Do you think betting companies wants you addicted?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This post was inspired by a thread I saw on the social media platform X which says that betting companies are not your friend, their apps are designed to keep you broke and addiected". Well that's his opinion but left for me I don't support that statement cause those companies are not illegal, and they don't force customers to patronize them, moreover if they want you broke they won't advise you to gamble responsibly. Also, gambling is a game of luck and if every gambler acknowledge that and avoid being too greedy, then gamble in a responsible way, I don't think they'll go broke or get addicted. What's your opinion, do you support his statement?

You are right but still, I think the other person in X is also right in his own way too knowing fully well that gambling companies really solely on gamblers to make money, and the more this gamblers are bringing money to them, the more their casinos business grow and flourish, everyone running a business has this desire, that their business should do well, become a global brand with lots of customers across different countries of the world.

So, addicted gamblers are a great asset to the casinos because it's from such gamblers the casino make the most money, it's true that casinos do advice gamblers to gamble responsibly but I think this is because they are mandated by law to include that in the bottom of any parts of their casino, I've never heard that a casino returned the money of a gambler who they detected lost the money because he (the gambler) was a gambling addicts and shouldn't have risked such an amount of money on gambling if he or she wasn't addicted, or have you yourself @op ever seen or heard that a casino returned a gamblers money because he was an addicted gambler? I guess you answer is "No" too.

So, in the nutshell, casinos may not necessarily want gamblers to be addicted to gambler, but they definitely value gambling addicts more because they are the ones they make most money from.

[Japinat]

The gambling sites do not care up to what you think, but they include it on the terms of service that people should just gamble for fun. It is people that should discipline themselves.

I haven’t really seen that in the terms to be honest. If anyone here can point to a gambling site that actually has it, I’d appreciate it because I’d love to check it out. What I usually read in most casino TOS is simple, you need to be at least 21 years old to gamble. That’s the age where you’re no longer considered a minor and, ideally, you can think more maturely.

At the end of the day, casinos don’t decide rules based on what people “feel.” The law is pretty straightforward, as long as you’re 21 and above, you’re allowed. Whether someone gambles just for fun or treats it seriously to make money, that’s harder to judge and the casino doesn’t really care as long as you meet the age requirement.

[_act_]

The gambling sites do not care up to what you think, but they include it on the terms of service that people should just gamble for fun. It is people that should discipline themselves.

I haven’t really seen that in the terms to be honest. If anyone here can point to a gambling site that actually has it, I’d appreciate it because I’d love to check it out. What I usually read in most casino TOS is simple, you need to be at least 21 years old to gamble. That’s the age where you’re no longer considered a minor and, ideally, you can think more maturely.

I have seen it in more than 3 gambling sites. I always see it while reading their terms of service. I think I saw it on Stake and Livecasino also and some other gambling sites.

Let me use the gambling site that I put on their signature and avatar as an example which is Metawin:

2.0.1. You participate in the Games strictly in your personal capacity for recreational and
entertainment purposes only;

This is the link to Metawin terms of service: https://metawin.com/terms-and-conditions/

You will see it under section 2.0.1

[Shinpako09]

The more money you lose, the more money they make. Okay, aside from entertainment, what are casinos after? Money. How are they going to make money? right, when you lose. Well, in this kind of business, you shouldn’t venture into it if you easily get carried away by conscience. After all, the decision to play is in every player’s hands. It’s not like the casino forces you to play and deposit. Even with how enticing their ads are, if you don’t want to play, they can’t do anything about it. Oh, and by the way, since I’ve made consecutive deposits, I received an email, like advice or something from the casino. Idk if it’s automated or not based on how many times you’ve deposited. Well, idc about it tho.

[Berry2d]

Definitely they want you addicted because there is a parable that says one man's meat is another Mans poison. Meaning the pain of loses that gamblers experience is happiness of the casino. I earlier created a thread that say "Gambler are losers Casino owner are winners" this was exactly what Meant because theore gamblers lose the more gain the casino recieve.

[joniboini]

Trying to figure out what they want/hope is kinda meaningless imo. Who will explicitly say they want addicted gamblers to increase? They're not going to increase the chance government knocking on their door. Not to mention some players don't have the ability to control themselves either, even though it's their responsibility to do that. At the end of the day, just make sure you read their ToS, understand how their game works, and decide if they're for you or not. It's not like a business that says they are their customers' friend won't backstab you in the back either.

[Awaklara]

What's your opinion, do you support his statement?

I have experienced addiction and financial difficulties because of gambling. Although it was initially difficult to admit, the reality is that addiction and the bankruptcy of gamblers are caused by the uncontrolled desires of the gambler. If a gambler can control their gambling activities as well as manage the money they bet responsibly, casinos might not become the root of the problem.
If you are not prepared to lose the money you are betting, it's better not to ever try gambling.

[masulum]

I have experienced addiction and financial difficulties because of gambling. Although it was initially difficult to admit, the reality is that addiction and the bankruptcy of gamblers are caused by the uncontrolled desires of the gambler. If a gambler can control their gambling activities as well as manage the money they bet responsibly, casinos might not become the root of the problem.
If you are not prepared to lose the money you are betting, it's better not to ever try gambling.

casinos can be a factor that bringing people to addictions, but the most important factor remains the individual. Casinos provide easy access and a stimulating environment, but the choice to continue gambling or stop is entirely up to the individual. Therefore, casinos may not be the root of the problem, as the true root of the problem lies in a lack of self-control or personal circumstances that drive a person to seek out gambling for entertainment, leading to addiction.

[bakasabo]

Definitely they want you addicted because there is a parable that says one man's meat is another Mans poison. Meaning the pain of loses that gamblers experience is happiness of the casino. I earlier created a thread that say "Gambler are losers Casino owner are winners" this was exactly what Meant because theore gamblers lose the more gain the casino recieve.

I think they want you to return with the money, but not be addicted. Addiction is when you return for any reason you have, but the end is always the same, you are in debt and in troubles. For casino that means you are no longer a client, but a problem. Nobody wants any form of problem. Instead casino with you to be happy client who returns for more.

[robelneo]

Even if they want to, the decision is still yours; you have the sole responsibility to do what is necessary not to become addicted, even if they offer a lot of bonuses or giveaways.

They always remind their users to gamble responsibly. A responsible and happy gambler will always come back to play, and that’s additional profit for the casino. In contrast, an addict to gambling will one day shy away from casinos to cure his addiction, and it will take months or even years to come back.
Casinos thrive on responsible gamblers, not those who are irresponsible.

[AbuBhakar]

Even if they want to, the decision is still yours; you have the sole responsibility to do what is necessary not to become addicted, even if they offer a lot of bonuses or giveaways.

They always remind their users to gamble responsibly. A responsible and happy gambler will always come back to play, and that’s additional profit for the casino. In contrast, an addict to gambling will one day shy away from casinos to cure his addiction, and it will take months or even years to come back.
Casinos thrive on responsible gamblers, not those who are irresponsible.

That’s right. Besides, wishing their players to become addicted will surely give them some implications in an event that addiction cases becomes widespread.

Same on what happening to Philippines right now that there’s a lot of restrictions and ban in online gambling just because many people is become addicted.

In the end, their business will suffer if the government step in to solve this gambling addiction issue.

[TopT3ns]

Even if they want to, the decision is still yours; you have the sole responsibility to do what is necessary not to become addicted, even if they offer a lot of bonuses or giveaways.

They always remind their users to gamble responsibly. A responsible and happy gambler will always come back to play, and that’s additional profit for the casino. In contrast, an addict to gambling will one day shy away from casinos to cure his addiction, and it will take months or even years to come back.
Casinos thrive on responsible gamblers, not those who are irresponsible.

I know that the most important responsibility of this game is not based on the rules of the casino, but on us. It is possible to observe how bonuses or prizes are just the sleight of hand to prolong the time spent playing and they do not promise to win. In case we tend to relax, it will only accelerate the consumption of capital. Those players capable of self control will come back the following day with a clear conscience whereas addicts will be very long untangling themselves and that is not good to everybody.

It is only healthy gamblers who will keep on gambling in casinos since they do not jeopardize on their characteristics by playing casinos that expose them to casino intoxication that ends up costing them their future. We must bear in mind that such gambling is associated with risks and no promotion will help to remove them. That is why the most rational step is to control yourself, eliminate the size of losses in advance, and do not allow the profits to take you out of the schemes. Assuming that you do intend to keep it on as entertainment, make each session a jocular thing, not a gold-digging adventure. Then at least we can make sure that the game is fun as opposed to a burden.

[Platinumys]

Basically, gambling companies come to the market to do business, they do not have any intention to make a gambler addicted to gambling. Yes, the more a gambler gambles with their company, the more profit they will earn, in that case they will not want any of their customers to stop gambling. And I think that gambling companies have no interference behind gambling addiction. We ourselves are responsible for becoming addicted to gambling, we gamble but if that gambling is not as planned, if everything is excessive, then we will easily become addicted to gambling. But no gambling site asks any gambler to do something like that you gamble with all the money you have or if your gambling money runs out, you borrow money and still gamble. We gamblers do all this ourselves, so it would be wrong to blame the company here.

[mak013]

They don`t care about it. They just get money from everybody and don`t worry is he addict or not.
But the same time, i don`t think that betting companies need to attract attention with stories of broken lives of addicts, they would be more satisfied getting $5 everyday from lots of common gamblers, who just make 1-2 small bets every day and have no problems with addiction(except money they lose).

It is true that gambling companies do not have time to see if a gambler is addicted or not. They have designed their gambling in such a way that they will win. It is very common for gamblers, especially those who are greedy and gamble for a long time, to become addicted to gambling. They may be addicted because of their mistakes, but it is not the case that the gambling platform will attract them to bet only for their own sake. Gambling companies, even if they do not want it directly, will indirectly increase their profits as more gamblers are under their control and spend money, but they operate their activities to benefit not only addicted gamblers but also from the whole gamblers.

It is business. They need to get profit and to increase it. You can see lots of loyalty programs, bonus systems, marketing campaigns, etc. All these promotion costs money and betting companies spend it to increase their profit. But i`m sure that they would prefer common gambler than gambling addict - it wouldn`t attract attention. Common gambler wouldn`t cry everywhere how gambling broke his life - he just lost $5, not a problem.

[Oluwa-btc]

Betting companies are not your friend[/url][/b], their apps are designed to keep you broke and addiected". Well that's his opinion but left for me I don't support that statement cause those companies are not illegal

For what I know they don't care if you get addicted while gambling, all they are after their pockets, profits and gains so it doesn't matter to them  and while you go home loosing mostly. The fact that you patronize them doesn't give them that opportunity to care when you go overboard in terms of being addicted or broke why every gambler should be subjected to control and responsible gambling

[cxtreenal]

They don`t care about it. They just get money from everybody and don`t worry is he addict or not.
But the same time, i don`t think that betting companies need to attract attention with stories of broken lives of addicts, they would be more satisfied getting $5 everyday from lots of common gamblers, who just make 1-2 small bets every day and have no problems with addiction(except money they lose).

It is true that gambling companies do not have time to see if a gambler is addicted or not. They have designed their gambling in such a way that they will win. It is very common for gamblers, especially those who are greedy and gamble for a long time, to become addicted to gambling. They may be addicted because of their mistakes, but it is not the case that the gambling platform will attract them to bet only for their own sake. Gambling companies, even if they do not want it directly, will indirectly increase their profits as more gamblers are under their control and spend money, but they operate their activities to benefit not only addicted gamblers but also from the whole gamblers.

It is business. They need to get profit and to increase it. You can see lots of loyalty programs, bonus systems, marketing campaigns, etc. All these promotion costs money and betting companies spend it to increase their profit. But i`m sure that they would prefer common gambler than gambling addict - it wouldn`t attract attention. Common gambler wouldn`t cry everywhere how gambling broke his life - he just lost $5, not a problem.

It is probably true that gambling companies prefer ordinary gamblers and they focus more on increasing their numbers. They select a large number of gamblers from among them who are very involved in gambling and like to spend more time and money. To attract their attention, they offer bonus programs and deposit limits and offer the best offers on various betting strategies.

Companies are in business to make money and you as a customer, should continue to gamble according to your income regardless of the tempting offers they give you.

[Zlantann]

Definitely they want you addicted because there is a parable that says one man's meat is another Mans poison. Meaning the pain of loses that gamblers experience is happiness of the casino. I earlier created a thread that say "Gambler are losers Casino owner are winners" this was exactly what Meant because theore gamblers lose the more gain the casino recieve.

These casinos might be engaging in aggressive marketing but the decision to gamble is on the gambler. There are rules that guides the operation of casinos. The government always make laws that protect gamblers from exploitation through addiction. So a casino cannot just come up with strategies to make people addicted. Casino owners might want more customers, but they cannot force people to gamble.

Your proverb of "one man's gain is another man's loss" applies to all business. Morticians want people to die, lawyers want people to break the law, mechanics want your car to break down, breweries want you to keep drinking, tobacco companies want you to keep smoking, etc. If you keep blaming casinos for addiction, you are simply shifting responsibility.    

[letteredhub]

I will like to say in others words the betting companies are truly not yours friend or your enemies too, i just think i will like to raise a vaild concern about the potential risks associated with online betting, while betting companies operate within legal framework and promote responsible gambling, their business model is designed to encourage continued engagement, many betting companies include responsible gambling message and tools such as deposit limits and self exclusion options.

Gambling companies don't force you to gamble, yes it's correct they warn about responsible gambling  and even create  self exclusion features to help the gambler to fight addiction tendencies but in the very same the casino also gives you the tools to kill yourself with all the fascinating and eye catching games they provide in their sites. You the gambler beholds your fate with every actions base on the decisions you take, either to gamble with self control or to let loose and fall into addiction.

We are aware that gambling has been portrayed always in its two faces; the first portrays warnings and the self-control mechanism and the second promotes mass bunkering into the game. I do not refute the fact that the end of the decision still lies in the hands of a person, but I also predictively believe that gambling companies help people to go further than they planned. I am sure you can imagine the way that the persuasive words are used to create the promotions, the games are scripted to stimulate the adrenaline all the time and the sense of winning as an imminent possibility even when the odds are so against you.

I have understood that this case is an indication that it is not only people to be blamed since the system has been set to incorporate people. We should understand that not every person has strong mental will to withstand such stimuli, in particular when emotional factors are involved as well as the urge to make easy money. Therefore, even with the existence of official warnings, it is a fact that the companies still contribute to the enhancement of the risk, and this fact cannot make their involvement neglected.

The gambling platform is a business venture, they want to make profit and that's very important to keep the platform running. Hence they will make sure to employ all possible means of inducing the gamblers to glue to the the games, to continue gambling even when losing so much. At that tip it should be the responsibility of the gambler to advise himself to pause and walk off and don't make yourself vulnerable to the persuasions and promotions the casinos spread. It's as simple as it should be but we get too busy with wanting to win huge funds and neglect the obvious, our sanity.

[MainIbem]

I like this reply on the X handle link you shared.

Gambling gambling doesn't have anything to do with a gambler being an addict or not. In fact they don't know a single gambler becoming an addict. They are there to make money through the house edge and require every gambler's money. So it is up to the gambler to over gamble or not, it is up to the gambler not the gambling firm because the slot machine and other games are ready to play your game with you at anytime. Like the league are starting up, casinos just know that more activities of gambling are going to be coming from the football angle. Gambling responsibly is what a gambler should imbibe, it is not the business of the gambling company to know how you gamble.

This is an article two/three years back requiring for disclaimer from gambling companies on gambling responsibly to be added to their ads .I think that is what a gambler needs to know, just like the ads and warning from cigarette companies on smoking that "smokers are liable to die young".

What people forget is that every business owner would try to keep their customers close to get more income and just like every business entities do, gambling companies also use ads, bonuses and tournaments keep their customers and attract more customers too but that doesn't mean they want you to the addicted or go broke cause if those happens they might likely lose their customers that's why most gambling platforms advise their customers to play by the rules which is gambling responsibly and when a gambler fails to do that then they'll have themselves to blame for whatever the outcome of their actions may be and not the gambling platforms.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

I like this reply on the X handle link you shared.

Gambling gambling doesn't have anything to do with a gambler being an addict or not. In fact they don't know a single gambler becoming an addict. They are there to make money through the house edge and require every gambler's money. So it is up to the gambler to over gamble or not, it is up to the gambler not the gambling firm because the slot machine and other games are ready to play your game with you at anytime. Like the league are starting up, casinos just know that more activities of gambling are going to be coming from the football angle. Gambling responsibly is what a gambler should imbibe, it is not the business of the gambling company to know how you gamble.

This is an article two/three years back requiring for disclaimer from gambling companies on gambling responsibly to be added to their ads .I think that is what a gambler needs to know, just like the ads and warning from cigarette companies on smoking that "smokers are liable to die young".

What people forget is that every business owner would try to keep their customers close to get more income and just like every business entities do, gambling companies also use ads, bonuses and tournaments keep their customers and attract more customers too but that doesn't mean they want you to the addicted or go broke cause if those happens they might likely lose their customers that's why most gambling platforms advise their customers to play by the rules which is gambling responsibly and when a gambler fails to do that then they'll have themselves to blame for whatever the outcome of their actions may be and not the gambling platforms.

Sometimes i laugh from the way i see some gamblers do gamble, because they are not in any way helping with the situation, we cant claim to be an irresponsible gambler and expect that we have highest order of discipline from how we are gambling, had it been that we were disciplined right form time, may be we couldn't have been responsible in our ways of gambling, the gambling platforms has nothing to do with this, it is a matter of being discipline or an indiscipline nature of some gamblers who feels they can always take wrong approach to gambling the way they like.