What's the best way for a Newbie to join conversation?

[avp2306]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Maybe just going on right threads or sections which you know the topic discuss is really better. Since if you push yourself to participate on a thread without adding context or any helpful and relevant relevant opinions then most like that you will get negative impressions from people here.

So don't get afraid and explore because if you learn and able to provide more informative replies and could able to help other people then they might get more better career here.

Also OP should not pay attention on what happen to those newbies, but rather its best for him to focus on his personal growth.

[Cryptohygenic]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

If you must know, one of the criterias that may drag such attention or I should call it accused is because the level of experience such users showcase in the forum in their "just" coming to the forum can only be ascended by AI or experienced users of the forum.
There is a big difference from being experienced about bitcoin or cryptos and the rest before joining the forum BUT nomatter how brilliant you maybe, navigating the forum as a newbie "Must" take some process but you will see those claimed newbie users proving more learned than some experienced users who had even built reputation in the forum.
                                                       
It is as how worried I am to learn you have been here since 2022 and you have just 2 post made recently since date of your registration you have stil been a newbie. I don't want to talk about the "0" merits because I understand how difficult it is to earn merits based on quality posts requirement but yet, you claim to have been here for a while. So why such circumstances as you have aired out not be assumed to be an experience users hiding behind newbies account.
                                               

[Comeacross]

I assume you're talking about this account?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3691031

But you should understand that in this case, I meant that the user flagrantly violated the forum rules by registering another account after the first account was completely banned.

Not actually. But I Just checked through the link now and it's entirely a different case since he admitted being old member who's account got banned. It's a deserving tag by the way.

It's quite unsettling to see a newbie who claims to be completely ignorant of the forum's activities or Bitcoin itself (for example) only to start giving out instructions in the next post or posting in threads where merits are often given. To avoid being labeled a liar, you need to live up to your claims from the start.

Lol, this is also a different case because you can't claim to be seeking for knowledge today and start teaching about that same knowledge the next minutes. I have seen such cases too and their previous posts where they claimed to know nothing about bitcoin being digged out to show they're lying. These are understandable scenarios but I have also come across many threads where newbies are being criticised for trying to offer helpful discussions in their threads instead of learning first. People mostly assume that newbie account is tantamount to newbie in this crypto industry and they have nothing to offer.

[Cryptomultiplier]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

The best way to join a conversation is first to read. Understand the point of the writer, study the comments of others and then make yours. You must of course do your own research to be better because the easiest way to know a newbie here is by your organization, vocabulary.
Newbies easily show their shallow knowledge of the forum in their context and the lack of knowledge of this forum's operating guidelines is clearly evident when they approach any topic or conversation and that's a fact.

[B-BossMan]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Very good, Op. I was also in a bit of confusion when I started this forum, thinking that maybe once your thread isn't valuable, you will be tagged. Even before I started posting here, at first, I was afraid of posting something that wouldn't be valuable to the forum so that I wouldn't be tagged here, because I noticed that once your account is being tagged, to me, you have no value in this forum; as such, no one will ever trust you again. So luckily then, I began reading all the pinned threads one after the other on each board I entered to understand how everything is being carried out in this forum, and by doing that, I abide by all the rules and regulations of the forum. That's how I was able to reach where I am today. I am happy for that.

However, looking for where to discuss or what to discuss is not a big issue; you are at the right place here. Trust me, you will be knowledgeable with due time. Firstly, check the subject matter; understanding the topic alone gives you a hint. Then read the thread to know if it's aligned with the topic. Understand the thread, and then when you know, you will be able to say something based on what you have read, or you will be able to provide solutions/answers to that particular thread; then you can chip in.

Issue of some users being tagged: there are numerous offensives acts that lead to that:
>it's either the user violated the rules and regulations of the forum.
>if user claimed to share false information(a lier)
>if user claimed to be smarter by using an alternative account to scam the innocent users here.
> share unnecessarily links
> plagiarism and so on.

[Rockstarguy]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

If there is important information you have to share that will benefit forum members, you don't need to keep it to yourself. One of the purposes of the forum is to discuss and for members to learn from every discussion. The reason why the forum takes down some posts is that these are posts that lack content and add no value to forum members. Come with good discussions, and forum members will find it very interesting to discuss. Before engaging in conversations on the forum, you need to examine yourself first to see if what you want to contribute will make sense.

[andywolfer]

Best way is just to join discussions naturally. Read, learn, and add your thoughts where you can. No need to announce you’re new or hide what you know. As long as your posts add value and aren’t spam or copy/paste, you’ll be fine no matter the tag.

[Hardyrobust]

As a newbie the first thing you need do before you start making post is to familiarise your self with the forum. You need to know the forum rules and regulations in other not to faulter  . Newbie should focus more on learning than contributing, the best board for a newbie to begin with is beginners and help section and local board . There are thread in which a newbie will contribute to the on going discussion and they maybe tag , the reason being that it is really suspicious for a newbie to have such knowledge or information . To avoid such as a newbie focus on only board you have knowledge about and can easily contribute meaningfully there.

[tech30338]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

First thing is you need to know what is the topic is all about, since everyone who join the convesation on the topic knows it, or maybe have info about what is being ask, i suggest research about the topic so that you will be able to contribute, and be in the conversation, you can also ask if you don't understand it totally, everyone is happy to help in this forum, so good luck and we hope to see a post from you.

[Mrbluntzy]

It's due to the many irrelevant threads that some newbies creates and spread lies or low value post and also pretend to be newbies that makes them get tag but there must be a valid reason that devers tagging before you see a DT member tagging a newbie account, otherwise it will be an abuse of the DTship. There's no special way to join or start a conversation on this forum, but what you writing should be a valuable contribution and not some low value topics. Read, learn from the comments of others or thread and then write when you have a good contribution to add and when you have a right question to ask for further explanation of any topic of interest.

[letteredhub]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

Do well to share useful informations to the forum whenever you have it as the forum don't have issues with any user doing that except you're sharing unnecessary informations, phishing links and getting off topics with discussions. What makes older members in the forum suspects a newbie not to be a newbie is due to certain informations about the forum that on a normal a newbie with just weeks to the forum couldn't have known but they talk about it as though they have been here for a very long time.

[Cookdata]

As a newbie the first thing you need do before you start making post is to familiarise your self with the forum. You need to know the forum rules and regulations in other not to faulter  . Newbie should focus more on learning than contributing, the best board for a newbie to begin with is beginners and help section and local board . There are thread in which a newbie will contribute to the on going discussion and they maybe tag , the reason being that it is really suspicious for a newbie to have such knowledge or information . To avoid such as a newbie focus on only board you have knowledge about and can easily contribute meaningfully there.

Not every Newbie is a new to the forum. There are people in the forum that has alternative accounts as newbie. Sometimes, people create a new account to hide their identity or when they have something to say but know it's going to affect their relationship in the forum with the rest of the users, they create a new account and do what what they want, so the forum newbies don't really need to focus on new things on the forum, they can focus on anything they want as long the abide by forum rules and regulations.

If you are legit person, you don't have to hide under anything, just focus on what you want to do on the forum. There are newbies that are registered in the forum since merit system were introduced, they have earned merit of a full member but there activities isn't close to that of a junior member because they don't post. They make one contribution to the forum in a blue moon and that's it and they are doing fine. If you are here a newbie to learn, don't hesitate and if you are to contribute, don't hesitate.

[Abdulzuruku01]

I have been around this forum for a while now and I noticed the controversies surrounding newbies and their posts. I know it's unnecessary making a posts announcing that you joined the forum. I noticed some posts getting moved/deleted for not adding any value to the forum or for being a repetition of previous threads. Mind you, majority of these deleted threads are from newbies.

On the other hand, I see some newbies account with a tag saying "this user is not a newbie but someone who is familiar with the forum is behind the account". Most of the time, this tags evolved as a result of what they posted on the forum and people feel they don't suppose to know all these simply because they are newbies.

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

As a newbie, before you start posting, it's good to read the forum rules so you know what actions can result in punishment.Your account won't be tagged if you don't break any forum rules, and if people are hiding their information they have as you mentioned, I doubt we'll learn anything here. Some newbies have offered their best knowledge, which has helped a lot. The best way to engage in discussions here is to read the topic thoroughly before you make any contributions, and if you still don't understand anything, try reading the replies of others and do further research.

[Mhizlove]

The perfect way for any newbie to be part of a conversation is to stay genuine and start small, pay attention always, understand how the discussion is and mostly what it is about and what others are saying.
Then you can add your thoughts politely on how the discussion is going on the forum, ask simple questions or you share your own experience,. You don't need to sound good just be respectful and open minded because people acknowledges sincerity more than people who are experienced and with time as you take part more often you'll naturally feel more confident and comfortable.

[DYING_S0UL]

Not sure whether it's the best way but I'll say probably choosing topics of their interest. Because this way the convo would be more natural, convincing, geniune, not something like forced talk. For example, if someone has interest/experience with programming, he can easily join convo related to these, like technical stuff, tools etc. But if they don't know a thing about trading, do you thing they'll be able to keep up with the discussion? I don't thibk so...just my own perspective. 

[Japinat]

There’s no issue if newbies would want to take part in the forum and start creating threads. The problem is, if they resort creating threads that aren’t relevant to bitcointalk, or those low-quality topics, or even those repetitive topics that the rest of members are already sick of it giving the same replies to OP.

For newbies, know when to create a thread, that’s something you can leave an impact to the members, and that’s something everyone can learn and benefit. And know when not to post, when you’re not knowledgeable about the topic, or when you are just trying to post only for merit fishing, that should always be avoided so as to prevent getting kick out from the forum if done consistently.

[As-Soon-As]

There are moderators and DT members to consider the judgment in this forum, they are very experienced and experts, it is very easy to find any topic. No one can survive by stealing in this forum, everyone is welcome to the forum, there is no obstacle in this. If someone tries to hide information and create new sentences, then surely DT members will tag all those people.
Honesty is the best way.

[Davidvictorson]

Now, I ask to know which way is the best to join conversation here. Is it ideal for one to hide information here to avoid being tagged or assume as not being a newbie? Pardon my English please but I believe the message is clear a bit.

You have made it very important question and to answer that newbies need to be confident when they want to join a conversation. If you think that you have an idea of what is being talked about you can chime in and if there is a confusion you can also go ahead and ask. Newbies always get backclash but you don't have to be afraid or take it personal.

[KingsDen]

It is simple to follow;
If you are a genuine newbie, present yourself as a genuine newbie,
But if you have been here and wants to own more than one account,
Don't pretend to be a complete newbie.

In a nutshell, don't claim to be what you are not. Insincerity is a reg flag and not required in the forum.

[Sanitough]

The forum seeks an honest and genuine member. Regardless of your position, it pays always to be genuine with your own post. So hiding the real you, or like saying you’re not actually a real newbie, does not make sense in the forum. What matters is how you create a post, how you deal in the discussion, and how you appreciate other members whenever you learn something from them.

Posting is never an issue, the real issue is if you keep posting something not suitable in the forum, or simply off-topic because those have never place in all boards discussion. Instead, post something you know well and create threads that aren’t introduced in the forum yet. And lastly, post topics that will keep the interest of the members, like a head turner, something that they can’t afford to miss a reply.