To have kids or not to? Your opinion from economy perspective

[BRINIRHA]

Yesterday I visited a friend of mine who has children, and he was very tired and complained to me that having children is incredibly expensive these days, while government assistance is minimal. The government pays benefits, but no one can survive on that because it's so little.
Even though the advertisements portray it as if having children is practically an easy way to make money, in reality, it's an utterly delusional idea and a financial trap.

This will depend on a person's financial situation before having children. Sometimes we need to be prepared, both financially and mentally. For me, personally, having two children, I feel like everything is going well. I even feel like my business is running more smoothly, although I have to rely more on my husband to manage the business and temporarily focus on taking care of the children. However, as my children grow older, I can also start to help out with my husband's business again.

The key lies in managing our own lives. And sometimes I experience miracles after having children. For example, my business has grown more rapidly. My family income has multiplied. I used to think I'd have a hard time managing my children and running a business alone. But it turns out that's not the case. I even still have free time for myself.

However, some things that will make someone truly happy about having a child are:

1. Having someone who faithfully helps and accompanies us at all times (a good life partner).
2. Being well-prepared mentally (especially mentally, because emotions will be truly tested).
3. Having financially prepared well in advance to welcome the upcoming child. As parents, we must be adept at financial management. We also need to work harder to earn extra income, such as through social media or even through crypto trading, among other things.
4. Don't think about expecting help from other people / the government.

[Veenie]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

There's ads that sell the idea that there's structures in place that families would benefit from...ploys, traps
The government trying to get that birthrate up

I'm all for having children if you can;
1. Plan for the number of kids you'd have running around
2. Stash away money in advance to accommodate your new family
3. Get your extended family around you

I like to look at it this way "it takes a village to raise a child" which isn't the case anymore and is why we're struggling to care for children in my opinion.

Also, everyone's self absorbed these days and blames it on the economy, has a little fun, makes a "happy accident" then suddenly remember you had "dreams" before the kid came along? Oh pleaseeee. Going off on a tangent here lol. Sure, don't have kids and if everyone doesn't? The species dies out!
Win for the earth

All in all, it's a no brainer that you ought not to bring new life into this world if you can't afford to take care of yourself, shouldn't even dream of looking to the government for any assistance if you can help it

[Jody.Drummer]

However, some things that will make someone truly happy about having a child are:

1. Having someone who faithfully helps and accompanies us at all times (a good life partner).
2. Being well-prepared mentally (especially mentally, because emotions will be truly tested).
3. Having financially prepared well in advance to welcome the upcoming child. As parents, we must be adept at financial management. We also need to work harder to earn extra income, such as through social media or even through crypto trading, among other things.
4. Don't think about expecting help from other people / the government.

Don't expect to have a good partner, because before that, we must first examine ourselves. If we believe we are good enough and worthy of others, then there is nothing wrong with wanting a good partner because that is everyone's dream. But sometimes, some people are unaware of wanting a good partner but are not good enough themselves.
In addition, mental preparation is also important. Don't just have children yet, but when we are going to get married, we must have a good mentality because this is different. We must understand each other well, with ego being one of the things that must be considered, because quite a lot of divorce cases are due to excessive ego. Also with finances, which I think is a factor that is at the top of the list in a household. Of course, maintaining a household relationship requires not only feelings of love, but also stable finances can maintain it. I'm sure you yourself have encountered cases of divorce due to financial instability.

[KeenanEl19]

Don't expect to have a good partner, because before that, we must first examine ourselves. If we believe we are good enough and worthy of others, then there is nothing wrong with wanting a good partner because that is everyone's dream. But sometimes, some people are unaware of wanting a good partner but are not good enough themselves.
In addition, mental preparation is also important. Don't just have children yet, but when we are going to get married, we must have a good mentality because this is different. We must understand each other well, with ego being one of the things that must be considered, because quite a lot of divorce cases are due to excessive ego. Also with finances, which I think is a factor that is at the top of the list in a household. Of course, maintaining a household relationship requires not only feelings of love, but also stable finances can maintain it. I'm sure you yourself have encountered cases of divorce due to financial instability.

What you say is true, self-reflection is necessary. I've heard my parents say that a soulmate is a reflection of ourselves. If we're not good enough, don't expect to find a good partner. Although we certainly hope for the best, we must first examine ourselves.

There are many factors to consider before getting married, because marriage isn't a trivial matter that can be done casually. Marry when you're ready, not when you're established. I believe the important thing here is that marriage means we must be ready to take on greater responsibility. It's not just ourselves we need to care for, but our partner needs to be cared for as well, and that is our responsibility as men.

[8rch7]

However, some things that will make someone truly happy about having a child are:

1. Having someone who faithfully helps and accompanies us at all times (a good life partner).
2. Being well-prepared mentally (especially mentally, because emotions will be truly tested).
3. Having financially prepared well in advance to welcome the upcoming child. As parents, we must be adept at financial management. We also need to work harder to earn extra income, such as through social media or even through crypto trading, among other things.
4. Don't think about expecting help from other people / the government.

Exactly all points are trues for some one want to have child, all four points above must prepare as well as in want have child and its important how to make easily controlling later from financial and mentality. First points it mean between wife and husband must working together take care about their children such as how happening nowadays the children just take care by mother and has less contribution from father. If both of them can working together for their children so not matter for having child.

I think most important with financial condition if want have children, right now in my environment many people have more than three until five children just difference few year only regarding not stable financial condition. They working in daily day and not routine just earn under $6 to $10 but get braveness having more than three or five children.

[Gaza13]

That reason might be true. Because if they're not financially stable yet, it's possible the child could lack nutritious food. And that's not even considering school education, which is expensive if it's at an elite and grand school with expensive facilities. But if it's a man, I think he just needs to work hard, so there's no need to delay having children, let alone not want to have children.

except women who don't want to have children, perhaps there's some truth to that in their minds because it will make their bodies fat and they will become unattractive and unappealing.

The point is, if you're not ready financially or otherwise, it's best not to get married. Staying single for life will give you freedom and focus on yourself. Of course, when we have children, we think about all of that. For me, children are a gift beyond measure. You'll never know the joy of playing with them. Not all women have that mindset; I think it's a ridiculous idea to think about your body or being unattractive.

[Judith87403]

To me, I feel that economy has absolutely nothing to do with having kids, truly the economy is bad but not to the extent where we can't provide food for the family. The only advice I can give regarding this issue of having kids is that we shouldn't give birth to the extent where the load will be much heavy for us to carry, at least having one kid is better no matter how bad the economy is. I believe the load will not be that much for us to carry instead of having as many as we want when we don't have all it takes to train them no. While having kids we also need to consider our financial situation and not by giving birth as if we are into competition.

[libert19]

...Sure, don't have kids and if everyone doesn't? The species dies out!
Win for the earth

Hehe I loved that.

All in all, it's a no brainer that you ought not to bring new life into this world if you can't afford to take care of yourself, shouldn't even dream of looking to the government for any assistance if you can help it

Yeah, if you have to look for assistance, then you shouldn't be having any.

...For me, children are a gift beyond measure. You'll never know the joy of playing with them. Not all women have that mindset; I think it's a ridiculous idea to think about your body or being unattractive.

Giving birth to kids does ruin women's body, I don't find anything wrong if women priortizes her beauty over kids.

[bubilas]

To me, I feel that economy has absolutely nothing to do with having kids, truly the economy is bad but not to the extent where we can't provide food for the family. The only advice I can give regarding this issue of having kids is that we shouldn't give birth to the extent where the load will be much heavy for us to carry, at least having one kid is better no matter how bad the economy is. I believe the load will not be that much for us to carry instead of having as many as we want when we don't have all it takes to train them no. While having kids we also need to consider our financial situation and not by giving birth as if we are into competition.

Children's birth have a direct impact on the economy, not just in the short term, but in the long term. After all, children will become the future labor force for the state, which will pay taxes.
That's why the state always pretends to care, trying to provide good conditions for families to have children. But unfortunately, this always looks rather pathetic, because the entire economic burden falls on the shoulders of the parents, and the state only pretends to try to help, but in reality, the assistance it provides is absolutely meager. After all, they don't provide apartments to large families and don't provide sufficient financial assistance to young families.

[xandry]

It doesn't make any sense to leave the surface of the earth and you don't have something attached to you and be remember. When you die and you don't have kids, your generation is going to be forgotten easily but by the time you have an heir, you have mark a living thing on this earth that is gong to multiply in many fold, your blood line is going to continue until the day this world comes to and end, your generation will be remembered on earth for their contribution to life and humanity.

What about astronauts who leave the surface of the earth? Some of them don't have children and it doesn't look like they're suffering from it. 
Do you really believe that every person who has ever lived on earth has a memory? I'm sure many of us don't even know anything about our grandfathers' parents.
Yes, no matter how scary it may sound, but people have been forgotten for generations, and it's not even that they didn't have children.

[Makus]

Well said, everyone that's mentally mature knows that there are lots of things to put in place before procreating. People always make an unintelligent statement in regards to this, they say, when the children comes God will provide, that shows how unprepared they are. There is nothing wrong with having kids but if you are not comfortable with life this is something that's only going to end up frustrating you. Some might say it's not something they planned for but that's not a smart statement to make because you are responsible and in control of every decision you make.

[junder]

To me, I feel that economy has absolutely nothing to do with having kids, truly the economy is bad but not to the extent where we can't provide food for the family. The only advice I can give regarding this issue of having kids is that we shouldn't give birth to the extent where the load will be much heavy for us to carry, at least having one kid is better no matter how bad the economy is. I believe the load will not be that much for us to carry instead of having as many as we want when we don't have all it takes to train them no. While having kids we also need to consider our financial situation and not by giving birth as if we are into competition.

I believe having one or more children will still impact the economy, whether it's for the better, as children are said to bring blessings, or it can actually make things more difficult due to the fact that fate is difficult to change. Nevertheless, I think all married people want to have children; it's one of the reasons people get married.
I believe having children isn't a bad thing, even if our economic situation is unstable. In the future, children should be able to provide the best for their parents, such as providing comfort and enjoyment for the rest of their lives.

[libert19]

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Do you really believe that every person who has ever lived on earth has a memory? I'm sure many of us don't even know anything about our grandfathers' parents.

I have observed that after certain age, people stop caring about their biological parents even, much less talk about previous generations.

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...Nevertheless, I think all married people want to have children; it's one of the reasons people get married.

I find it weird that you need to married to have kid, it's likely just cultural.

... In the future, children should be able to provide the best for their parents, such as providing comfort and enjoyment for the rest of their lives.

Woa.. that's lame.

[xandry]

To me, I feel that economy has absolutely nothing to do with having kids, truly the economy is bad but not to the extent where we can't provide food for the family. The only advice I can give regarding this issue of having kids is that we shouldn't give birth to the extent where the load will be much heavy for us to carry, at least having one kid is better no matter how bad the economy is. I believe the load will not be that much for us to carry instead of having as many as we want when we don't have all it takes to train them no. While having kids we also need to consider our financial situation and not by giving birth as if we are into competition.

Children's birth have a direct impact on the economy, not just in the short term, but in the long term. After all, children will become the future labor force for the state, which will pay taxes.
That's why the state always pretends to care, trying to provide good conditions for families to have children. But unfortunately, this always looks rather pathetic, because the entire economic burden falls on the shoulders of the parents, and the state only pretends to try to help, but in reality, the assistance it provides is absolutely meager. After all, they don't provide apartments to large families and don't provide sufficient financial assistance to young families.

Yes, apartments are not given for free, you probably know that I remind you that in Russia, for example, families with children can count on a mortgage loan of 6%
It's pretty good and many have used this offer. Plus, there is support for young families who live in poor conditions.

Sure, don't have kids and if everyone doesn't? The species dies out!
Win for the earth

Yeah, the only hope is for the women of Nigeria, who produce more than nine million children a year despite the fact that it is one of the poorest countries in the world.

[ejikeme24]

Nevertheless, I think all married people want to have children; it's one of the reasons people get married.

Actually there's nothing to argue about anymore because what you said here is nothing but the truth, of course our major aim of getting married is to have children I'm sure that no one can denied this fact, we all look for someone to marry because we want kids. I know that some people may say that what about those who have been married for 10-20 years yet no kids, but I want to say that there is always a reason behind that, sometimes the fault can come from the side of the woman or the man not that they didn't make attempt of course they do make several attempt just that it's not working for them but let's keep that aside. So having children is the main reason why we get married because if we keep children aside I don't see that much thing that a man will be looking for in a woman.

[Obulis]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

To be honest, you need motivation to earn. When you have little needs, you will not want to work hard because you can earn money according to your needs by working hard. Before having a child, parents only need to be aware of their own capabilities, that is, what they can do and whether they have the ability to work. But when a child is born, the parents will have a feeling of earning half of their future income for the future of their child, so they will want to work harder and earn more money. That is why I think that instead of not having children for the sake of financial well-being, you should have children by questioning your own capabilities because then the motivation to earn money will work.

Personally, you need money talk more of in marriage.
The issue of job security is not only when in marriage. Also having a future plan is not only for married couples. So defining when one is well off financially to get married and have kid(s) is for both couples, but supposedly different from money oriented marriage.

Considering life uncertainties has been of great interest to me in this matter. In as much as income is available to form marriage decision, people also go financially broken. This makes the idea of questioning someones capabilities paramount. People can lose even their Bitcoin. Uncertainties like lost of job or source of money happens. But these capabilities remains (at least to a great extent).
Building a family on that could be a healthier move, it doesn't mean not earning.

[criptoevangelista]

Everyone should have children, it’s the best thing that can happen in a person’s life. I have a daughter who is very loved and dear to me, and she completely changed my view of the world. Having children isn’t about having money or not, it’s about doing what we are meant to do as human beings. I think your mindset is very narrow and unfortunate, comparing having children to buying power

[JoyceBTC]

Everyone should have children, it’s the best thing that can happen in a person’s life. I have a daughter who is very loved and dear to me, and she completely changed my view of the world. Having children isn’t about having money or not, it’s about doing what we are meant to do as human beings. I think your mindset is very narrow and unfortunate, comparing having children to buying power

Yes everyone should have children when they can. Before having children one should also be prepared because it’s not actually easy taking care of children as it may sound easy. Taking care of one child or two children isn’t same as taking care of 3 to 5 children considering the state of the economy right now. They are persons that just decided to go with one or two children, not because they wouldn’t love to have more but because they are trying to cut down cost and at the same not financially buoyant to cater for more than that number of children.

Everyone should plan themselves and make wise decisions while planning towards children, have as you can be able to Carter for comfortable without much stress because having children comes with a lot of responsibilities, you must be mentally, financially and emotionally ready.

[Plaguedeath]

Everyone should have children, it’s the best thing that can happen in a person’s life. I have a daughter who is very loved and dear to me, and she completely changed my view of the world. Having children isn’t about having money or not, it’s about doing what we are meant to do as human beings. I think your mindset is very narrow and unfortunate, comparing having children to buying power

I'm sure you're someone who have never been in difficult situation, you might say you ever in difficult situation, but your difficult situation is still having a place to sleep and eat 3 times.

You haven't see a parent fight with each other because the wife keep asking for the child need while the husband have use all of his effort to collect every penny.

You're very fortunate for having a good life, hence there's no problem to have a children.

[libert19]

Sure, don't have kids and if everyone doesn't? The species dies out!
Win for the earth

Yeah, the only hope is for the women of Nigeria, who produce more than nine million children a year despite the fact that it is one of the poorest countries in the world.

I have observed that Nigerian people have intense faith in god and in their Bible, may be they really think that god will look after kids (which is obvious from country's current state), so they do not shy from having as many as kids they can.

Nevertheless, I think all married people want to have children; it's one of the reasons people get married.

Actually there's nothing to argue about anymore because what you said here is nothing but the truth, of course our major aim of getting married is to have children I'm sure that no one can denied this fact, we all look for someone to marry because we want kids.

I just denied this in my comment above bruh. You think this way (i.e, that you need to be married to have kids) is likely due to cultural imposition. I mean, you just need to fuck to have kids, with or without marriage, doesn't matter.

So having children is the main reason why we get married because if we keep children aside I don't see that much thing that a man will be looking for in a woman.

I am not fan of marriage, but let's say a person looks for a partner it could be for lust purposes or some look for companionship.

Everyone should have children, it’s the best thing that can happen in a person’s life. I have a daughter who is very loved and dear to me, and she completely changed my view of the world. Having children isn’t about having money or not, it’s about doing what we are meant to do as human beings. I think your mindset is very narrow and unfortunate, comparing having children to buying power

I do not doubt that every specie is here to perpetuate, but nah bro ain't fan of having children, and I do not think this mindset as narrow or unfortunate.