Do VIP program gives you an edge, or make you spend more?

[Davidvictorson]

how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Being at the VIP level has a different level of exclusiveness that it affords you. Just as VIPs in a real life club offers that and you know what, you also spend more. Spending more in casino when in the VIP programs means a higher chance of winning more but it does mean you have a better odds. Casinos do not mess with their VIP customers because they know that other casinos are waiting to receive them with incentives and they can easily transfer their VIP status to the other casino.

[mikel_012]

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

It really gives benefits and lowers the house net edge. It's the same when a restaurant has cashback or awards for customers that come all the time. It's good for both sides.
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I am pretty sure that your definition of "edge" is different here, because probabilities don't change when you get bonus. You literally just get bonuses, which technically can be seen as ROI, but it's not about edge probability, but just a bonus that is pre-calculated, so it always existed and that edge doesn't change.

And sure, they work like a cashback and many (not gambling) companies often gave similar reward and vip levels, so this might as well could seen as a cashback as well. But often it's not as automatic.

No, we have the same definition.

If the house has a edge of 1%, every $1000 you bet you lose $10 in the long term. If the casino gives you $5 back in bonuses for the same $1000 that you bet, it's like you only lose $5 in the long term for that amount, so it's like the edge is only 0.5%. Do you understand the logic?

[WhoYouCantKill]

VIP program may give advantages like Cashback, gifts and better service, though they are programmed to keep you bet more. For some users, the additional rewards scarcely outweigh the additional funds they end up spending to sustain or advance their status. It may seem good in the short term, but after a long time it always rewards the casino a long way more than the user.

[Mahanton]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Main thing that in the case of Gambling, always it is not like that all gamblers win, in the reality a limited number of gamblers win, and so I think even VIP programs are in some cases get more facilities in casino from the as usual normal player, but I think ultimately ia limited number of gamblers win in  vip programs also, it is not like that if you get in to VIP program you will always win or will able to make constantly money on that casino.

It would be just misconception if anyone thing that he will make only profit or on VIP program even I will say that in that case, the gambler who thinks like this may be he might goes for the more spend.

Gamblers would be always on the losing side and this is where gamblers should be thinking about on dealing up with it on minimal way rather than on putting up themselves on being that too active on dealing up with gambling. Speaking about VIP programs on which I can say that these are just that indeed traps on which if you dont know on what you are that indeed doing then you would be that totally dig deeper on doing it.

VIP benefits and perks might that look something generous or what, but to think that on how much you would be that needing up to spend up that much before you can achieve or acquire those ranks.
It all maters about self realizations and approach on how someone will be that tending to adjust accordingly. At the end of the day, no matter how attractive those offers and perks may look, the reality is that the house always has the advantage. These so-called “benefits” are simply there to keep you engaged and spending more, and most of the time the losses far outweigh whatever small rewards you get back.

So the real “win” is not about getting those flashy perks, but about knowing when to stop, controlling your habits, and not letting the system control you.

[Y3shot]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Having the VIP slot doesn't change gambling from what it is and it doesn't make gambling wining to be easy, this is just something that is being package by the casino for customers who are VIP to feel special, their is nothing special about being VIP in gambling.

Gamblers don't need to fall for this because if you do you will still lose very well. Gambling remains what it is irrespective of the slot or special package offered by the casino.

[swogerino]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Having the VIP slot doesn't change gambling from what it is and it doesn't make gambling wining to be easy, this is just something that is being package by the casino for customers who are VIP to feel special, their is nothing special about being VIP in gambling.

Gamblers don't need to fall for this because if you do you will still lose very well. Gambling remains what it is irrespective of the slot or special package offered by the casino.

Maybe it is like you say but for me surely is better to have a monthly bonus, weekly bonus and for higher VIP levels daily bonuses. I know that the gambling sessions will be more likely the same yet with the bonus in hand it gives you some extra opportunities to try and hit the win. Maybe the VIP is nothing special but most gamblers see it as special because give them a few more tries compared to non having VIP level at all and that is why most gamblers love it and sometimes even spend more to get to extra VIP levels which will lead them to bigger bonuses. For me is the same I always look forward to the monthly bonus to give a free try to win something, it is like a gift from casino to players that have wagered certain amount of money.

[Bitinity]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Having the VIP slot doesn't change gambling from what it is and it doesn't make gambling wining to be easy, this is just something that is being package by the casino for customers who are VIP to feel special, their is nothing special about being VIP in gambling.

Gamblers don't need to fall for this because if you do you will still lose very well. Gambling remains what it is irrespective of the slot or special package offered by the casino.

If there is nothing special of being VIP in casino, do you mean to say that the name "VIP" here is completely bullshit? In general, being VIP get special perks and benefits than those who are not VIP, so logically it is already special. VIP level has nothing to do with winning/losing chance, I have no idea why to talk about it for this VIP thing. If you cant feel the benefits of being VIP players in casino, can I assume that you have not experienced it yet?

[Maslate]

If there is nothing special of being VIP in casino, do you mean to say that the name "VIP" here is completely bullshit? In general, being VIP get special perks and benefits than those who are not VIP, so logically it is already special.

Anyone could say it’s nothing special, especially if they haven’t reached the highest level of VIP yet, or if they tried but failed because they were chasing the VIP status instead of just enjoying what they were doing and achieving it naturally. We can’t really blame them since that’s their opinion, but personally, I believe VIP status does come with real perks  that’s why it’s called VIP. It just shouldn’t be something we force our way into.

[Wapfika]

If there is nothing special of being VIP in casino, do you mean to say that the name "VIP" here is completely bullshit? In general, being VIP get special perks and benefits than those who are not VIP, so logically it is already special.

Anyone could say it’s nothing special, especially if they haven’t reached the highest level of VIP yet, or if they tried but failed because they were chasing the VIP status instead of just enjoying what they were doing and achieving it naturally. We can’t really blame them since that’s their opinion, but personally, I believe VIP status does come with real perks  that’s why it’s called VIP. It just shouldn’t be something we force our way into.

Personally, I slowly increasing my VIP level on Metawin for the sake of increasing my perks when I gamble. However, I don’t consider it as an edge rather just an extra money that I can by simply playing because it’s not directly related to my gambling PnL.

Maybe it helps to recover some of my losses but again it’s not an edge rather a special benefits for playing since it doesn’t make my game increase winning percentage.

[goldkingcoiner]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

It's just a rewards program for players who continue to be loyal towards a casino by using them for their gambling. Long term users get awarded in any place of business, it is just good marketing to reward someone for their loyalty.

Of course, the main point is keeping them on their platform because they know they will get rewarded for it.

In the end, it is all about profits for the casino business. But it feels good to be acknowledged and rewarded.

I doubt it makes me spend more, it just makes me more loyal towards the casino in question. Because I know they care about user retention more than quick and easy profits.

[ozgr]

If this VIP program provides weekly and monthly benefits even if you don't deposit money regularly, it's nice. After I stopped using a site where I played with high amounts, they gave me good credits to get me back. I think the only advantage is that it can be nice if you run out of money

I think it's okay to have one VIP membership, it can be useful.

Stake.com is the only casino that I knew which reward user even without wagering anymore once they reach a certain VIP level.

The rewards were so generous before but right now it’s downgraded but still operate the same way on distributing rewards. AFAIK they are just giving back part of the wager that you made in the past before you reach the VIP level.

Technically it’s not an edge rather a small percentage rakeback.

Stake.com isn't like it used to be as the number of members increased, the rewards decreased.
Some sites I play on offer betting coupons exclusive to VIP accounts, which can be a nice advantage. They give out a limited number of coupons.

[|MINER|]

Gamblers would be always on the losing side and this is where gamblers should be thinking about on dealing up with it on minimal way rather than on putting up themselves on being that too active on dealing up with gambling. Speaking about VIP programs on which I can say that these are just that indeed traps on which if you dont know on what you are that indeed doing then you would be that totally dig deeper on doing it.

VIP benefits and perks might that look something generous or what, but to think that on how much you would be that needing up to spend up that much before you can achieve or acquire those ranks.
It all maters about self realizations and approach on how someone will be that tending to adjust accordingly.

I don't know whether I should call it a trap or something else, but I think that the fact that we transfer VIP members from one casino to another and the extra bonuses that can be enjoyed as a result of the transfer, is a marketing plan of gambling sites, and it doesn't matter that what I think, this is the reality.

And in this case too, there are different rules that require wagering requirements to be met, and when it comes to doing this, it is seen that most gamblers are losing a lot of money even after making VIP transfers. Moreover, VIP members may be those who wager more, and in this case, these players are always more profitable for the casino, which means that the players lose more here.

[Strongkored]

Actually, I don't care much about the VIP program because I think it won't fit my budget, but once I tried to pursue it and what I thought was true, a small bettor is unlikely to achieve that. It requires a big capital and not just that but also the ability to bear significant losses. If you are just a small bettor and even have little time to gamble, don't think about the VIP program, it's hard to reach.

[Beparanf]

Actually, I don't care much about the VIP program because I think it won't fit my budget, but once I tried to pursue it and what I thought was true, a small bettor is unlikely to achieve that. It requires a big capital and not just that but also the ability to bear significant losses. If you are just a small bettor and even have little time to gamble, don't think about the VIP program, it's hard to reach.

It’s not really worth it if you will gamble just to claim the VIP bonuses such as daily, weekly, monthly and level up bonuses since it all depends on the amount of your wager.

Consider yourself lucky if you manage to wager big without suffering huge loss because that’s the only time we can consider VIP benefits as an edge against the casino.

Currently, I’m using this VIP bonuses together with casino tournament to gain profit while still enjoying the regular gamble. It’s either a form of cashback or profit.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

VIP program may give advantages like Cashback, gifts and better service, though they are programmed to keep you bet more. For some users, the additional rewards scarcely outweigh the additional funds they end up spending to sustain or advance their status. It may seem good in the short term, but after a long time it always rewards the casino a long way more than the user.

Count it as a reward you get from casino for being a high roller and also a loyal customer to them, so the VIP they give player is like a customers loyalty benefits, though it keeps customers to always want to use the casino because of the benefits they are receiving, for players that love gambling always, it might not even interfere with how responsible they choose to be but it can just make them to always stick with the casino.

[ultrloa]

VIP program may give advantages like Cashback, gifts and better service, though they are programmed to keep you bet more. For some users, the additional rewards scarcely outweigh the additional funds they end up spending to sustain or advance their status. It may seem good in the short term, but after a long time it always rewards the casino a long way more than the user.

Count it as a reward you get from casino for being a high roller and also a loyal customer to them, so the VIP they give player is like a customers loyalty benefits, though it keeps customers to always want to use the casino because of the benefits they are receiving, for players that love gambling always, it might not even interfere with how responsible they choose to be but it can just make them to always stick with the casino.

Its incentive for being continuous patronizing their casino. Also to make people feel like they are well rewarded for their activities done on their casino.

But people should not give an edge on those things since its a method used by casino to lure those high rollers to gamble in their casino again.

Players should not get bothered thinking about their potential cash back or other rewards to get. Since what's better more they need to focus is on how they can be more responsible gamblers so that they can avoid losing lots of money on gambling.

[bitLeap]

As gamblers, we all know that most casinos now have a VIP program. The only way to reach that level or increase your VIP status is by continuously gambling and placing higher stakes so you can climb up faster.

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

The correlation is clear, if you want to reach a higher VIP level, it means you are ready to bet more. But once again don't burden yourself with such gambling if you are just an ordinary gambler. It's better to put aside the pursuit of VIP levels and play according to the amount of money you can afford to bet. Moreover winning at the casino isn't determined by how high your level is. I prefer not to put pressure on myself when gambling, and this might be the best solution for ordinary gamblers to stay in the game.

[aioc]

So this question is for those aiming for a higher VIP level or those already there..
how do you feel about it? Does it actually give you real benefits, or does it just make you spend more?

Being a VIP at a casino comes with numerous perks, including exclusive benefits, priority service, and rewards points that can be redeemed for upgrades and complimentary services. Still, in exchange for that you need to spend more to enjoy a perks continously, you have to a professional gambler with deep pocket to maintain your VIP status.
It’s every gambler’s goal to become a VIP, but there is a cost and maintaining it is not easy for regular players.

[Mahanton]

VIP program may give advantages like Cashback, gifts and better service, though they are programmed to keep you bet more. For some users, the additional rewards scarcely outweigh the additional funds they end up spending to sustain or advance their status. It may seem good in the short term, but after a long time it always rewards the casino a long way more than the user.

Count it as a reward you get from casino for being a high roller and also a loyal customer to them, so the VIP they give player is like a customers loyalty benefits, though it keeps customers to always want to use the casino because of the benefits they are receiving, for players that love gambling always, it might not even interfere with how responsible they choose to be but it can just make them to always stick with the casino.

Its incentive for being continuous patronizing their casino. Also to make people feel like they are well rewarded for their activities done on their casino.

But people should not give an edge on those things since its a method used by casino to lure those high rollers to gamble in their casino again.

Players should not get bothered thinking about their potential cash back or other rewards to get. Since what's better more they need to focus is on how they can be more responsible gamblers so that they can avoid losing lots of money on gambling.

But actually it is just that a trap on which giving out those perks for their huge spendors but to know that they are the ones who are that making them rich via spending tons of money but to know that they are also that their huge losers or simply that making them rich even more on which its normal that they were be that giving out some good perks for those VIP to make them stay and play out even more and the cycle continues. Its not that a new thing and most of platforms now or even we do say that all of them do have that kind of leveling system on which once you do able to hit up that particular level then you are that qualified to get those bonuses or perks on which you can even tell into yourself that you are that wanting to get it and this what makes you that fell into their trap. This is how this business works on which they are trying out to make people stay long as much as they could and as long they do have that money that they could spend on and this is why its important that you should be wary about into your spending and be that wary about with those promotions on which it is just that indeed a trap. If you arent that good when it comes into this aspect specially on control and moderation then you should be that careful and mindful about into the decisions when dealing up with gambling. Gambling for the sake of fun and entertainment and never ever make yourself that getting engaged up too much because once you do make yourself that being too hooked up then you are that bound to have that possibilities that you will be that piling up your loses and even if you are already a VIP but still those perks and bonuses cant be able to patch up on how much you have lost totally already. They are just that patching up those shit moments you do have and then you would be forgetting those disappointments and you would be continuing to play even more just because you have forgotten already that emotion on which this can truly consider to be a trap.

[junder]

VIP program may give advantages like Cashback, gifts and better service, though they are programmed to keep you bet more. For some users, the additional rewards scarcely outweigh the additional funds they end up spending to sustain or advance their status. It may seem good in the short term, but after a long time it always rewards the casino a long way more than the user.

I think this VIP program does have advantages over the usual, perhaps with some of the advantages you mentioned. But honestly, regarding cashback, I myself have an account at a casino, and it's not VIP-based. I do receive cashback once a week, but it also depends on my deposits. Casinos that offer these different options certainly have a purpose, and it's none other than profit.
But I think this VIP program only makes players spend more money than they actually gain. From a gambling perspective, choosing the VIP option doesn't mean it's easy to win, right?