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Yeah I wonder why France isn't more in the conversation at the moment. I mean with the talent they have, as well as recent success (silver at the Olympics) it would be fair to assume they will definitely go fot the medals in this one. I have watched 2 games from Greece in the last days (against Serbia and Israel) and both times they got totally destroyed. They played without Giannis though for whatever reason.
France has a very good team, and as you said, they won silver at the Olympics. Here they can hope for a medal, of course there are some very strong teams in my opinion the main favorites are Serbia and Germany, but we’ll see. Honestly, I can’t wait for the competition to start. You are all correct about France. Indeed, they have a good team, but they are missing more than enough of their PF/ Center line. Rudi Gobert, Moustapha Fall, Mathias Lessort, Vincent Poirier, and, of course, Wemby. So, it's pretty obvious that they have smaller chances than teams that are covered in this line and IMO it will be very difficult to get a medal in this tournament. Spain also has problems with injuries, with more than 5 players, with the latest addition to their list being Alberto Abalde. And I guess that's the main reason Giannis didn't play in any friendly games so far. Greece needs him healthy if they want to be among the medalists.
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Yeah I wonder why France isn't more in the conversation at the moment. I mean with the talent they have, as well as recent success (silver at the Olympics) it would be fair to assume they will definitely go fot the medals in this one. I have watched 2 games from Greece in the last days (against Serbia and Israel) and both times they got totally destroyed. They played without Giannis though for whatever reason.
France has a very good team, and as you said, they won silver at the Olympics. Here they can hope for a medal, of course there are some very strong teams in my opinion the main favorites are Serbia and Germany, but we’ll see. Honestly, I can’t wait for the competition to start. You are all correct about France. Indeed, they have a good team, but they are missing more than enough of their PF/ Center line. Rudi Gobert, Moustapha Fall, Mathias Lessort, Vincent Poirier, and, of course, Wemby. So, it's pretty obvious that they have smaller chances than teams that are covered in this line and IMO it will be very difficult to get a medal in this tournament. Spain also has problems with injuries, with more than 5 players, with the latest addition to their list being Alberto Abalde. And I guess that's the main reason Giannis didn't play in any friendly games so far. Greece needs him healthy if they want to be among the medalists. Yes, a healthy Giannis can make a difference,without him it will be very difficult for them to achieve anything. France can do it the players you mentioned will be badly missed, but they still have that quality. To be honest, i haven’t been following Spain. In my opinion, Serbia and Germany have the most well prepared teams.
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Yes, a healthy Giannis can make a difference,without him it will be very difficult for them to achieve anything. France can do it the players you mentioned will be badly missed, but they still have that quality. To be honest, i haven’t been following Spain. In my opinion, Serbia and Germany have the most well prepared teams.
That's true, and that's why they have the better odds for winning the tournament. Even if I didn't see any exhibition game, Serbia and Germany are among the 2 teams that it will be a surprise not to get any medal. Which one will get the gold is a different and early story to discuss. For me, the "riddle" is which teams will follow them. France and Spain will face difficulties with such absences, that's for sure.
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Yes, a healthy Giannis can make a difference,without him it will be very difficult for them to achieve anything. France can do it the players you mentioned will be badly missed, but they still have that quality. To be honest, i haven’t been following Spain. In my opinion, Serbia and Germany have the most well prepared teams.
That's true, and that's why they have the better odds for winning the tournament. Even if I didn't see any exhibition game, Serbia and Germany are among the 2 teams that it will be a surprise not to get any medal. Which one will get the gold is a different and early story to discuss. For me, the "riddle" is which teams will follow them. France and Spain will face difficulties with such absences, that's for sure. In my opinion, the main favorite is Serbia also, and Germany is the second best. Another medal contenders are France, Spain, Lithuania and Greece. Latvia as host nation will try its best surely, and maybe can become the revelation of the tournament. Other participants are pretty mediocre. Cyprus - as an "isolated island" here - will try not to lose by more then 20 points in every game, but local supporters will have an unique occasion to follow quality basketball in any case.
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You are all correct about France. Indeed, they have a good team, but they are missing more than enough of their PF/ Center line. Rudi Gobert, Moustapha Fall, Mathias Lessort, Vincent Poirier, and, of course, Wemby. So, it's pretty obvious that they have smaller chances than teams that are covered in this line and IMO it will be very difficult to get a medal in this tournament. Spain also has problems with injuries, with more than 5 players, with the latest addition to their list being Alberto Abalde. And I guess that's the main reason Giannis didn't play in any friendly games so far. Greece needs him healthy if they want to be among the medalists.
Yeah until yesterday I wasn't even aware of France's front court problems with all the injuries. Just read it in German news finally about all the players they are missing and their overall height is alarmingly low.  They still have quality in their team of course but missing Wemby and Gobert alone is a HUGE blow, epecially to your defense since these 2 are both all NBA defensive players. Anyway, if they play well as a team they still have a chance but looking at the missing players now France is the clear cut number one for this tournament with no team coming even close.
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Serbia are significantly favoured @2.50. They haven't ever won it, right? Spain have odds like 14.00. Very high for a team which became champions 4 times in the last 6 EuroBasket tournaments... I wasn't impressed with Türkiye's performance in the friendly matches. Alperen is playing for a team, but he's not the only one who can do it.
Alperen's performance against Germany was incredible though.  He did more than 50% of the work there and Cedi Osman was also a good help. They are our key players so their effort will be crucial for us during EuroBasket. I think we can qualify for playoffs by finishing our group in top 4.
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Yeah until yesterday I wasn't even aware of France's front court problems with all the injuries. Just read it in German news finally about all the players they are missing and their overall height is alarmingly low.  They still have quality in their team of course but missing Wemby and Gobert alone is a HUGE blow, epecially to your defense since these 2 are both all NBA defensive players. Anyway, if they play well as a team they still have a chance but looking at the missing players now France is the clear cut number one for this tournament with no team coming even close. Nobody can dismiss a team like France, but we have to admit that they have a clear problem there. They will also miss Fournier, who was a connection link in their lines. Honestly, I'm very interested to see how they will choose to play and with whom. Serbia are significantly favoured @2.50. They haven't ever won it, right? Spain have odds like 14.00. Very high for a team which became champions 4 times in the last 6 EuroBasket tournaments...
No, they haven't. At least as Serbia, because as Yugoslavia, they earned it 8 times.  As for Spain, IMO the odds are correct. Doesn't matter how many times you get it. If your team has injuries and is missing crucial players, then you can't rely on history to win it. Serbia is the favorite for a couple of reasons, besides the fact that they have in their team the magnificent Joker.
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Yes, a healthy Giannis can make a difference,without him it will be very difficult for them to achieve anything. France can do it the players you mentioned will be badly missed, but they still have that quality. To be honest, i haven’t been following Spain. In my opinion, Serbia and Germany have the most well prepared teams.
That's true, and that's why they have the better odds for winning the tournament. Even if I didn't see any exhibition game, Serbia and Germany are among the 2 teams that it will be a surprise not to get any medal... In my opinion, the main favorite is Serbia also, and Germany is the second best. Another medal contenders are France, Spain, Lithuania and Greece. Latvia as host nation will try its best surely, and maybe can become the revelation of the tournament... You’re right, Serbia looks like the most complete squad on paper – they’ve got depth, experience, and the kind of chemistry that matters in tournaments. Germany too has shown they’re no longer just a “dark horse” but a real top contender after their World Cup run. France and Spain are always dangerous in Eurobasket, no matter the roster changes. Lithuania also has strong fundamentals, and if Greece has Giannis in top shape, they can upset anyone. Personally, I think the biggest surprise might come from either Latvia or Lithuania – both have that mix of talent and motivation that can crack the semifinals. For me, the final four could easily be -- Serbia, Germany, France, and one Baltic team (Latvia/Lithuania)....
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Yeah until yesterday I wasn't even aware of France's front court problems with all the injuries. Just read it in German news finally about all the players they are missing and their overall height is alarmingly low.  They still have quality in their team of course but missing Wemby and Gobert alone is a HUGE blow, epecially to your defense since these 2 are both all NBA defensive players. Anyway, if they play well as a team they still have a chance but looking at the missing players now France is the clear cut number one for this tournament with no team coming even close. Yeah, their frontline with all players would be one of the best in world. I also would add Lessort as big loss, but after he missed almost whole season, it's nothing strange that he will miss Eurobasket. France and Spain are always dangerous in Eurobasket, no matter the roster changes. Lithuania also has strong fundamentals, and if Greece has Giannis in top shape, they can upset anyone. Personally, I think the biggest surprise might come from either Latvia or Lithuania – both have that mix of talent and motivation that can crack the semifinals. For me, the final four could easily be -- Serbia, Germany, France, and one Baltic team (Latvia/Lithuania)....
Giannis so far didn't had much success in FIBA tournaments. And I have doubts this time too, their bench looks too weak. Nobody isn't talking about Slovenia, despite that they have Doncic. And it's understandable. Besides Doncic, there is only Prepelic who is higher level player. It's not like they used to have prime time brothers Dragic, Tobey or Anthony Randolph.
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Yes, a healthy Giannis can make a difference,without him it will be very difficult for them to achieve anything. France can do it the players you mentioned will be badly missed, but they still have that quality. To be honest, i haven’t been following Spain. In my opinion, Serbia and Germany have the most well prepared teams.
That's true, and that's why they have the better odds for winning the tournament. Even if I didn't see any exhibition game, Serbia and Germany are among the 2 teams that it will be a surprise not to get any medal. Which one will get the gold is a different and early story to discuss. For me, the "riddle" is which teams will follow them. France and Spain will face difficulties with such absences, that's for sure. I followed both Germany and Serbia. Somehow, Serbia seems more relaxed to me, as if they were playing at 40% of their capabilities. They have a lot of big names, and as you said, it would be a surprise not to win a medal...On the other hand, the key player for Germany is Schroder, and I really like his style of play and way of thinking. He is very focused and knows how to assess situations tactically. I think France can keep up with them, and even though they are missing a lot of players, as i said, they still have quality.
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I got curious and checked out Türkiye's odds. We are sharing 19.00 odds with Slovenia, Lithuania and Latvia. I'm not surprised with these odds on the other hand.  We don't have the same spirit and quality of players from the past from now on. We are mostly relying on our few players with NBA experience. I've missed the days on which we finished 2010 FIBA World Cup as the 2nd.
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I followed both Germany and Serbia. Somehow, Serbia seems more relaxed to me, as if they were playing at 40% of their capabilities. They have a lot of big names, and as you said, it would be a surprise not to win a medal...On the other hand, the key player for Germany is Schroder, and I really like his style of play and way of thinking. He is very focused and knows how to assess situations tactically. I think France can keep up with them, and even though they are missing a lot of players, as i said, they still have quality.
Well, it sounds logical not to put all of their strength in an exhibition/ friendly game. What matters most is to be focused, strong, and healthy in the tournament. Spanoulis and Greece staff "choose" not to use Giannis for the risk of any injury. However, since he will need some playing time, it seems that he will play in the Akropolis friendly tournament. Germany has great homogeneity, like Serbia, maybe even bigger. Also, they have the winning spirit and mentality from their previous successes. Surely it will be a tremendous surprise if some of these teams miss out on the medals. We said, anything can happen and that's why we love this game. 
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Serbia is the clear favorite, no question. With Jokic, Bogdanovic and the rest of their core, they’re way ahead of the field. Germany and France are right behind. Germany looks more stable as a unit, while France still has depth but is lacking a dominant big (Gobert’s not the same factor anymore). Still, they’re top 3 material. Latvia at 15:1 is interesting. Home crowd + confidence boost can always push a team beyond their “paper odds.” Lithuania too — classic contender, never an easy out, and usually performs above expectations. My take- Top 3: Serbia (obvious), Germany (solid), France (dangerous but less balance). Dark horses: Latvia, Lithuania, Italy — any of them can surprise and make a deep run. The fun won’t just be in watching the favorite dominate, but seeing which of the second-tier squads breaks through.
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I followed both Germany and Serbia. Somehow, Serbia seems more relaxed to me, as if they were playing at 40% of their capabilities. They have a lot of big names, and as you said, it would be a surprise not to win a medal...On the other hand, the key player for Germany is Schroder, and I really like his style of play and way of thinking. He is very focused and knows how to assess situations tactically. I think France can keep up with them, and even though they are missing a lot of players, as i said, they still have quality.
Well, it sounds logical not to put all of their strength in an exhibition/ friendly game. What matters most is to be focused, strong, and healthy in the tournament. Spanoulis and Greece staff "choose" not to use Giannis for the risk of any injury. However, since he will need some playing time, it seems that he will play in the Akropolis friendly tournament. Germany has great homogeneity, like Serbia, maybe even bigger. Also, they have the winning spirit and mentality from their previous successes. Surely it will be a tremendous surprise if some of these teams miss out on the medals. We said, anything can happen and that's why we love this game.  Well Germany has the same problem as France, they are lacking a real force inside the paint. Sure we have some guys but missing Mo Wagner (injury), Hartenstein (injury and not really playing national team anyway) and also Maxi Kleber (also injury but not playing for the team anymore after his dispute with Schröder over commitment). If we had at least 1 or 2 guys of them I would say we are close to Serbia, but without them it's gonna be a big hill to climb if we want to reach the medal ranks. Doncic is back playing, Giannis is back in training as well and Lauri Markannen is dominating. Man we will see some great players in this one!!
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Yeah until yesterday I wasn't even aware of France's front court problems with all the injuries...
Yeah, their frontline with all players would be one of the best in world. I also would add Lessort as big loss, but after he missed almost whole season, it's nothing strange that he will miss Eurobasket. France and Spain are always dangerous in Eurobasket, no matter the roster changes. Lithuania also has strong fundamentals, and if Greece has Giannis in top shape, they can upset anyone.
Giannis so far didn't had much success in FIBA tournaments. And I have doubts this time too, their bench looks too weak. Nobody isn't talking about Slovenia, despite that they have Doncic. And it's understandable. Besides Doncic, there is only Prepelic who is higher level player. It's not like they used to have prime time brothers Dragic, Tobey or Anthony Randolph. Honestly, you’ve got a fair point here. Giannis with Greece in FIBA never really looked as dominant as he does in the NBA — partly because international rules are different, partly because the supporting cast just isn’t deep enough. And yeah, this year the Greek bench looks paper-thin. One injury or foul trouble and suddenly the whole system collapses. As for Slovenia, people kinda sleep on them because aside from Luka, the squad doesn’t look stacked. Prepelic is decent, but they don’t have the same firepower they had with the Dragic brothers or Tobey/Randolph in their prime. Still, having Doncic alone can turn a game upside down. If he catches fire, Slovenia can upset anyone, even without a deep bench. For me, Serbia and Germany are still top favorites, but I wouldn’t completely write off Greece or Slovenia — both can be “wildcards” depending on how their stars perform.
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Well Germany has the same problem as France, they are lacking a real force inside the paint. Sure we have some guys but missing Mo Wagner (injury), Hartenstein (injury and not really playing national team anyway) and also Maxi Kleber (also injury but not playing for the team anymore after his dispute with Schröder over commitment). If we had at least 1 or 2 guys of them I would say we are close to Serbia, but without them it's gonna be a big hill to climb if we want to reach the medal ranks.
Doncic is back playing, Giannis is back in training as well and Lauri Markannen is dominating. Man we will see some great players in this one!!
Every team has strengths and weaknesses; it's a living organism that can't be the same every time, and honestly, this is a part of basketball's beauty. It's a sport where teams missing or having even one player can make a huge difference to them. Especially players of such calibre and value. So yes, Germany is lacking players in the paint, but it's a team that can cover it, while France can't. However, this is my personal opinion, and it might end the other way around. And yes, I'm sure that we will see great games and plays from exceptional players. Like you, I'm anticipating the tournament to start! 
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I followed both Germany and Serbia. Somehow, Serbia seems more relaxed to me, as if they were playing at 40% of their capabilities. They have a lot of big names, and as you said, it would be a surprise not to win a medal...On the other hand, the key player for Germany is Schroder, and I really like his style of play and way of thinking. He is very focused and knows how to assess situations tactically. I think France can keep up with them, and even though they are missing a lot of players, as i said, they still have quality.
Well, it sounds logical not to put all of their strength in an exhibition/ friendly game. What matters most is to be focused, strong, and healthy in the tournament. Spanoulis and Greece staff "choose" not to use Giannis for the risk of any injury. However, since he will need some playing time, it seems that he will play in the Akropolis friendly tournament. Germany has great homogeneity, like Serbia, maybe even bigger. Also, they have the winning spirit and mentality from their previous successes. Surely it will be a tremendous surprise if some of these teams miss out on the medals. We said, anything can happen and that's why we love this game.  Well Germany has the same problem as France, they are lacking a real force inside the paint. Sure we have some guys but missing Mo Wagner (injury), Hartenstein (injury and not really playing national team anyway) and also Maxi Kleber (also injury but not playing for the team anymore after his dispute with Schröder over commitment). If we had at least 1 or 2 guys of them I would say we are close to Serbia, but without them it's gonna be a big hill to climb if we want to reach the medal ranks. Doncic is back playing, Giannis is back in training as well and Lauri Markannen is dominating. Man we will see some great players in this one!! I agree, a lot of injured players, while in Serbia everyone is playing just like they did at the olympic games. Germany and Serbia are close when it comes to individual talent. I checked the odds today, for Serbia to win a medal it’s 2.70, while for Germany it’s 5.50. As you mentioned, with Giannis, Doncic, and the others, it’s going to be very interesting this will really be a strong European Championship.
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Turkey lost to Lithuania by a landslide on August 7th (70-91). This time, they defeated Lithuania 84-81.
I didn't watch the entire match. When I did, we were playing well, even leading. I didn't watch because I thought we were going to lose anyway. I was surprised to hear the score later. This win gave me some hope for the European Championship. I think we'll at least make it through the group stage.
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Media Predictions! https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/fiba-eurobasket-2025/news/media-predictions-champions-surprises-and-mvp-favoritesMedia Predictions: Champions, surprises and MVP favoritesIt's a long read, but it's worth it. Those who don't know much about EuroBasket will have an idea about the event. Who will win FIBA EuroBasket 2025?  Honestly, I didn't like the gap in percentage. It's understandable for France without Gobert and Wemby, but Germany still has lots of good players. Spain still has Aldama and the Hernangomez brothers. I think they will be the wild card here, although they are listed as one of the biggest disappointment teams. Who will be the TISSOT Most Valuable Player?  I have been reading a lot of social media posts, and most predictions are looking at Giannis to gain the MVP award. Well, who knows? He is a good player, and if he can really carry his team, then he might really get the award.
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Bad news for Bosnia-Herzegovina. Dzanan Musa will not join their team for the tournament, since his recovery from the surgery that he had in Munich will last longer than he and the doctors expected. Losing their most valuable player is a big blow and cuts their chances drastically for any good position.
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