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August 30, 2025, 08:33:45 PM
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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.
Yes, you are absolutely right on this theory of illusion of control as you explained above, which happens to be one of the primary reasons why gamblers continue even after losing over and over again. And as such, I will also add that another reason or factor that I think also contribute to the reason why gamblers also continue, which is the "illusion of financial breakthrough ", because most of these gamblers have this mentally to someday get lucky to hit a jackpot while gambling, and as such, that ideology makes them keep gambling, even after losing over and over again. Because to be frankly this evening while coming from a football viewing center where I was watching this last premier league match between "Leeds vs Newcastle", I over heard two friends discussing, one who gambled and lost his game, and the other who was asking "Why don't you take a break since you have been gambling and not winning?" And then he responded saying "Why should I, I cant give up, because it's only a loser who gives up, and I can't give up, because I will continue until my lucky day when I will win my jackpot", And immediately it dawn on me that the illusion of financial breakthrough is indeed one of the primary reasons why most gamblers continue even after losing.

 
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August 30, 2025, 08:42:46 PM
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The illusion of control has kept so many people on a mental trap for a long time and this even results to addiction because they might tend to think that they can find a way to always make profit from gambling...one illusion that clouds the minds of gamblers is the thought of getting rich through gambling, this is just something that drives them to get addicted even more...No one can control the outcomes of gambling, you can either win or lose

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August 30, 2025, 08:43:40 PM
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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.

We often think, deep down, that we can control how we win. No matter how many proof we are presented with that the casino always wins we always think that we can overthrow this theory that applies to everyone. Then it gets justified when we actually win so we will continue playing thinking we can actually decide when to win.

If you get statistical and logical, you will remove these thoughts and you will not become overconfident or superstitious.
OK, i was going to say that I do not agree with you and that there is nothing as illusion of control, and that this term is simply something you coined up yourself, but before posting this comment, I decided to run a small research on Google and I found out that you are actually right.

Personally, I did not believe that there is any such thing as people having the illusion that they can control the outcome of their gambling games to the extent of even deciding when to win, which like we know is not actually possible especially when it comes to luck deciding games like slots, casinos games and even sports betting, having such believe or illusion can surely lead to unprepared loses and maybe a fraustrated life since the gambler will often lose money when they least expect it, illusions like this is something every gambler must avoid.

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August 30, 2025, 09:09:32 PM
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You're right illusion of control is one of the biggest traps in gambling. Many players think they can 'beat the system,' especially after a win, but that’s just the casino taking advantage of human psychology. Staying aware of the odds and thinking logically is key. Discipline and knowing when to stop is what separates a casual player from someone who consistently loses.

From what I observed, it's not actually winning the jackpot that most gamblers seem to experience. It's the "high" that they are chasing for whenever they win a gambling game. I do think that even if a person wins a huge jackpot, they will be stuck in that loop wanting and chasing to feel that kind of "high" once again.

Additionally, I would also like to discuss the illusion in the cycle of gambling. In this kind of scenario, regardless of whether a gambler wins or losses in his matches, the tendency for him would be to gamble again. As an example, if a person wins or losses, their initial reaction would be to recover that loss or to experience that win again by gambling once again.

In order to really avoid experiencing this illusion, a gambler must be prepared to stop or to call it a day whenever they have reached their desired result; or if they have exhausted their allocated budget for that day.


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August 30, 2025, 09:19:08 PM
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This is the biggest challenge in gambling, you start learning and makes consistent winnings eventually, and right there you start to develop overconfidence in gambling. You think you can always win than lose, but only to find out in the end that the casino house should always be the one to win while leaving you at a major losses.

Illusion of control is when you start to misinterpret the result of your actions and conclude that you’re already good at it. But only to realize that in gambling, there are more possible losses than wins, but if you can take fully control of your emotions, you can always minimize your losses.

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August 30, 2025, 09:21:42 PM
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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.

We often think, deep down, that we can control how we win. No matter how many proof we are presented with that the casino always wins we always think that we can overthrow this theory that applies to everyone. Then it gets justified when we actually win so we will continue playing thinking we can actually decide when to win.

If you get statistical and logical, you will remove these thoughts and you will not become overconfident or superstitious.

No matter how much effort  we put in the truth is luck will come when ever it pleases itself. I know most people spend a lot of time analysing games just to come of with a good selection but irrespective  of those selected game if we aren't lucky then there would be no win for the day. We just have to accept  this reality and work with it. Gamble wasn't created to be a short cut to wealth creation as most people sees it, and when that idea start becoming  extremely dip into our heads the end would be addiction and irresponsible  gambling behaviors.

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August 30, 2025, 09:27:23 PM
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Illusion of control is present in gambling just like it is present in trading also. The only difference in them is their probability of winning which one is based on luck and probability while the other is based on the knowledge you’ve acquired and how to apply them yourself to win. Casino sets up gambling sites in their platforms in order to remain profitable, there is no way you can consistently win in a casino and be happier that your next game will also end in a win.

The shock in gambling happens when you don’t even least expect it and you’re faced with regrets of not withdrawing and leaving when you first won the first few games. Gambling can be so interesting, addictive and also persuasive when winning, but immediately you meet with a loss, you’ll regret not leaving. Gambling is not a scheme you can get rich quick on, so take your little profit and come back another day to try your luck again. Don’t allow your illusion of control take the better side of you and end up in regrets later after not being able to continue winning and met with loss.

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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.
Normally, in gambling, losing is certain, but in most cases, the reason why a gambler finds it very difficult to control their gambling activities is greed, which can result from a lack of understanding.

 If you don't have an understanding of gambling, you will surely be controlled by it, and it will be very difficult for you to make the right decision. Greed is a bad habit that a gambler should never exhibit, as it will lead to feelings of dissatisfaction with the outcomes of gambling.

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If you get statistical and logical, you will remove these thoughts and you will not become overconfident or superstitious.
Adding strategies don't help increasing winning rate, there are over 100 betting options in sports book yet we still gamble on them and lose the bet, everything abut gambling is undecidable until the outcome is ready.

What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.
When we say gambling is about luck that mean outcomes are unpredictable chances are narrow even with how skillful we might be at predicting. Illusion doesn't change the outcome, gambling has always been about luck. So many gamblers that are not greedy still end up losing, being able to withstand losses is what makes a reasonable gambler.



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August 30, 2025, 10:29:42 PM
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What the OP has mentioned reminds me of smokers, claiming that they're able to stop at any time, but they never do. That's my understanding of the illusion of control. Gamblers usually think that they're in control of the situation, when they're often found going over budget and making excuses for themselves. It's no surprise that it's easy to get carried away, that's either fuelled by greed if you're winning, or desperation, if you're losing. In both cases, the outcome is always bad.

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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.

The only control you need to learn, and it's not an illusion, is the ability to control your urge to gamble what you can't afford to bet. Other kinds of control are just an illusion; you cannot control when and how you are going to win.

Illusion of control, based on your term, is what newbies are doing when they start to gamble. They thought that they could find a way to gamble. We have seen newbies bragging about doubling up to win, which is the martingale method, and later found that they are fools following this method, after they lose a significant amount.



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The illusion of control has kept so many people on a mental trap for a long time and this even results to addiction because they might tend to think that they can find a way to always make profit from gambling...one illusion that clouds the minds of gamblers is the thought of getting rich through gambling, this is just something that drives them to get addicted even more...No one can control the outcomes of gambling, you can either win or lose
Ithere was a news today in my local news about a guy that won about 47 millions naira with a bet of 5 thousand naira, this type of luck is the reason why many gambler believes that gambling is a means to get rich quick, since it happened to one person known to them, their will definitely thinks that such jackpot comes by all the time but in the end their may get disappointed thinking that way that gambling can make everyone a millionaire over night.

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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.
I think it could be both greed and illusion control that make a person gamble continuously till they lose all. But the problem is how to identify that it's an illusion control because when a person is driven by this force, it is difficult to know if you are getting addicted or not. And if told you may not agree to it since you are trying to prove a point or trying to show the house you can win them when you and I know you can't win them. But However control measures needs to be put in place when we see that we are going beyond boundaries.

 
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Your own ego will lead you to many mistakes in paths of life, here or elsewhere.  If you stay humble then you have the best chance to adjust your attitude correctly and not crash into losses or mistakes that could have been avoided more easily with humility.  
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That's how I think.

The most important thing at this point isn't the reason for the loss, but how the player deals with it. It's important to have well-defined goals and stay calm to avoid making mistakes. Otherwise, the risk is even greater. Besides losing a bet, the player could end up in serious trouble, such as taking out a loan to continue playing. Therefore, balance is essential. Bet just for fun, never as a way to solve problems.

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What really makes a gambler lose? Is it greed? Well it is the illusion of control. Illusion of control leads to continued gambling and the more a gambler plays the more the casinos win, right? As a gambler, you should be able to identify these illusions so you can at least get a hold of yourself.

We often think, deep down, that we can control how we win. No matter how many proof we are presented with that the casino always wins we always think that we can overthrow this theory that applies to everyone. Then it gets justified when we actually win so we will continue playing thinking we can actually decide when to win.

If you get statistical and logical, you will remove these thoughts and you will not become overconfident or superstitious.

A lot of people will win and keep playing, I will win and keep the win because if I keep playing I know im gonna lose it all like you said straight to the casino who wins the long game for sure. Some people win and some lose and some just keep going because their stubborn. Most of the time its not greed its just stubbornness lol

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Going into the statistics you will completely avoid gambling and your notion of being rich from gambling will be removed. But people dont go do the math but follow their fantasites more often.

Indeed gamblers feel they are in control when they deposit money and when they lose it they still feel they can make it back because of the illusion of control.

Newly started gamblers will make this happen more often. But the rare few who learnt the math behind it will open their own casinos Cheesy

 
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I've lost a lot due to greed, also because I thought I was in control of what I was doing I forgot that we won in a casino game only because of luck and not strategy, I got carried away and relied too much on my strategy, and that caused me to lose more money.

When we're newbies, it seems we all make these mistakes, I haven't used statistics my only logic is trying to control myself when I'm going to bet.

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Well, if a person does not have the illusion of control, then what is the main reason? As they say, the casino always wins. For most gamblers, yes, the casino wins. But the casino loses to a small number of gamblers. So, any gambler is motivated by the hope of being among these lucky ones. This is the main incentive for any person. The illusion of control is already a secondary incentive, and more likely for a regular gambler. For people who gamble only occasionally, the illusion of control is not in the first place among the incentives.

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