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September 15, 2025, 03:12:03 PM
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?
That's what happened, It is common knowledge to know a lot of sports gamblers, referees can manage the game perfectly, But it is necessary to know that not all referees can do that, if caught siding with the risk can be fired or in prison, such a way is done by a professional referee.

The referee in favor of certain teams does not only occur in NBA sports, soccer, boxing and so on also happened, as I said not all matches can be done, only certain tournaments.

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September 15, 2025, 03:15:13 PM
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It's just whining when things don't go our ways. Do you think that those smaller teams will be aware of this and still want to continue in the league when it becomes very obvious that the refs are favouring the big teams? People always complain in every sports when things don't go their way. The refs are there to maintain integrity of the games so I don't believe they favours the so called big teams.

Lol, it makes sense, we can't really know if these things are really happening in sports...just like you said, we might just be getting unlucky with our bets it maybe our favorite team isn't winning and we conclude that that refs might be favoring some big teams...But you should know that not all officials have integrity, some have a price and they can't resist when the money is being offered...Things like this are done silently

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September 15, 2025, 03:18:27 PM
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Noticed how the big teams always seem to get the soft whistles or no-calls when it matters? Like Lakers for instance in the NBA (where Lebron is playing) or, even in local leagues. Sometimes it looks too obvious, like the refs just lean their way cause the league can’t afford for the stars to be out early.

LOL! are you serious?
Since you mentioned the name LeBron. Let's go back to his rookie years and the years he was unstoppable with the Cleveland Cavaliers. I challenge you to watch every game he played and count how many uncalled fouls was there.  
I think you're one of the old school peps who think LeBron can't play in the 90's. Well, let me tell you this. The reason why LeBron flopped so hard in the 2010's because he's so strong that the refs can't even determine whether he is fouled or not. So, LeBron thought, he'd sell every contact that the refs should notice when he attacked the rim.

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September 15, 2025, 03:51:17 PM
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

Yes, in some cases - Some of these major clubs usually have the refs in their pockets, so they get some favours in return.  It is very common in football; SAF won many titles at Manutd with the refs in his pocket.  Grin

Bacelona were caught in referee bribery that went on for decades; you're only a thief when caught. This corrupt practice is still going on.

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September 15, 2025, 04:32:51 PM
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Lol, it makes sense, we can't really know if these things are really happening in sports...just like you said, we might just be getting unlucky with our bets it maybe our favorite team isn't winning and we conclude that that refs might be favoring some big teams...But you should know that not all officials have integrity, some have a price and they can't resist when the money is being offered...Things like this are done silently
Yes, it's very difficult to know the truth because these things are done in complete secrecy. Unfortunately, with money, you can do anything.

I agree with you that not all referees are honest. Some have a price and cannot resist money, so they can easily be bought to change the outcome of a match through biased refereeing. There are many stories about this that have happened in the past and have been exposed in some way.


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September 15, 2025, 04:44:40 PM
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

So what about the underdog teams that manage to win against the favored teams? Not everything we predict based on data can accurately match what we want. To become a referee, they have training, especially for officiating big matches. The selection of referees must be done with those who have good abilities.
I don't think there is referee bias towards certain teams, except in the case of match-fixing practices. Referees should be neutral and officiate the matches fairly.

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September 15, 2025, 04:59:27 PM
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Or maybe that’s just how our brain processes things and what we believe, especially if we bet on the opposite side. Sometimes there are really soft calls or obvious fouls left uncalled that can be unfavorable to us, but there are also calls that go in our favor. We can’t deny there are times when the calls aren’t right, and we can’t do anything about it because nobody’s perfect. We can’t expect complete accuracy in every call of every game, unfortunately, we just have to deal with it whether we like it or not.
That is out of the contest of this discussion although is part of the game fixing mechanism that affects most gamblers, because if the referee have hard the right take on the judgment and awarded appropriate penalties in some games, it will definitely change the face of things around aome of the games that we have around, so we may also include the referee action's and inactions too.

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September 15, 2025, 05:19:03 PM
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Yes, in some cases - Some of these major clubs usually have the refs in their pockets, so they get some favours in return.  It is very common in football; SAF won many titles at Manutd with the refs in his pocket.  Grin

Bacelona were caught in referee bribery that went on for decades; you're only a thief when caught. This corrupt practice is still going on.
Yes, sometimes it doesn't happen based on mutual agreement before the event, some refs might just be a fan of a particular player (like Messi and Cristiano effect) or tend to be biased because he values one side (club) over the other, sports can always be rigged using whatever pattern, most things concerning sports is human effort, even with technology advancement to regulate the sport, whatever the refs calls is direct, he might decide not to use the technology for proper verdict, what he receives after the match is only verbal trolls and nothing much.



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September 15, 2025, 06:46:56 PM
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

Yes, in some cases - Some of these major clubs usually have the refs in their pockets, so they get some favours in return.  It is very common in football; SAF won many titles at Manutd with the refs in his pocket.  Grin

Bacelona were caught in referee bribery that went on for decades; you're only a thief when caught. This corrupt practice is still going on.

I believe that in all sports referees often misbehave sometimes even blatantly favoring the big teams. Despite the players and coaches training hard, the outcome is determined solely by the referee's incompetent leadership. Sometimes after being reprimanded, referees excuse themselves by using classicism as an excuse. Referees are also imperfect human beings when it comes to making decisions. However, if mistakes consistently occur and benefit the big teams, it's a sign the referee is deliberately favoring the big teams.

For example, the example you gave of Manchester United during the SAF era and Barcelona a few years ago clearly favored them. Many decisions favored the big teams, which contributed to their success. I sometimes think this kind of referee bias is systematic, both by the organizers and the referees. They must favor the big teams to keep the sport interesting to watch.

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Depending on the league and their strict rules, as a matter of fact a lot of refs lose their job as a result of partiality whenever the authorities finds out. This is not about big or small teams, big and small teams are all equal basically anyone can win so what’s the point identifying a team as small, our thought always tells us to go for big teams and when something wrong happens we blame it on the refs, coach, player etc likewise betting in favour of small teams. This is general, personally I also feel this way whenever my club play and the ref give judgement against my club even when my team is not right.

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I know the rules are more flexible in the NBA, even though they are. Perhaps the referees could be a little more considerate of big stars like LeBron James. I know that referees never officiate games flawlessly. Some referees might be biased, but I suspect there could be reasons for this. It could be fan pressure, sympathy for the player, or other factors. When it comes to human decisions, there are many variables involved.


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Speaking about basketball in particular, if ref close his eye once in a game and one team gets +2 points, that isnt much of a life changing mistake, because both teams score or try to score every 24 seconds. If its a sport where there are usually not so many moments to score, football for example, one mistake or wrong judging will have a huge impact on an outcome. I dont think usually refs are on big team side when score or goal is on stake. They might be in a little favor of a favorite or big team when its a free kick, free throw or in something that is a little.

 
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Noticed how the big teams always seem to get the soft whistles or no-calls when it matters? Like Lakers for instance in the NBA (where Lebron is playing) or, even in local leagues. Sometimes it looks too obvious, like the refs just lean their way cause the league can’t afford for the stars to be out early.

In betting it shows up too, lines always tilt toward the popular teams, everybody throws money on them, then the calls on the floor somehow match up.

Hard to tell if it’s chance or the system really keeping them

Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

Sports fans will always complain about the referees acting in favor of one team or another. Usually the big and rich teams get tolerated the most by the referees. Are the referees being bribed by the big teams? We will never know for sure. Such connections are kept secret and nobody would sacrifice his career and standard of living in order to reveal them. There's big money involved and most people would keep their mouths shut.
I'm not a basketball fan and I don't think that the referees have such a big influence over the outcome of basketball games. There are other other sports(like football), where the referees can have a huge impact over the outcome of the game.

 
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

Yes, in some cases - Some of these major clubs usually have the refs in their pockets, so they get some favours in return.  It is very common in football; SAF won many titles at Manutd with the refs in his pocket.  Grin

Bacelona were caught in referee bribery that went on for decades; you're only a thief when caught. This corrupt practice is still going on.

That's just it. It happens always in football. Real Madrid's case is very clear and so many other clubs. Even in England, the likes of Manchester United and their rival, Manchester city,  it has always been going on, and even fans can confirm it. It's very annoying when you see a big team not been punished for what the team they are playing against or any other smaller team would be punished for.

Some of these teams have bought them over already, while in some cases, the Reff just favours a bigger team for love or unknown pressure within.

Even though a team or the fan base can be whining when things don't go there way, we know that feelings so much, but  favouritism our of bribery and the likes is a reality in the world of sports generally
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Well, I don't thank it's just towards the big team but it's always about any team that they want to favour, that's the team they will go soft on but for the opposite team that they are not siding, they will go hard on them with every little chance they get. I have talked about it before but was told that it's just my thoughts towards how I expected things to go but the ref is always correct and doing their job well. In as much as am not convinced, I can not do anything but I feel that the ref is being partial most of the times.

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September 17, 2025, 01:11:13 PM
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Noticed how the big teams always seem to get the soft whistles or no-calls when it matters? Like Lakers for instance in the NBA (where Lebron is playing) or, even in local leagues. Sometimes it looks too obvious, like the refs just lean their way cause the league can’t afford for the stars to be out early.

LOL! are you serious?
Since you mentioned the name LeBron. Let's go back to his rookie years and the years he was unstoppable with the Cleveland Cavaliers. I challenge you to watch every game he played and count how many uncalled fouls was there.  
I think you're one of the old school peps who think LeBron can't play in the 90's. Well, let me tell you this. The reason why LeBron flopped so hard in the 2010's because he's so strong that the refs can't even determine whether he is fouled or not. So, LeBron thought, he'd sell every contact that the refs should notice when he attacked the rim.

Well, that's part of the game now. Flopping. I agree with you that many foul calls were not called during his early years. He is so strong, aggressive, big, and young, so there will always be contact whenever he attacks.
Referees, on the other hand, will get used to that kind of game from players, and this is where it goes wrong. They won't call if the player will not complain the first time a contact happened and no one reacted without a whistle. Since Lebron was young, those days, he didn't complain much. But when he learned the system, that's how he knew how to take advantage of his aggressiveness by adding some acting to it.
These guys are pros. They study everything to be better in the game. Even Jordan and Kobe check the referees first and study them for their advantage.

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September 17, 2025, 01:19:31 PM
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Do you think refs really tilt toward the big teams, or are we just whining when things don’t go our way?

Yes, in some cases - Some of these major clubs usually have the refs in their pockets, so they get some favours in return.  It is very common in football; SAF won many titles at Manutd with the refs in his pocket.  Grin

Bacelona were caught in referee bribery that went on for decades; you're only a thief when caught. This corrupt practice is still going on.
That’s the kind of evidence that makes people say the league is rigged, but the league will always respond with “we’ll investigate” and claim they don’t tolerate it. Even if there’s speculation that the instructions are coming from higher up, it’s hard to prove. The refs end up as the fall guys. The real masterminds won’t get caught as long as they’re in place they can just replace the ref and keep doing the same thing over and over.

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That’s the kind of evidence that makes people say the league is rigged, but the league will always respond with “we’ll investigate” and claim they don’t tolerate it. Even if there’s speculation that the instructions are coming from higher up, it’s hard to prove. The refs end up as the fall guys. The real masterminds won’t get caught as long as they’re in place they can just replace the ref and keep doing the same thing over and over.

It's difficult to predict how a referee will act in each case. On the field, they're under pressure from fans and can make mistakes. But in reality, there are several referees responsible for VAR, and the main referee makes the decision. So, I'd rule out the possibility of error, although, as we see, there are often complaints and disputes about decisions. This means that referees can also make mistakes, either accidentally or intentionally if they have a bias toward one team or another.

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That’s the kind of evidence that makes people say the league is rigged, but the league will always respond with “we’ll investigate” and claim they don’t tolerate it. Even if there’s speculation that the instructions are coming from higher up, it’s hard to prove. The refs end up as the fall guys. The real masterminds won’t get caught as long as they’re in place they can just replace the ref and keep doing the same thing over and over.

It's difficult to predict how a referee will act in each case. On the field, they're under pressure from fans and can make mistakes. But in reality, there are several referees responsible for VAR, and the main referee makes the decision. So, I'd rule out the possibility of error, although, as we see, there are often complaints and disputes about decisions. This means that referees can also make mistakes, either accidentally or intentionally if they have a bias toward one team or another.
Mistakes are normal, but there are big calls that change the whole complexion of the game, and there are obvious calls and non-calls that you just can’t miss. In basketball you’ve got three referees on the floor, so it’s hard to believe they’d all miss the same thing - especially when there’s already a review system in place.

They can’t really deny it either, because millions of fans are watching while they’re the ones officiating.

That’s why we’ve got a valid reason to suspect there’s really something off going on.

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Depending on the league and their strict rules, as a matter of fact a lot of refs lose their job as a result of partiality whenever the authorities finds out. This is not about big or small teams, big and small teams are all equal basically anyone can win so what’s the point identifying a team as small, our thought always tells us to go for big teams and when something wrong happens we blame it on the refs, coach, player etc likewise betting in favour of small teams. This is general, personally I also feel this way whenever my club play and the ref give judgement against my club even when my team is not right.
Nothing more. It the ref cheats on the game there is a higher chance that the ref will lose his reputation and his job. Although there are cases whereby refs and other players cheats on the game but nothing happens because it was obvious. In football, there's a reason why they have VAR. If the ref don't understand what to do or wasn't sure of what happened, he just have to check for VAR to decide.

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