🃏TonPoker 🃏 - The First & Largest Poker Room On Telegram | No KYC, Rewards 💲.

[DYING_S0UL]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Either change this statement or don't declare yourself as "No KYC". As simple as that!

[Ojima-ojo]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Either change this statement or don't declare yourself as "No KYC". As simple as that!

Most time's when casino who are CEX says no KYC, what they mean is that you will not be required to verify account before you can play of the casinos, between, if there is any suspicious activities on your account you may be ask to prove your identity so, that basic fact should be understood.

[DYING_S0UL]

Most time's when casino who are CEX says no KYC, what they mean is that you will not be required to verify account before you can play of the casinos, between, if there is any suspicious activities on your account you may be ask to prove your identity so, that basic fact should be understood.

Like I said previously, I really dont care! It's either KYC or No KYC, nothing in between! Technically its misleading. IMO, that's just pure excuses by those KYC casinos! They can just tag any account with "suspicious activity" and confiscate users deposits and winnings. They can tag u, tag me, and say I did something suspicious without even having to show any proof of that! I don't buy that. It's like saying No dress code on the flyer, and then the bouncer stops you at the door saying u r wearing suspicious sneakers, so you can't come in. U understood my point right?

[DiMarxist]

Most time's when casino who are CEX says no KYC, what they mean is that you will not be required to verify account before you can play of the casinos, between, if there is any suspicious activities on your account you may be ask to prove your identity so, that basic fact should be understood.

Like I said previously, I really dont care! It's either KYC or No KYC, nothing in between! Technically its misleading. IMO, that's just pure excuses by those KYC casinos! They can just tag any account with "suspicious activity" and confiscate users deposits and winnings. They can tag u, tag me, and say I did something suspicious without even having to show any proof of that! I don't buy that. It's like saying No dress code on the flyer, and then the bouncer stops you at the door saying u r wearing suspicious sneakers, so you can't come in. U understood my point right?

I think it is very clear from the image your showcase that they have the right to request your verification if things are not in the right position. Casinos are centralized operating system which in their turn submitting documents to the government for full operation so if government suspect their client to be a scam or wanted, they can request verification. And other suspicious activities.
But in clear sense the casino does not request your personal information before using the casino. As you click the link, it direct you to the telegram with no registration and your already username in the telegram appears and you start playing the poker, and that is the simple meaning of the "No KYC". Image said, "they reserve the right" that is futuristic in any case and not in every case. You can test the poker to confirm their statement. There is nothing to argue here. Just have a fair play and all is good.

[dwyane36]

Most time's when casino who are CEX says no KYC, what they mean is that you will not be required to verify account before you can play of the casinos, between, if there is any suspicious activities on your account you may be ask to prove your identity so, that basic fact should be understood.

Like I said previously, I really dont care! It's either KYC or No KYC, nothing in between! Technically its misleading. IMO, that's just pure excuses by those KYC casinos! They can just tag any account with "suspicious activity" and confiscate users deposits and winnings. They can tag u, tag me, and say I did something suspicious without even having to show any proof of that! I don't buy that. It's like saying No dress code on the flyer, and then the bouncer stops you at the door saying u r wearing suspicious sneakers, so you can't come in. U understood my point right?

It's worth noting that many poker rooms require their users to undergo mandatory verification at the moment of account registration. Given the large number of scammers and bots, KYC is one of the few tools to combat them in poker rooms.
However, I agree with you that they shouldn't mislead users by stating “no KYC” if the terms and conditions state otherwise.

[Ruttoshi]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Either change this statement or don't declare yourself as "No KYC". As simple as that!

It's a telegram casino which you only have to register through telegram and start playing. What they wrote is to give you the awareness that there's an amount of money that you would win to make them demand for KYC. This is a norm in most of the casinos who claim to be No KYC. If you hit the jackpot, you will be asked for KYC.

I guess that there's no reputable casino out there that's not going to ask for KYC because they will be regulated by the government.

[DYING_S0UL]

It's a telegram casino which you only have to register through telegram and start playing. What they wrote is to give you the awareness that there's an amount of money that you would win to make them demand for KYC. This is a norm in most of the casinos who claim to be No KYC. If you hit the jackpot, you will be asked for KYC.

I guess that there's no reputable casino out there that's not going to ask for KYC because they will be regulated by the government.

I am well aware of how these works! But that was not the point of my question! What I simply asked was to be transparent towards the users!

At first glance reading the ANN anyone would assume it was a "NO KYC" casino! But when you take a look at their T&C, it clearly isn't! Isn't that somewhat misleading/misinformation? I understand it is the players's responsibility to read the T&C but still...u know what I mean! I'm not sure why is it so hard to explain. No means no, u can't just say no to a thing and later do the opposite! That's not what No means!

However, I agree with you that they shouldn't mislead users by stating “no KYC” if the terms and conditions state otherwise.

[Alex077]

Most time's when casino who are CEX says no KYC, what they mean is that you will not be required to verify account before you can play of the casinos, between, if there is any suspicious activities on your account you may be ask to prove your identity so, that basic fact should be understood.

Like I said previously, I really dont care! It's either KYC or No KYC, nothing in between! Technically its misleading...

It's worth noting that many poker rooms require their users to undergo mandatory verification at the moment of account registration. Given the large number of scammers and bots, KYC is one of the few tools to combat them in poker rooms.
However, I agree with you that they shouldn't mislead users by stating “no KYC” if the terms and conditions state otherwise.

exactly this...
KYC is the necessary evil of modern online poker - too many bots, chip dumpers, multi-accounters out there. No KYC... Congrats, you just opened a bot paradise. Any decent poker room would be unplayable within a day
But yeah, marketing it as “no KYC” while hiding it in T&C is pure clickbait. Old regs already know - if you want a real room and not some sketchy site, do the damn KYC one time and get back to grinding.

[Ton Poker]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Thank you for the question, Basically what you see in terms & condition is requested by Telegram to have. But the project team does not ask for KYC. You can withdraw without a KYC.

[DYING_S0UL]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Thank you for the question, Basically what you see in terms & condition is requested by Telegram to have. But the project team does not ask for KYC. You can withdraw without a KYC.

Ahh, I get it now! But honestly, I'm not sure what to make of it actually. I didn't knew that Telegram could actually ask for KYC (not for the messaging app itself). I always thought they never would. I just made a search after reading your comment, and it seems it's legit they can, but apparently only for 3rdparty apps or services that are based at Telegram, like TonPoker. Thanks for clarifying that and sorry for earlier!

[348Judah]

Btw, @Ton Poker

Care to explain why your ANN says "No KYC" while your terms and conditions says the opposite! I didn't notice it before, but today while scrolling through your T&C, this statement below caught my attention. This " We reserve the right to request verification documents" is clearly a KYC policy! So why the contradictory statement? Personally, I don’t care whether you guys are KYC free or not, what I care about is transparency to the users!

Thank you for the question, Basically what you see in terms & condition is requested by Telegram to have. But the project team does not ask for KYC. You can withdraw without a KYC.

Ahh, I get it now! But honestly, I'm not sure what to make of it actually. I didn't knew that Telegram could actually ask for KYC (not for the messaging app itself). I always thought they never would. I just made a search after reading your comment, and it seems it's legit they can, but apparently only for 3rdparty apps or services that are based at Telegram, like TonPoker. Thanks for clarifying that and sorry for earlier!

Now the whole issue has been clarified, Ton Poker still remains a no KYC platform and they stand on what they say without any compromise, this shows that they would have more better understanding of how things works and how they could also prevent for the use of bots form users who may try to act funny playing, with this effect, they should gain more attractive participation for their platform with poker player, because many love to use a gambling platform that KYC wont be their issues, especially during withdrawal.

[iBaba]

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It's worth noting that many poker rooms require their users to undergo mandatory verification at the moment of account registration. Given the large number of scammers and bots, KYC is one of the few tools to combat them in poker rooms.
However, I agree with you that they shouldn't mislead users by stating “no KYC” if the terms and conditions state otherwise.

I think the problem is not even about the the KYC in it self but about the trust. Take for instance if a poker room says there's no KYC involved in its platform then the users or players should be expecting exactly that and not otherwise where they will see hidden clauses for instance where they will suddenly begin to ask you  of your ID checks in the name of suspicious activities.

While I do really understand the reason why some platforms are so concerned about the KYC checks is because they need it to fight against scams and bots. So my advise to these platforms is for them to just state it clearly from beginning that there are conditions where KYC might apply instead of deciding to hide it in the first instance then revealing it along the line. It's really misleading and can bring distrust between the platform and the players.

[notocactus]

I think the problem is not even about the the KYC in it self but about the trust. Take for instance if a poker room says there's no KYC involved in its platform then the users or players should be expecting exactly that and not otherwise where they will see hidden clauses for instance where they will suddenly begin to ask you  of your ID checks in the name of suspicious activities.

While I do really understand the reason why some platforms are so concerned about the KYC checks is because they need it to fight against scams and bots. So my advise to these platforms is for them to just state it clearly from beginning that there are conditions where KYC might apply instead of deciding to hide it in the first instance then revealing it along the line. It's really misleading and can bring distrust between the platform and the players.

Soon we will all have to deal with KYC requirements almost everywhere and KYC will get most of us in our necks. Researching about platforms allow us to register and use with all features without KYC is no longer easy and available choices have become shrinking more over time.

KYC can be useful for companies to know their customers better, reduce cheating and also avoid issues with governments while sometimes it can help them to recover stolen funds in hack accidents too. It's for company side but for users, they dislike KYC especially who value their privacy and anonymity. Such people will try to avoid KYC as much as possible but for example at TonPoker, it's their home and it's their poker room with own rules, so you have to obey their rules to participate.

[Ruttoshi]

 

Ahh, I get it now! But honestly, I'm not sure what to make of it actually. I didn't knew that Telegram could actually ask for KYC (not for the messaging app itself). I always thought they never would. I just made a search after reading your comment, and it seems it's legit they can, but apparently only for 3rdparty apps or services that are based at Telegram, like TonPoker. Thanks for clarifying that and sorry for earlier!

Now that you have gotten clarification from TonPoker team, have you registered and plan to take part in their poker tournament ongoing in this forum. If you haven't then you are on a long thing. Don't miss this chance as you can be the lucky winner to one of the prizes. Hope to play with you in the biggest poker room on telegram. 

While I do really understand the reason why some platforms are so concerned about the KYC checks is because they need it to fight against scams and bots. So my advise to these platforms is for them to just state it clearly from beginning that there are conditions where KYC might apply instead of deciding to hide it in the first instance then revealing it along the line. It's really misleading and can bring distrust between the platform and the players.

It looks like you didn't read the reply from TonPoker team here. It was stated that they only wrote that in their ToS just to please telegram requirements and TonPoker does not ask you for kyc during withdrawal. If they don't write it like that in their ToS, telegram wouldn't allow them to operate on the telegram app.

[DYING_S0UL]

Ahh, I get it now! But honestly, I'm not sure what to make of it actually. I didn't knew that Telegram could actually ask for KYC (not for the messaging app itself). I always thought they never would. I just made a search after reading your comment, and it seems it's legit they can, but apparently only for 3rdparty apps or services that are based at Telegram, like TonPoker. Thanks for clarifying that and sorry for earlier!

Now that you have gotten clarification from TonPoker team, have you registered and plan to take part in their poker tournament ongoing in this forum. If you haven't then you are on a long thing. Don't miss this chance as you can be the lucky winner to one of the prizes. Hope to play with you in the biggest poker room on telegram. 

Isn't that obvious?
They only way you can check their terms and conditions is after you have registered through their telegram bot! Not before that, or else how could I provide that screenshots? There isn't any links to their T&C in this ANN. As for the tournament, lets hope so. But I can't make promises. I have some things that are/will be keeping me busy! So having a quite bit of a time management issue here! Fingers crossed!

[Zoomic]

Now the whole issue has been clarified, Ton Poker still remains a no KYC platform and they stand on what they say without any compromise, this shows that they would have more better understanding of how things works and how they could also prevent for the use of bots form users who may try to act funny playing, with this effect, they should gain more attractive participation for their platform with poker player, because many love to use a gambling platform that KYC wont be their issues, especially during withdrawal.

I am happy Ton Poker was able to clear the doubt of the users promptly. That is why and how it feels to have an active project rep that will attend to issues like this. If Ton Poker continues with this pace and commitment, the sky will be their limit.
There's nothing as good as a project standing firm for their identity and terms.
kudos to Ton Poker and remain active in the space, it will pay well on the long run.

[Ton Poker]

Let’s kick off this Saturday with the top news! LAUNCHING THE LEADERBOARD 🧻🧻🧻

We’re playing on LOW and MID stakes. 4 days in a row, from Sep 13, 9:00 UTC until Sep 16, 23:59 UTC. Points are awarded for every win at the cash tables.

A TON of prize spots!
Prizes on LOW stakes: $2,500 for 60 players.
Prizes on MID stakes: $3,500 for 30 players.

THE GAME STARTS HERE:
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🙏♥️😩🤓💀💸

[dwyane36]

We’re playing on LOW and MID stakes. 4 days in a row, from Sep 13, 9:00 UTC until Sep 16, 23:59 UTC. Points are awarded for every win at the cash tables.

Leaderboards are good for attracting audience attention, as some users will become more active trying to compete for the top prizes. But what about poker tournaments? Are you planning to develop MTTs, series, or are you only focusing on cash games?

[348Judah]

We’re playing on LOW and MID stakes. 4 days in a row, from Sep 13, 9:00 UTC until Sep 16, 23:59 UTC. Points are awarded for every win at the cash tables.

Leaderboards are good for attracting audience attention, as some users will become more active trying to compete for the top prizes. But what about poker tournaments? Are you planning to develop MTTs, series, or are you only focusing on cash games?

I also was expecting that the news coming should be concerning the Poker Tournament, but to my surprise, this coming was also an amazing offer that they've got to serve the gambling community to play with, leader board, as this helps to know how his stand is in playing poker game, when you have the chances of knowing your skill form among other poker players under a competitive poker leader board, interestingly, this will be of a challenge for more play in standing out among others.

[Ton Poker]

We’re aiming for the prizes, fighting for the top places!!!

Every victory brings you higher up the leaderboard.

There are still more than 24 hours left until the final, so go for it – towards victory and $$$ prizes 😎😎😎

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