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I am using 0.3 to 0.4 sat/vbyte and it has been working. But I am seeing 0.5 sat/vbyte right now on the mempool. This is where we began it: How to make a bitcoin transaction and pay less than 1 sat/vByte
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This is exactly what I was about to ask, that wouldn’t it be nice if OP actually adds the sever he is connected and possibly the wallet so that most that will like to try this out can actually switch to such server, I got that of LoyceV for electrum wallet but will want to see maybe your own server since there is still most of this public wallet that do not have this yet. If it is your personal server then wouldn’t it be better to drop it so others can access and relay lower fees too Good thread, it’s high time one starts using lower fees although some wallets still do not allow connecting to this servers yet
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It is a standard trezor 1. hardware wallet
and standard trezor Suite software.
I am on a Mac mini 4 with Sequia 15.5 os
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This is exactly what I was about to ask, that wouldn’t it be nice if OP actually adds the sever he is connected and possibly the wallet so that most that will like to try this out can actually switch to such server, I got that of LoyceV for electrum wallet but will want to see maybe your own server since there is still most of this public wallet that do not have this yet. If it is your personal server then wouldn’t it be better to drop it so others can access and relay lower fees too For Trezor Suite, I think it is done automatically, no need to connect to any special server. You can get more information on the link that I posted above. Good thread, it’s high time one starts using lower fees although some wallets still do not allow connecting to this servers yet
Use the ones that can do it. Electrum, Bluewallet, Sparrow and Trezor Suite can all do it. Also all hardware wallets that you can connect to Electrum or Sparrow will do it when connected to the wallet.
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This is exactly what I was about to ask, that wouldn’t it be nice if OP actually adds the sever he is connected and possibly the wallet so that most that will like to try this out can actually switch to such server, I got that of LoyceV for electrum wallet but will want to see maybe your own server since there is still most of this public wallet that do not have this yet. If it is your personal server then wouldn’t it be better to drop it so others can access and relay lower fees too For Trezor Suite, I think it is done automatically, no need to connect to any special server. You can get more information on the link that I posted above.Good thread, it’s high time one starts using lower fees although some wallets still do not allow connecting to this servers yet
Use the ones that can do it. Electrum, Bluewallet, Sparrow and Trezor Suite can all do it. Also all hardware wallets that you can connect to Electrum or Sparrow will do it when connected to the wallet. Yeah they did a change. So it is simple to do. Part of why I posted this is that if your wallet software or hard ware does not do it you can complain and show this thread. As I would like to see any and all wallets do it. With zero extra work other than just picking the fee yourself. Trezor has Standard fee High fee Advanced fee. So I pick advanced and add 0.9 sats this got moved to 0.91 for some rounding issue of some type. or 0.8 sats or 0.7 sats
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to mods I did this separately on purpose for clarity. sometimes wallets can give bad estimates for time. note is says 12 hours for confirm  and confirm was under 1 hour 
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Try 0.3 sat/vbyte now, it will get confirmed. The fee rate may start to increase tomorrow which will be in some hours time. I have used 0.3 sat/vbyte several times.
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Can I contribute? Not Trezor, but my last tx with electrum was confirmed with 0.30 sat/vByte (0.00000156 BTC for 7 inputs and 1 output). Had to run a few extra commands, though... https://mempool.space/tx/17d83dbc4a9ca0f5b7a36de278af39b4fba43fb0cb341778e0be2b6d4cfcd752
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Good info. Yeah people need to see that it is not hard to do. The trezor steps are really easy. EVEN if my 0.11 takes a long time the 0.2 was quick under 10 minutes time. Also i did bc1 and old school legacy need to do a segwit maybe tommorrow.
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With how the mempool has been for weeks, 0.1 sat/vbyte can not get confirmed. Likely it will later be dropped.
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EVEN if my 0.11 takes a long time the 0.2 was quick under 10 minutes time. Timing is everything, my 0.21 sat/vbyte transaction took 4 weeks to confirm. So mempool is slowly working through the pile of the low-fee transactions. Mempool.space places your transactions at 17 blocks from the top. It can take weeks to confirm.
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With how the mempool has been for weeks, 0.1 sat/vbyte can not get confirmed. Likely it will later be dropped. year I figured it won't make it. But 0.24 seems good or 0.33 which is a real savings. I do not do a lot of sends of btc so it is a far less issue for me. But many send a lot and it can be a problem as 1.0 is 3x that of 0.33 and 4x of 0.24
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With how the mempool has been for weeks, 0.1 sat/vbyte can not get confirmed. Likely it will later be dropped. year I figured it won't make it. But 0.24 seems good or 0.33 which is a real savings. I do not do a lot of sends of btc so it is a far less issue for me. But many send a lot and it can be a problem as 1.0 is 3x that of 0.33 and 4x of 0.24 So I cancelled this after 50 days or so. Oct 19 to Dec 11 and I decided 0.11 is not likely to work. but I did get 0.21 and up to go.
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Oct 19 to Dec 11 and I decided 0.11 is not likely to work.
If only the majority of mining pools accept sub 1sat/vB transactions, the result would've been different. Most of them would rather mine non-full blocks when there's not enough 1sat/vB+ transactions than accept those with lower fee rates.
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Mia Chloe
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December 17, 2025, 08:50:35 PM |
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If only the majority of mining pools accept sub 1sat/vB transactions, the result would've been different. Most of them would rather mine non-full blocks when there's not enough 1sat/vB+ transactions than accept those with lower fee rates.
This is true and also very bad. It's that same selfish incentive that prompts pools to use no less than 1 sat/byte as purge fee and because of this fees overtime generally tends to increase drastically as most people want a fast confirmation whilst still trying to avoid the near values of the purge fee. Now that fees have subsided a lot some wallets are still calculating and predicting relatively higher fees except you probably do a double check on the mempool before broadcasting.
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December 17, 2025, 09:27:12 PM |
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well 03.44 is very good at the moment . So fees went up a lot from
0.21 which worked in under an hour for me.
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