Should government officials be banned to enter gambling premises?

[happybitcoinph]

Referring to this thread, Engineers, DPWH Bulacan officials blew 300m each in casinos?, it's not a secret already that in the Philippines, some government officials and employees can lurk in physical casinos despite the 2016 Memorandum Circular No. 06, which prohibits government officials from gambling in casinos, and Article 178 of the Revised Penal Code, which bans the public use of a false name to conceal a crime.

Established legal physical casinos here in PH are aware of that memorandum, and as a solid established business, they are following it. However, at some point, they can't determine right away if one of their customers is a government-affiliated person because of these people's trick to not be recognized easily, as they will just act as a normal customer.

How about in other gambling-friendly countries? Like those countries that are popularly known for having big physical casinos.

Do they allow government officials to enter gambling premises?

[Agbamoni]

Indirectly you asking if government officials should gamble. If so weave seen similar topic on multiple occasion here in this thread. It will only attract spammers and those who want to complete their signature quota. Ill advise you lock this thread

[Bright0515]

Referring to this thread, Engineers, DPWH Bulacan officials blew 300m each in casinos?, it's not a secret already that in the Philippines, some government officials and employees can lurk in physical casinos despite the 2016 Memorandum Circular No. 06, which prohibits government officials from gambling in casinos, and Article 178 of the Revised Penal Code, which bans the public use of a false name to conceal a crime.

Established legal physical casinos here in PH are aware of that memorandum, and as a solid established business, they are following it. However, at some point, they can't determine right away if one of their customers is a government-affiliated person because of these people's trick to not be recognized easily, as they will just act as a normal customer.

How about in other gambling-friendly countries? Like those countries that are popularly known for having big physical casinos.

Do they allow government officials to enter gambling premises?

Even if the government are banned from gambling on physical casino it will not take them up to five minutes to create an online bet account and gamble from there. If they don't want to use their document for KYC verification, they just have to ask and they will get some from people because many people will be willing to give the government their documents if money is involved.

[happybitcoinph]

Even if the government are banned from gambling on physical casino it will not take them up to five minutes to create an online bet account and gamble from there. If they don't want to use their document for KYC verification, they just have to ask and they will get some from people because many people will be willing to give the government their documents if money is involved.

Pointing only to the physical form of gambling. There's no regulation yet regarding online gambling.

Indirectly you asking if government officials should gamble. If so weave seen similar topic on multiple occasion here in this thread. It will only attract spammers and those who want to complete their signature quota. Ill advise you lock this thread

I'm just wondering how it's going in other countries.

For example, Macau (China), Las Vegas (USA) , etc.

[Perfectbaby]

Government officials are respected people in my country and I don't think it's ethical seeing them gambling, however if they found gambling then they are not credible and worthy to be trusted handling their position in the government house, hence they should be fired for incompetency because anyone who could gamble may likely uses the government funds or organizational money to gamble and gives stories about the money without people knowing that it was used for personal gain but was lost at on the process.

[Findingnemo]

It is an outdated law because they can't stop anyone from gambling online or they need to have a list of all the government officials and share them with every regulated casino and restrict them while doing verification. I saw some exchanges ask you are not involved with any politics but nothing related to government officials and it make no sense either. Even a government official is also a citizen so they should be able to everything a common man can do and they can have restrictions like no policy while they are no duty.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Some countries already passed the law that government officials are not allowed to gamble, while in some countries there is no form of restrictions on government officials to gamble. In my country, everyone is free to gamble and I don't see any thing bad in doing so. Some corrupt officials will definitely look for other means to commit money crimes if they are not allowed to gamble.

[Adbitco]

Government officials are respected people in my country and I don't think it's ethical seeing them gambling, however if they found gambling then they are not credible and worthy to be trusted handling their position in the government house, hence they should be fired for incompetency because anyone who could gamble may likely uses the government funds or organizational money to gamble and gives stories about the money without people knowing that it was used for personal gain but was lost at on the process.

Apart from it not been ethical in your country, I don't think it's even ethical in any sane society that government officials should gamble. Some of them are people who are entrusted with the citizens funds to manage. What happens if a gambler that's a government official uses public funds to gamble? That itself is a major problem because lots of things will go wrong. Government officials found gambling should be fired immediately with a penalty, either a huge sum or a jail term as part of the punishment melted on any government official gambling.

[DPHOR]

Why should a government officials gambling?
Sincerely I don't think is properly right for a government officials to go into gambling to gamble with the position on their hands which I found it very bad and soiling their good images to gamble. I think they should be properly monitored in order not to jeopardize their position to gambling which we know gambling has very bad influence on people especially when they are getting into the addiction phase, this could affect their position and office of work.

[Cantsay]

Government officials are respected people in my country and I don't think it's ethical seeing them gambling, however if they found gambling then they are not credible and worthy to be trusted handling their position in the government house, hence they should be fired for incompetency because anyone who could gamble may likely uses the government funds or organizational money to gamble and gives stories about the money without people knowing that it was used for personal gain but was lost at on the process.

The thing is that those in government position or those government officials won’t do their gambling activities openly, except they want to experience those extravagant casino gambling activities that some of us get to see only in TV, I see no reason for them to be present there - if they want to just bet on a game or play something gambling related, they can find it only and gamble there, they don’t have to go anywhere to gamble and with the development of technology we’d soon get to the stage were we’d sit in our living and play game with other people who are thousands of miles away from us and still see them as if they are sitting just across the table from us.

Edit:

I just noticed that this thread was moved from gambling discussion to local board.

[GreatArkansas]

May mali din dito ang casino mismo kasi dapat maging strikto din sila.
Kahit dito sa amin, ang dali makapasok kahit naki gamit lang ako ng CR nila hahaha.

Curious din ako pano ang mga physical casino sa ibang bansa or ibang lugar like pano nila malalaman kung itong taong pumasok ay isang government official?

[bhadz]

Curious din ako pano ang mga physical casino sa ibang bansa or ibang lugar like pano nila malalaman kung itong taong pumasok ay isang government official?

Parang mahirap madetermine kasi katulad sa hearing kanina sa senado, pinepeke ng mga sugarol yung mga identities nila. Katulad ni Brice Hernandez, meron siyang rehistro sa LTO na lisensya na Marvin De Guzman ata yun. At si District Engineer Henry Alcantara ay Joseph Villegas. Parang handa sila na itago yung real identities nila at planado nila yung ginagawa nila. Sa part ito ng mga itong involved sa malaking halaga ng projects ng DPWH. Sobrang laki ng pinapatalo nila at parang wala lang din sa kanila tapos ang dami pang mga sasakyan na pag-aari tapos may mga luxury cars pa.

[Peanutswar]

Para sa akin is dapat di sila pwede magsugal kase nga under sila ng name ng government eh possible talaga yan even may funds sila is tho galing nga ito mismo sa bulsa nila pero di natin mapagkakaila kung gaano kapangit yung mga asa government officials natin kung gaano sila kakurakot kaya nga pag dating sa government is meron na tayo agad na stereotype eh na kurakot agad. So dapat if want nila ng mga ganyang casino is wala sila sa pamunuan ng pag sisilbi sa bayan kasi nga sila ung bilang imahe dapat diba ng good governance pero makikita mo nag susugal.

May mali din dito ang casino mismo kasi dapat maging strikto din sila.
Kahit dito sa amin, ang dali makapasok kahit naki gamit lang ako ng CR nila hahaha.

Curious din ako pano ang mga physical casino sa ibang bansa or ibang lugar like pano nila malalaman kung itong taong pumasok ay isang government official?

Medyo mahirap kasi ito eh i mean mas pabor sa mga casino to na mas maraming pera ang papasok sa kanila labas sila kung saan galing basta nag deposit sa kanila tapos ang usapan pwede na sila gumamit agad ng facilities ng caino eh, pero dapat ayun nga ang mangyare is filtering agad sa government doon sila mag linis talaga.

[TravelMug]

Meron na tayong batas dito: Memorandum Circular No. 06, series of 2016, issued by the Office of the President. So talagang bawal yan, kaya gumagawa sila ng fake names para makapasok. Pero hindi parin lumusot at na identify parin sila ng casino.

May nabanggit is Hernandez na na ban daw sila sa Resort Worlds yata, siguro nalaman ng casino na government officials sila kaya na ban. Pero dun sa casino na pinaglaruan nila ng milyones, hindi nga sila nakilala dahil nga sa pekeng driver's license.

Sa ibang bansa o as EU, walang malinaw na batas tungkol sa government officials nilang maglaro. Pero wala rin napabalita masyado na merong naglalaro. Siguro narin sa ethical at moral issues kung makita silang naglalaro hindi katulad sa tin na lantaran talaga tong mga government officials.

Dati nga Presidente eh naglalaro ano pa kaya tong mga corrupt na opisyales.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Do they allow government officials to enter gambling premises?

Aren't government officials citizens like every other regular gamblers? Because they are actually citizens, and deserves the complete right to participate in whatever activities been carried out. Because looking at this from the standard point of whereby I think the main reason why government officials in Philippines are prohibited from gambling, is simply because they gamble with public funds, and as such, If the Philippine government should hold every politicians accountable for every money been assigned to them, with penalties for those who fall victim, I'm pretty sure those politicians will gamble responsibly.

[blockman]

Nakakahiya na hinayaan mangyari ito pero kung hindi din naman mahuhuli at gagawa ng ingay ay baka magtuloy tuloy lang. Okay lang sana kung sariling pera nila ginagamit nila at pinapatalo nila kahit na kawani sila ng gobyerno. Pero yung taga gobyerno na sila tapos pera pa na ninakaw para sana sa flood control projects ay sobra sa kasakiman at kasamaan. Pero sa totoo lang, punta ka lang sa congress madaming sugarol na corrupt doon. Noong sona palang nga ng pangulo, may nagla-livestream ng e-sabong tapos sabay tanggi na hindi daw totoo.

[Russlenat]

They’re already banned, but they just use fake names to get into the casino. I’m pretty sure the casinos already know who they really are since they’re high rollers. But from the casino’s side, they just want the profit and don’t want to risk their business. So even if they know the person, as long as the ID they submitted looks valid and government issued, they still let them gamble. That way, they’re safe.

BTW mga kabayan, mixed na tayo dito ah.. english and tagalog na,. love it.  

@happybitcoinph, to gain more attention, if you like you can move this to gambling discussion board.

[Peanutswar]

Do they allow government officials to enter gambling premises?

Aren't government officials citizens like every other regular gamblers? Because they are actually citizens, and deserves the complete right to participate in whatever activities been carried out. Because looking at this from the standard point of whereby I think the main reason why government officials in Philippines are prohibited from gambling, is simply because they gamble with public funds, and as such, If the Philippine government should hold every politicians accountable for every money been assigned to them, with penalties for those who fall victim, I'm pretty sure those politicians will gamble responsibly.

Pero at the end of the day is asa government pa din sila which is alam naman natin kung gaano dapat tinitingala pag asa officials ka tama?, pero kasi dito sa atin is nangyayari pag government ka matik kurakot yung iba kaya nga yung iba pag na upo sa pwesto makikita mo agad may mga bagong motor, tv, appliances and etc. so itong klaseng mindset is di na maalis sa atin sa pinas kasi nga dahil sa ginagawa na din tlaga ito ng mga tao sa gobyerno so imagine mag tataka ka ang lakas mag sugal pero ang sweldo pag tinignan mo maliit lang so saan nang galing ung funds? parang impossibleng hard earned money naman ito hindi ba?.