What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

I believe in God, and God said, “go forth and multiply,” so for me it’s just right to have kids.

Having children brings a different kind of happiness. It’s not just about yourself anymore, you become more selfless, you work harder, and you learn to be more responsible because you want to provide and prepare a future for them.

And honestly, we all owe it to our parents too. They chose to have kids, and that’s why we’re even here in this world. Same with you, you’re only here because your parents believed in having children.

I disagree with the premise of the question. The economy should be fairly secondary when considering having children, unless we are talking about extreme cases. I see many people in developed countries who do not have children or postpone having them indefinitely because they have to go on trips to upload photos to Instagram. It is better to be clear about the unity of the couple, the common life project, and if you have limited resources, you will manage. That is how it has always been done. Another thing is that if you have limited resources, do not be foolish and have 10 children; take precautions.

I believe there are many other things God said you should do that you're not doing, and there are the ones he said you shouldn't do that you're doing, but you make sure you must obey this commandment.


If having kids makes one responsible, selfless and hardworking, how come we still have so many deadbeat, lazy and irresponsible parents out there? Why didn't having kids make them better people, and why are the kids suffering a life they didn't ask for?


A very flawed way of looking at life. Kids are not toys; they're not houses that we give as gifts. They are human beings who will be brought into a cruel world, and they will have no choice but to live through it. They will have to come into this world and face the challenges of the world for the rest of their lives, so the least the parents can do is to make sure they make things better. Shower the kid with so much love, make sure he has everything he needs to make life easy for him, and make sure the child is very well equipped in all aspects of life to handle this life on his own. If you can't do that, then don't have a kid, no matter what your God says.

If you live in a poor country with no perspective, then you shouldn't have kids to my mind because there is a very high chance that they'll have a bad future and low quality of life, they'll grow up in bad conditions and won't see a joy in life. But I'd say again that this highly depends on individual conditions. I mostly mean the case when mother and father have health issues and can't work. If the family is poor but both man and woman have brain and ambitions, then why not? Poverty can be temporary if someone is smart.
In rich countries, I think that people should have kids. Sadly, too many people prefer to have fun in their 20s and 30s instead of having kids to support the nation and increase the birth rate in country. Kids are very important and in EU, countries help parents in many ways to raise kids but sadly, many prefer to go to clubs every day and then blame others when they hit 40s.

Also, in general, the higher the level of education is in the country, the lower the birthrate is and the lower the education level is, the higher the birthrate is. That's because raising a kid is a very serious responsibility.

You're saying that you believe everyone born into this world has a purpose, whether their conception was planned or not. You feel that since we are born, we have a need to survive.

You also mention that some people don't want to have children because they understand the difficult responsibility of raising them. You note that this isn't an issue for the wealthy,
but it's a heavy burden for the poor or ordinary person.

When you are dependent you will see marriage as a scam, making babies will be scary to you because you can't take care of your responsibilities how do take care of your family when you get married and start giving birth. Women are helping mate so as children too when you get old this people takes care of you when you also train them well they become your eyes in future but before we should go into this let's make sure we have a source of income to enable us to take care of our responsibilities.

That’s a fair way to look at it because even if there’s a biblical command to go forth and multiply the reality is that raising a family requires more than just faith it also takes resources stability and readiness.
Children need food shelter education healthcare and emotional support and those things come with responsibilities that go far beyond the decision to simply have them. In today’s world the economic side of raising a family can’t be ignored many people struggle with the cost of living and bringing children into that situation without preparation can lead to hardship for both the parents and the children faith can guide values and give strength but it won’t replace the need for practical planning.

It’s not about rejecting the idea of having kids but about making sure that when the time comes parents are truly ready mentally emotionally and financially that way children can grow up in a stable environment rather than one filled with struggles that could have been avoided with careful thought and preparation.

I am male  

And regarding spouse 'needs' to be working in order to make child's life comfortable, such couple are better off not having kid in first place and should continue to live their lives comfortably instead of sacrificing their comfort by creating a kid.


Where did I say that or implied so?


That's a fact.


Ngl, I felt lowkey disgust at, "train them". Such mindset is also seen in my country where children are treated as retirement plans, it's deplorable.

Edit:


I don't believe in God.


It's your kid, so you love him. Isn't that first condition? (I am not sure if it makes sense, feel free to argue).

It's not assumption though, I have witnessed parents who shouldn't have had kids, these undeserving parents bring innocent lives here, and ruin it.


Yep, that's correct.


Sounds about right.