as a result of which civilians die. There is the same difference between terrorists and partisans as there is between spies and intelligence officers. (2.3)

 

   1. The UN's fatal mistake. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/106403.html

2. International terrorism and its stakeholders. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/1904.html

3. Terrorists or partisans? https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/105826.html

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August 04, 2025, 08:49:04 PM
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October 7, - cause and effect

     On October 7, 2023, Israel was subjected to a terrorist attack by Palestinians hamas extremists from Gaza,

fixed that for you..
its not new but very apparent that narratives always try to mix up the words hamas with palestinians

the war in the region is not where isreal want to genocide all palestinians. isreal want to get rid of hamas and all extremisms where the extremists are shouting "death to isreal"

   The United States and the EU, on the one hand, condemned the actions of Palestinian terrorists and believe that Israel has the right to punish the Palestinians, but at the same time they call on Israel to be more careful when dropping multi-ton bombs on Gaza, which has the largest population density in the world. Frankly, it’s amazing how a pilot dropping a bomb from a height can distinguish a terrorist from an ordinary citizen.

hamas wear all black with a green bandana when they are officially on duty.. but yes most are cowards and hiding in civilian clothes amongst the civilians .. which is where isreal send alerts and warnings to give civilians a change/option to escape the area. knowing the hamas troops are on mission to hold out at a particular area(those obedient enough to stay on mission).

      You don’t have to be particularly perspicacious not to understand why from the very first day of the formation of Israel in Palestine there has been a war between Jews and Arabs, and why martial law was introduced in Israel, which has not yet been lifted. The point is the demographic situation that arose immediately with the organization of the state for Jews. Israel cannot be a Jewish state if the majority of its citizens are Arabs. Therefore, expelled Palestinians emerged and became refugees scattered throughout the surrounding Arab countries. The remaining part of the Arab population of the former Palestine received Israeli citizenship, while most of the Palestinians were isolated in the autonomy, the territory of which, like shagreen leather, is shrinking from year to year.

jews and arabs have lived together in the region for a few millenia.. its the arab extremists that want to re-ignite a persian empire dominion of the middle east.. and thats where tensions increase with staged regimes of territory wars

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jews and arabs have lived together in the region for a few millenia.. its the arab extremists that want to re-ignite a persian empire dominion of the middle east.. and thats where tensions increase with staged regimes of territory wars

  I believe you have made a serious mistake in that the Arabs dream of the Persian Empire, which existed before the Caliphate, moreover, did not know Islam. And today the Persians are in confrontation with most of the neighboring Arab countries. Remember how they fought with Iraq for 8 years.
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jews and arabs have lived together in the region for a few millenia.. its the arab extremists that want to re-ignite a persian empire dominion of the middle east.. and thats where tensions increase with staged regimes of territory wars

  I believe you have made a serious mistake in that the Arabs dream of the Persian Empire, which existed before the Caliphate, moreover, did not know Islam. And today the Persians are in confrontation with most of the neighboring Arab countries. Remember how they fought with Iraq for 8 years.

Dude Franky... you are so utterly confused that I am surprised. The current Iranian regime is the opposite to a Persian empire.

I guess you mean simply Iran, but decided to dress it up in drags.


Alik Bahshi

October 7, - cause and effect

     On October 7, 2023, Israel was subjected to a terrorist attack by Palestinians hamas extremists from Gaza,

fixed that for you..
its not new but very apparent that narratives always try to mix up the words hamas with palestinians

the war in the region is not where isreal want to genocide all palestinians. isreal want to get rid of hamas and all extremisms where the extremists are shouting "death to isreal"
[...]

Sure...

https://observer.co.uk/news/opinion-and-ideas/article/israels-proposed-city-on-the-ruins-of-rafah-is-merely-a-prelude-to-mass-deportation

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Israel’s proposed ‘city’ on the ruins of Rafah masks plan for mass deportation from Gaza

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On 7 July, Israel’s defence minister briefed journalists on a plan to push Palestinians in the Gaza Strip into a city built atop the ruins of Rafah in the south. Legal scholars warn it amounts to a blueprint for mass imprisonment and could constitute a crime against humanity.

I guess that depends on who you ask.
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August 05, 2025, 04:41:07 PM
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  In modern times, due to the war, Israel is experiencing serious problems in the field of construction, which has completely stopped, and in the declining production of agricultural products, the prices of which have increased by 50%. Israeli businessmen, accustomed to dealing with Palestinians from the autonomy, are not ready to pay much higher salaries to workers invited from abroad. Continuation of the war could lead to a catastrophic state of the economy.


Honestly, I don't think the Israeli govern has anything to be afraid of, as long as Netanyahu has the backing of the government of the United States, then there will be always money for the administration of Bibi. There is no way the people of Israel will face economical crisis, lack of good and services, or even inflation.
So the Netanyahu has pretty much a blank check they can use to fund their war against Hamas and also the people of Palestine. It's not a secret Netanyahu seeks to occupy the gaza strip in the long term, and to do so, he needs to get rid of people living there. It is pretty obvious.


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(satire but not for reasons you think:)
oh my gosh..  i wanted to travel the world. and each time i did i was "forced into an enclosure ahead of planned expulsion."
AKA.. an airport/embassy/customs process
OH my gosh, airports are genocide halls(reminder its satire)

(satire but not for reasons you think:)
oh my gosh.. im a refugee in a tent, i want a better life in a land thats safer..
if i stay, the local thugs will love me but wont feed me unless i pay 15x to fund the thuglife.. i will die in the cold as im in a tent..
if i side with the neighbouring country trying fed me for free and trying to remove the local thugs, then i will be treated as a enemy of thugs..
if i leave then i need to pretend the country i go to is a prison compared to the hell im in due to local thugs..
so i must pretend the free food is genocide, must pretend offers of shelter in neighbouring safe lands is genocide(reminder its satire)

(satire but not for reasons you think:)
oh my gosh..
if i refuse to buy food at 15x from the thugs and instead get free food from neighbours i got to call it genocide
if i house thug cowards and neighbours come to deal with the thugs..i have to call it genocide
if the thugs hiding in my house cause my house damage and cause me to live in a tent i got to call it genocide
if i refuse to live in a tent and want to find a safer place, i have to call it genocide, coz the thugs told me to
(reminder its satire)

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