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November 18, 2025, 03:08:45 PM
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In my opinion, it depends on their intentions and desires too, if for example they do not have a strong intention to change their life situation for the better such as in terms of finances then there will definitely never be any change and so on they will only take actions and decisions that are useful only to be able to breathe and not to achieve freedom, in my opinion this actually depends on the intentions and choices of each individual, if for example someone really wants to achieve financial freedom then their efforts will definitely be harder.
People want financial freedom, but they don't want to put in the effort. Working harder inevitably requires sacrifice, and fatigue is the price to pay. I'm sure everyone has the intention, but the problem is that some strive to achieve their goals, while others don't. Life must be realistic, because we can't become rich by relying on luck.

Another problem is that people often look for someone to blame. For example, if someone is successful, they look for what made them successful. For example, they have the support of a financially stable family. They usually use that as an excuse, rather than reflecting on themselves.
I think when you have a salary you should not buy costly food like we should not go to the restaurants which are not of our standard and we should save money more when we have money from the salary or by any business. If you are an employee of any company this company has power to fire you and you should save some money for that kind of money as we saw in the COVID when many jobs were ended and Mangy of people have to search for the new job . You could face difficult time and if you have a valuable degree you will be able to get good income in your area and you need skills with the degree.
Don't see that people who are above from you because this thinking could give you depression and if you will see down then you are lucky person and enjoy your life and facilities of life .

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November 18, 2025, 03:35:38 PM
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There is no easy way to become rich, in fact the reality that occurs in society is that there are still two social statuses "Rich and Poor". Rich people will continue to try to increase their wealth, most of them succeed in doing so because of the support of resources and they also make money by using money. While poor people will continue to struggle to become rich by working hard and exercising self-control in managing their finances, these efforts are not the determining factors for wealth.

Avoiding unnecessary purchases and limiting yourself to basic necessities is a wise step in managing finances when income is stagnant, but all these efforts are not a guarantee of achieving wealth. A balanced lifestyle of self-control and increased income can help increase the chances of achieving wealth, but it needs to be supported by increasing income and investing money in assets that have the potential to increase in value.
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November 18, 2025, 05:00:43 PM
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Your self control in such situation is sacrifice, how long will someone want to stay in a job that is not paying well, why i said your self control should be sacrifice is because you have to sacrifice your money and time for finacial freedom, find a way to go out of depending on someone to earn salary or you can simply find another job with higher salary. If your not qualified enough sacrifice to further your education to get you qualified, or you sacrifice to start a bussiness or to learn a digital skill, you can choose to stay like that with your job just saving money or you can choose to sacrifice something to get something better the choice is yours.
After getting another job or increasing your income what next? Will you be able to succeed with just your new job without self control? Like not having the ability in controlling your demands. Self control is really an important factor when it comes finance. If you are unable to control yourself, no matter the amount of your money you earn from your job it will be so difficult for you to save  some money for yourself.  Self control is everything when it comes to money, this means you only go for things that important and needed. Self control can only be gained by discipline and it is a sacrifice with great value at the end.

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November 18, 2025, 05:18:18 PM
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Your self control in such situation is sacrifice, how long will someone want to stay in a job that is not paying well, why i said your self control should be sacrifice is because you have to sacrifice your money and time for finacial freedom, find a way to go out of depending on someone to earn salary or you can simply find another job with higher salary. If your not qualified enough sacrifice to further your education to get you qualified, or you sacrifice to start a bussiness or to learn a digital skill, you can choose to stay like that with your job just saving money or you can choose to sacrifice something to get something better the choice is yours.
After getting another job or increasing your income what next? Will you be able to succeed with just your new job without self control? Like not having the ability in controlling your demands. Self control is really an important factor when it comes finance. If you are unable to control yourself, no matter the amount of your money you earn from your job it will be so difficult for you to save  some money for yourself.  Self control is everything when it comes to money, this means you only go for things that important and needed. Self control can only be gained by discipline and it is a sacrifice with great value at the end.
Whatever your income is, nothing is possible without proper management. At the moment your income is low, due to which you are not able to save or invest money, but later you create another source of income, but at that time if your unnecessary expenses increase further, then despite the increase in your income, you will not be able to start any savings as before. As people's income increases, their needs and expenses also increase, and management is needed to control this, and with management, it is possible to save even with a small income.

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November 18, 2025, 06:47:41 PM
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Your self control in such situation is sacrifice, how long will someone want to stay in a job that is not paying well, why i said your self control should be sacrifice is because you have to sacrifice your money and time for finacial freedom, find a way to go out of depending on someone to earn salary or you can simply find another job with higher salary. If your not qualified enough sacrifice to further your education to get you qualified, or you sacrifice to start a bussiness or to learn a digital skill, you can choose to stay like that with your job just saving money or you can choose to sacrifice something to get something better the choice is yours.
Your point about self-control being a form of sacrifice is very true because when we doing a job that doesn't pay well its not  meaning that they give us low income its actual meaning that we sacrifices our time, energy and opportunities and we compromise with low income because we don't make sense to lead us to do something better for us. In present time single or low salary is not always sufficient to meet our needs so we need to learn some digital skills and some other skills that help us to get more money so get financial freedom. So the learning point is that we have two options , stay and keep saving slowly and the other option is to sacrifice ourselves to built a better opportunities for us.

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is self control enough in this economy?

in order to save money, is it enough to just prevent oneself from buying things unnecessary or limit ourselves to only what is needed to survive? is this a way to live? is there no other easy way aside from earning so much?

sometimes i feel like even with utmost self control you still don’t end up getting rich due to expensive prices and lack of salary in general

Self discipline is what you mean, I think. Everyone controls their self. Not everyone has learned discipline.

Lack of salary? Why depend only on a salary in a world where you are free to make money with anything? There are girls selling bathwater and guys posting with an ad in their signature on the Bitcointalk forum for a weekly pay. There are many different ways to make some extra money.

If you lack self discipline of course you are going to lose all your money everytime a new I-Phone comes out.  Cheesy
You’re right about not depending only on one salary. The way things are now, relying on just one source of income is like putting all your weight on a thin branch knowing it can break anytime. But what I’ve also noticed is that self discipline is not only about avoiding unnecessary spending, it’s is also about training yourself to take opportunities when they appear.

Some people say they have self control, but when it comes to learning a new skill or trying a side hustle, they lose that discipline completely. They can actually resist buying an iPhone, but they can not discipline themselves to stick to a plan that will improve their income in the long run.

So I think self control has two sides: Avoiding things that drain your money, and Pushing yourself into things that grow your money.

If someone only practices the first part but ignores the second part, they still end up stuck. That is why even with good discipline, people still don’t improve sometimes, they only control their spending, but not their growth.
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November 18, 2025, 09:57:48 PM
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There is no easy way to become rich
There is but very rare that can happen to every individual, winning the lottery and by inheriting riches.

Avoiding unnecessary purchases and limiting yourself to basic necessities is a wise step in managing finances when income is stagnant, but all these efforts are not a guarantee of achieving wealth. A balanced lifestyle of self-control and increased income can help increase the chances of achieving wealth, but it needs to be supported by increasing income and investing money in assets that have the potential to increase in value.
It's hard to do this on these days. Because the society are being pushed for everyone to purchase unusual things, the goods that we don't need for them to be part of the movement that they want to be. But someone who's living frugally and understands that these nonsense is only going to cost them money, they have understood that it's needed to be practiced for them to have a better management if ever they're able to save up huge money or profited from a larger investment that they have worked on.

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November 18, 2025, 10:17:49 PM
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There's no other way to survive than to control yourself, by only buying what you really need, not what you want.

Life is tough, but that's the way it is. That's what happens when you only earn enough to keep yourself alive.

But that doesn't mean you should sit back and lament your fate, because others, perhaps even your own family, won't care about you. Therefore, in addition to controlling yourself and using your money wisely, you also need new opportunities to increase your income and then invest it regularly, because otherwise, you will continue to be eaten away by inflation. Wink
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November 18, 2025, 10:31:26 PM
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There is no easy way to become rich, in fact the reality that occurs in society is that there are still two social statuses "Rich and Poor". Rich people will continue to try to increase their wealth, most of them succeed in doing so because of the support of resources and they also make money by using money. While poor people will continue to struggle to become rich by working hard and exercising self-control in managing their finances, these efforts are not the determining factors for wealth.

Avoiding unnecessary purchases and limiting yourself to basic necessities is a wise step in managing finances when income is stagnant, but all these efforts are not a guarantee of achieving wealth. A balanced lifestyle of self-control and increased income can help increase the chances of achieving wealth, but it needs to be supported by increasing income and investing money in assets that have the potential to increase in value.

Achieving wealth is not that easy. The things you mentioned, like avoiding unnecessary expenses or limiting yourself to only the basic necessities, these things can only allow a person to have more balance in their financial management, and might even allow them to save some money along the way, but savings can't make you wealthy. However, if a person can constantly save money for a good number of years, and then use the saved amount to either start a business or make some effective investments, over time, they might be able to make wealth through that.

One thing should be understood, wealth can only be made if you have either have a successful business, investments making you constant profits, a job that earns you way more than you need for your expenses, or another source of income where you basically make a lot of money and need only a small portion of that for your expenses. If you have any of these things, then your chances of becoming wealthy are bright, but if you are only managing your finances by cutting expenses, etc., then you should know that you are not going to become wealthy, at least not very soon. Smiley
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November 19, 2025, 10:11:15 AM
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Your self control in such situation is sacrifice, how long will someone want to stay in a job that is not paying well, why i said your self control should be sacrifice is because you have to sacrifice your money and time for finacial freedom, find a way to go out of depending on someone to earn salary or you can simply find another job with higher salary. If your not qualified enough sacrifice to further your education to get you qualified, or you sacrifice to start a bussiness or to learn a digital skill, you can choose to stay like that with your job just saving money or you can choose to sacrifice something to get something better the choice is yours.
After getting another job or increasing your income what next? Will you be able to succeed with just your new job without self control? Like not having the ability in controlling your demands. Self control is really an important factor when it comes finance. If you are unable to control yourself, no matter the amount of your money you earn from your job it will be so difficult for you to save  some money for yourself.  Self control is everything when it comes to money, this means you only go for things that important and needed. Self control can only be gained by discipline and it is a sacrifice with great value at the end.
It all comes down to a person's level of satisfaction. If someone is greedy, they will never be satisfied with anything they achieve.
In essence, self-control is simply self-control in all things and we shouldn't overestimate it because whatever we do now will impact us in the future. For example, self-control in financial matters will certainly benefit us in the future. So, I believe it all comes down to ourselves and for ourselves.

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November 19, 2025, 10:29:13 AM
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Don't be the kind of person that would be stingy to himself because if one kicks the bucket, your money will be spent by your next of kin who barely understood what you've been through to save up. Just be free with your savings and do what matters. Earn and save a little, spend money on your self because you earned it. We only have one life to live
I love how you addressed that next of kin part and one's stinginess to oneself. Sometimes, people die from little things they could solve early enough if they made it an emergency by spending to take care of themselves. I know a few persons who actually were wealthy but couldn't leave comfortable life because they were often investing in properties and all that. They died and the kids fought over their properties. I find it funny when people fight over what isn't theirs by purchase. It strips one of dignity. I like to buy and own my stuff, not something bequeathed.

Your advice is tenable. People should find out time to enjoy what they labour for, and not save when it's going to affect their health or wellbeing.

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November 19, 2025, 10:40:06 AM
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In my opinion, it depends on their intentions and desires too, if for example they do not have a strong intention to change their life situation for the better such as in terms of finances then there will definitely never be any change and so on they will only take actions and decisions that are useful only to be able to breathe and not to achieve freedom, in my opinion this actually depends on the intentions and choices of each individual, if for example someone really wants to achieve financial freedom then their efforts will definitely be harder.
People want financial freedom, but they don't want to put in the effort. Working harder inevitably requires sacrifice, and fatigue is the price to pay. I'm sure everyone has the intention, but the problem is that some strive to achieve their goals, while others don't. Life must be realistic, because we can't become rich by relying on luck.

Another problem is that people often look for someone to blame. For example, if someone is successful, they look for what made them successful. For example, they have the support of a financially stable family. They usually use that as an excuse, rather than reflecting on themselves.
I think when you have a salary you should not buy costly food like we should not go to the restaurants which are not of our standard and we should save money more when we have money from the salary or by any business. If you are an employee of any company this company has power to fire you and you should save some money for that kind of money as we saw in the COVID when many jobs were ended and Mangy of people have to search for the new job . You could face difficult time and if you have a valuable degree you will be able to get good income in your area and you need skills with the degree.
Don't see that people who are above from you because this thinking could give you depression and if you will see down then you are lucky person and enjoy your life and facilities of life .

Having self-control can greatly help us become successful in achieving what we want in life. Because when someone has this, we also get to practice what is called proper management
of the money we use.

And perhaps we should also be risk takers, because I haven't seen anyone become successful or prosper in their lives who didn't decide to be a risk taker, and along with this,
they also apply risk management which they know how to do as well.

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November 19, 2025, 12:54:30 PM
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Having self-control can greatly help us become successful in achieving what we want in life. Because when someone has this, we also get to practice what is called proper management
of the money we use.

And perhaps we should also be risk takers, because I haven't seen anyone become successful or prosper in their lives who didn't decide to be a risk taker, and along with this,
they also apply risk management which they know how to do as well.

This things you just highlighted is very important especially for those who are trying to be successful, I'm sure that those folks who are successful today also follow this process. And one thing that need to be giving much of our intention among everything you just said here is risk taking. There are some people who had the opportunity to be successful by just taking a risk but they turn everything down due to the fact that they are not sure about the outcome, some people always wait to have a prove before taking any risk that is why they usually end up making a late entry. And truly it's good to apply risk management in whatever thing we are doing more especially when we see that our chance of becoming successful in that particular stuff is not certain.


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November 20, 2025, 07:14:42 AM
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Having self-control can greatly help us become successful in achieving what we want in life. Because when someone has this, we also get to practice what is called proper management
of the money we use.

And perhaps we should also be risk takers, because I haven't seen anyone become successful or prosper in their lives who didn't decide to be a risk taker, and along with this,
they also apply risk management which they know how to do as well.

This things you just highlighted is very important especially for those who are trying to be successful, I'm sure that those folks who are successful today also follow this process. And one thing that need to be giving much of our intention among everything you just said here is risk taking. There are some people who had the opportunity to be successful by just taking a risk but they turn everything down due to the fact that they are not sure about the outcome, some people always wait to have a prove before taking any risk that is why they usually end up making a late entry. And truly it's good to apply risk management in whatever thing we are doing more especially when we see that our chance of becoming successful in that particular stuff is not certain.
The process of becoming successful is a long one, experiencing many failures until finally being able to bounce back and succeed. Discipline and continuously learning from mistakes are determining factors in success. It also requires a recklessness factor, including taking big risks, to achieve great success, because we start from the bottom. However, after making a profit, the next step is to save wisely, storing some of your assets for future wealth. I've read several biographies of truly wealthy people who were successful in saving and being frugal when they were young, and then enjoying the results in old age.
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November 20, 2025, 10:14:03 AM
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It all comes down to a person's level of satisfaction. If someone is greedy, they will never be satisfied with anything they achieve.
In essence, self-control is simply self-control in all things and we shouldn't overestimate it because whatever we do now will impact us in the future. For example, self-control in financial matters will certainly benefit us in the future. So, I believe it all comes down to ourselves and for ourselves.
Self control is indeed a necessity for everyone if they’re to make progress in their endeavors, whether it’s their financial life or every other aspect of their lives. Self control prevents us from making certain mistakes, especially when we couple it with discipline.

Of course anything we do today is an investment in the future, if we make good choices today, we’ll definitely get good results in the future, same with when we make bad choices. Which is why it’s important to have self control because it’s one of the qualities that makes a successful life.

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November 20, 2025, 10:17:51 AM
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This things you just highlighted is very important especially for those who are trying to be successful, I'm sure that those folks who are successful today also follow this process. And one thing that need to be giving much of our intention among everything you just said here is risk taking. There are some people who had the opportunity to be successful by just taking a risk but they turn everything down due to the fact that they are not sure about the outcome, some people always wait to have a prove before taking any risk that is why they usually end up making a late entry. And truly it's good to apply risk management in whatever thing we are doing more especially when we see that our chance of becoming successful in that particular stuff is not certain.
The process of becoming successful is a long one, experiencing many failures until finally being able to bounce back and succeed. Discipline and continuously learning from mistakes are determining factors in success. It also requires a recklessness factor, including taking big risks, to achieve great success, because we start from the bottom. However, after making a profit, the next step is to save wisely, storing some of your assets for future wealth. I've read several biographies of truly wealthy people who were successful in saving and being frugal when they were young, and then enjoying the results in old age.
It's a very long process. If we're lucky, it won't take a long time. However, building success doesn't take a month or two; it could take years. Unless we continue what we've already built, namely continuing our parents' business.
Self-control plays a major role in achieving success, patience and discipline are a powerful combination. We may need luck, but from what I've heard and understood, if we've prepared everything, we can create it, and I believe that.
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November 20, 2025, 10:20:25 AM
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It all comes down to a person's level of satisfaction. If someone is greedy, they will never be satisfied with anything they achieve.
In essence, self-control is simply self-control in all things and we shouldn't overestimate it because whatever we do now will impact us in the future. For example, self-control in financial matters will certainly benefit us in the future. So, I believe it all comes down to ourselves and for ourselves.
Self-control is an absolute necessity, consciously exercised, and only applied to certain areas, such as spending and excessive consumption. Excessive consumption of things like food and clothing will not produce anything good for us because it is wasteful, so it still needs to be controlled, just like we control our daily spending. As for other things, like studying and striving to improve through work, I believe these don't need to be controlled in such detail, although we still need to manage our time.
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November 20, 2025, 11:37:50 AM
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I believe that we should always have a clear picture of how we want our life to look and a clear action plan for achieving the desired results. If we want to look good, then we need to take care of our nutrition, physical activity, stress levels, and rest. If we want to build healthy relationships, we must study how mature, comfortable relationships are formed for all participants. If we want to earn well, we again need to learn and take action in that direction.To coordinate everything and move in the right direction, we need a clear plan that helps us stay on track and maintain control, so we end up where we want to be, not just where life randomly takes us. I try to follow a certain strategy, but some areas in my life occasionally suffer, which naturally affects the results. But as they say, we are all human, not computers, and no matter what, having a clear vision of what I want will eventually guide me to the right path. The main thing is to keep moving forward, and to bring to automatism the actions that move us forward — this is what self control truly is.


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November 20, 2025, 06:31:04 PM
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Self control is important and it can help you save money and avoid spending unnecessarily but why limit Self control to just saving money when thats clearly not enough to keep anyone triving in this economic situation. When you practice Self control you can channel that same discipline into building an investment for yourself, when you save you only keep money to spend later on in the future but eventually you are still going to spend the money. What's actually  very important is putting your money into investments to create a source of income

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November 21, 2025, 05:45:45 PM
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Self control is important and it can help you save money and avoid spending unnecessarily but why limit Self control to just saving money when thats clearly not enough to keep anyone triving in this economic situation. When you practice Self control you can channel that same discipline into building an investment for yourself, when you save you only keep money to spend later on in the future but eventually you are still going to spend the money. What's actually  very important is putting your money into investments to create a source of income
It's true that avoiding unnecessary expenses is crucial to keep our savings growing. However, when we decide to invest with our savings, we must prepare beforehand to ensure that the savings we use for investment yield good results and continue to perform well. Without preparation, it's highly unlikely that it will perform well and likely won't last long. Therefore, it's crucial to choose the right investment idea and understand it well so that we can generate profits from the investment we undertake.

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