Your thoughts on users who make repeated comments on same thread?

[Btcdeybodi]

While we are condemning users for spamming a thread by making repeated comments, do we care if they know that they have made a reply on that thread previously? it's not everyone that can capture a thread that they have made a reply before that is why it is good to check the small yellow icon inside the left edge box of a thread. I believe that there are users that don't know that the yellow sign in the box indicates a thread that they have made a reply previously. On my own, i don't comment twice in a thread except am responding to someone that quoted me or am making a different point from the one i made initially.

[Pmalek]

If that is an everyday occurrence by a certain user, then it's obvious spam and silly attempt to increase the post count. If those posts are reported for spam and being repetitive, I am sure that mods would delete them. At the same time, I am sure people can sometimes forget that they already commented in a thread so they do it again. Depending on how often it happens, it can either be an honest mistake or deliberate spam for several reasons.

[Welsh]

If you believe them to be spam, report them.

Most of the posts that you describe generally are spam, and we'll see a pattern in the user that is posting them. However, there was definitely times where it might be acceptable. I'm not expecting users to have a perfect memory, or even take note of the indicator which shows they've previously posted in the thread. Especially a large thread.

However, context matters. It really does depend on the content of the post.

[Ultegra134]

People forget, so I guess a repeated comment in a specific thread or a post to a certain limit or after a extended period of time should be acceptable. I mean not all users checks all the previous pages, for example from page 1-10, to see whether they previously commented or not. But when it's a recent topic and there are barely any pages, like 1-3, we should be cautions, keep our eyes open. But if it's a 3 months old topic, I guess I might not remember. Lastly, whether it's spam or not, I agree, we shouldn't repeat such actions knowingly. 

Again I can be wrong though. So CMIIW.

Btw, what do you mean by the bolded text? I didn't understand it.  

Well, you can see in which topics you've replied, but certainly, you may not notice it every now and then. However, we're not talking about doing it once or twice, but for repetitive users. I've also noticed users who repeatedly post in specific topics, often in the gambling discussion board, but not limited to that. As the OP mentioned, in which I also agree, your first post should or may refer to the OP's initial opinion/case, if you are to reply again, it should address another user who also commented on the topic. This is how discussions are made.

[DYING_S0UL]

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Well, you can see in which topics you've replied, but certainly, you may not notice it every now and then. However, we're not talking about doing it once or twice, but for repetitive users. I've also noticed users who repeatedly post in specific topics, often in the gambling discussion board, but not limited to that. As the OP mentioned, in which I also agree, your first post should or may refer to the OP's initial opinion/case, if you are to reply again, it should address another user who also commented on the topic. This is how discussions are made.

As I said previously, if someone intentionally does that, then this should be considered spam. But if it's a honest mistake, even if it's more than once, I guess we can ignore that. And it seems one of the staff also agrees on that. We are only human!

Btw how exactly? Is there any specific indicator? I must confess even after all these years, I still don't know how many things works here.
Were you referring to these icons? I don't know about their specific meanings..

Edit: my bad, I didn't read the comments above. Now I know what it means.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I have seen some users make comments to same thread as if they are responding to the thread for the first time, oblivious (or deliberately ignored) to the fact that they have already responded earlier.

(If it isn't obvious, let me clarify that these comments are not responses to other comments).

Should such subsequent comments be considered as spam? I hope I am clear on what I am asking.

They’re probably spam posting for their signature campaign, if they’re in one. They probably have a scattergun approach to posting, without a genuine interest in the topic.

If you think they are doing this you can report post to moderator, they can then delete the poste of they deem it spam.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I see something similar with the push-up topic. Every self-respecting beginner athlete tells us every day what time they woke up, what the weather is like, and what their mood is, so they can later tell us or invent (choose the appropriate option) how many push-ups they did to boost the Bitcoin market .
I also see newbies announcing their presence on the forum several times. I want to ask Nigerians: Is it really that important to know the weather while doing push-ups, and is it really that important to announce your presence on the forum every time ?

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[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I have seen some users make comments to same thread as if they are responding to the thread for the first time, oblivious (or deliberately ignored) to the fact that they have already responded earlier.

Two scenarios here, the first being that they forget that they have responded to the thread because of how similar the threads are this days. I meant want to respond to a thread but the discussion gets too familiar that I'll just have to stop because to me, it's like I have written on that thread but that isn't the case.

This is happening because the thread looks similar to something I have written on recently. But in the case when you see one user responding on different occasions to one thread and they aren't replying to different users or almost all they're saying is similar content then just know, that user is spamming.

Many people do this to boost post count but that's wrong and shouldn't be encouraged. There are lots of different threads to communicate on and lots of discussions to join so we don't have to recycle the same things because that's just spamming.

I also see newbies announcing their presence on the forum several times. I want to ask Nigerians: Is it really that important to know the weather while doing push-ups, and is it really that important to announce your presence on the forum every time ?

That thread was created as an avenue to control the spam new topic that we  were getting on the local board of newbies introducing themselves on the forum. When we began to see a rise in new accounts announcing themselves on the forum, that thread was created to put all that under one roof. Better that way than getting new topic of introduction daily. But those abusing the thread shouldn't go unpunished though as that wasn't the intent.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Some threads it’s acceptable to comment more than once if there is new information to discuss. For example, a casino might introduce a new bonus or redesign their website. You can make multiple original comments about subjects that are very general. It becomes a problem if someone is being repetitive for the sake of fulfilling a signature quota. I don’t notice this behavior too often, but that could be because spammers choose longer threads where people won’t read every single page, making it easier to hide in a sea of comments.

[Pmalek]

Btw how exactly? Is there any specific indicator? I must confess even after all these years, I still don't know how many things works here.

Were you asking how to know if you already posted in a specific thread on the forum?
If the "All" button for pages is available at the top, click on it. I think it's available in threads with 20 or less pages. That will load all the posts on one page. After that, enter CTRL and F + your username. If you already posted there, someone mentioned your name, or quoted one of your posts, it will become visible in the results.

[Emjay24]

Btw how exactly? Is there any specific indicator? I must confess even after all these years, I still don't know how many things works here.

Were you asking how to know if you already posted in a specific thread on the forum?
If the "All" button for pages is available at the top, click on it. I think it's available in threads with 20 or less pages. That will load all the posts on one page. After that, enter CTRL and F + your username. If you already posted there, someone mentioned your name, or quoted one of your posts, it will become visible in the results.

Thank you for this, I never knew there was a way to see if I already had an earlier comment. I must confess that before now it has been a lot difficult scanning for previous comments, I just tried it and it worked like magic . Again is there a resource you can point me to so as to learn other helpful shortcuts?

I want to ask Nigerians: Is it really that important to know the weather while doing push-ups, and is it really that important to announce your presence on the forum every time ?

For me it is not a necessity, I didn't even do that because I exist and interact in the same local board and I believe that the best way to introduce myself in any environment is by contributing meaningfully to it, that way you would be seen and there would no need to introduce yourself.

[Obulis]

The tendency of oversight on a topic that has your response to the op already, cannot be completely undermined (even if not a newbie). That's to say, that someone won't notice "the you have written here mark" on the left hand side of a board home page before making another reply to the op.
Without such awareness, this two replies can be the same point but different language, which makes it useless since it's from the same person. On the ground of different points, it looks helpless, then talking of opposing points, that's totally absurd. So checking the left hand side indicator of your presence in any topic is important and suppose to be part of the forum general attitude to avoid these useless, helpless and absurd happenings.

To use the edit button option is when the member is already aware of their presence on that topic.
 But what if the first reply has already been quoted?
I guess editing can only be when a reply is not yet quoted?
All the points above makes this second reply directly to the op a junk or spammy.
The best thing is to always check if already present in any topic and avoid second reply as though new to the topic.
As for penalties, we shouldn't forget the probable tendency of oversight. All can't be intentional.

[Solosanz]

Oh damn, those users are participated on the campaign I currently participate.

I also don't understand why they can do like that especially when their first post and later are different, it's like they have two brains and they can switch whenever they want.

For example, a casino might introduce a new bonus or redesign their website. You can make multiple original comments about subjects that are very general.

Comparing a new update and someone who respond on the same subject multiple times are different. If someone want to respond on the same subject more than one time, make sure it's also about new update instead of a different perspective.

Most of the posts that you describe generally are spam, and we'll see a pattern in the user that is posting them. However, there was definitely times where it might be acceptable. I'm not expecting users to have a perfect memory, or even take note of the indicator which shows they've previously posted in the thread. Especially a large thread.

Users who break unobvious rules high unlikely the post would be deleted, with 2 paragraphs, the post would be seen have a value.

[Pmalek]

Thank you for this, I never knew there was a way to see if I already had an earlier comment. I must confess that before now it has been a lot difficult scanning for previous comments, I just tried it and it worked like magic . Again is there a resource you can point me to so as to learn other helpful shortcuts?

I don't know of one from the top of my head. CTRL+F is a general command that works on Windows wherever there is an option to search for something. You can try it in other software and it may or may not work. The mac equivalent should be COMMAND + F. Do a Google search for popular windows shortcuts, most common windows shortcuts, or something similar and see if there is something there that you can find useful.

Instead of clicking on the "All" button at the top of the page, you can also add ";all" at the end of the address and it does the same thing. Again, it only works for threads of up to 20 pages, no more. I am not sure what is the best way of checking if you posted in a thread with 21 pages or more. One option is to use LOYCE.CLUB and this search tool: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/.

Let's use the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ topic that has 51 pages as an example. Under "topicID" enter "703657", which is the topic's ID as you can see from the address bar. Click "Go to topic." You will see a list with links to all posts in that discussion and the names of the authors. Again, use the CTRL + F method to check if your name is there or not.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I want to ask Nigerians: Is it really that important to know the weather while doing push-ups, and is it really that important to announce your presence on the forum every time ?

When you talk about the push up thread it doesn't really mean that is only the push up that you engage in all the time, like every day, you mix it with whichever form of exercises you could think of not just pushing up everyday, like myself I said something concerning the weather because I had to add jogging to my list of exercises and one of those morning I stopped because it was raining which I don't like and I said this is the kind of weather condition I hate going out to jog, then some of the members start bringing up their own option that was how it started not like we Nigerians always talk about our weather condition in the push up thread, no...is not important to know the weather while doing the push up but it is necessary to share your experience on your daily exercises and is not only Nigerians that do share sure experience. I think you have to try using that thread more often and try some of the exercises you could think of.

While we are condemning users for spamming a thread by making repeated comments, do we care if they know that they have made a reply on that thread previously? it's not everyone that can capture a thread that they have made a reply before that is why it is good to check the small yellow icon inside the left edge box of a thread. I believe that there are users that don't know that the yellow sign in the box indicates a thread that they have made a reply previously. On my own, i don't comment twice in a thread except am responding to someone that quoted me or am making a different point from the one i made initially.

I think there are some topics that need to be deleted because if it isn't done that way that particular section will be messed up, it has already and if it continues we might be having another Germany league, Spanish league, French league and so on just like we have 2 of the EPL topic in the gambling section.

[lovesmayfamilis]

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All of this would be important for those who genuinely come to the forum for their passion and knowledge about Bitcoin. But those who come to the forum simply to do push-ups and publish reports from the first posts and then participate wherever possible, rehashing information about DCA, are simply spammers. Such "athletes" might be advised to move to another sports forum. You know, there's a good saying: "There is strength, but no intelligence!" which in some cases is very appropriate.

[Sexylizzy2813]

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All of this would be important for those who genuinely come to the forum for their passion and knowledge about Bitcoin. But those who come to the forum simply to do push-ups and publish reports from the first posts and then participate wherever possible, rehashing information about DCA, are simply spammers. Such "athletes" might be advised to move to another sports forum. You know, there's a good saying: "There is strength, but no intelligence!" which in some cases is very appropriate.

You are right but at the same time you can't tell if the next person have it in mind to learn or talk more about Bitcoin in the Forum or not, or if an individual has the knowledge about Bitcoin but choose to engage in non Bitcoin related thread, it goes both ways and at the same time I believe learn takes time to some that doesn't know what you know...you can as well go their not to drop your report or hit the floor like many of us do but to drop in some Bitcoin related matters or knowledge  that you have if you feel non of such is being said or discussed over there, remember we didn't learn all what we know in one day, is a stage.

[Maslate]

I have seen some users make comments to same thread as if they are responding to the thread for the first time, oblivious (or deliberately ignored) to the fact that they have already responded earlier.

(If it isn't obvious, let me clarify that these comments are not responses to other comments).

Should such subsequent comments be considered as spam? I hope I am clear on what I am asking.

f you see something that looks like spam, then report it. In general topics, especially in gambling discussions about addiction or betting styles.. those repetitive and very common threads can easily be considered spam.

But for league topics like basketball, sometimes excitement gets the best of us and we end up posting updates or reactions in quick succession. Personally, I don’t see that as spamming since it’s not intentional. Still, if other users think otherwise, they can report it and let the mods decide how to handle it.

[Cryptohygenic]

While we are condemning users for spamming a thread by making repeated comments, do we care if they know that they have made a reply on that thread previously? it's not everyone that can capture a thread that they have made a reply before that is why it is good to check the small yellow icon inside the left edge box of a thread. I believe that there are users that don't know that the yellow sign in the box indicates a thread that they have made a reply previously. On my own, i don't comment twice in a thread except am responding to someone that quoted me or am making a different point from the one i made initially.

Honestly I am not aware of this edge box that indicates whether or not you have have made post on the thread. Thanks for bringing this up. Bitcointalk forum is just too weird for many users and complex to grab it all.
I am aware that repeating same post especially in the same thread or quoting a particular user is spamming and due to the fact I don't want to go contrary with the rules, I am not going to lie, I scrutinizes the thread if it has a short page to know if it have posted there before so that I will know my stance in that particular thread while I will skips some lengthy posts that I may not have the time to check if I have posted there or not.

[EarnOnVictor]

While we are condemning users for spamming a thread by making repeated comments, do we care if they know that they have made a reply on that thread previously? it's not everyone that can capture a thread that they have made a reply before that is why it is good to check the small yellow icon inside the left edge box of a thread. I believe that there are users that don't know that the yellow sign in the box indicates a thread that they have made a reply previously. On my own, i don't comment twice in a thread except am responding to someone that quoted me or am making a different point from the one i made initially.

Honestly I am not aware of this edge box that indicates whether or not you have have made post on the thread. Thanks for bringing this up. Bitcointalk forum is just too weird for many users and complex to grab it all.

Really? That means you've been spamming our dear forum for so long...just kidding.lol

I think I detected that the very first month I joined the forum. The reason is that I've been on many forums for years, and many of them always have signs/marks to help you easily detect whether or not you are a returning posters. Though they do not appear the same as this. It's also about sensitivity, but really, Bitcointalk could be complex in some things, even as it looks simple.

I am aware that repeating same post especially in the same thread or quoting a particular user is spamming and due to the fact I don't want to go contrary with the rules, I am not going to lie, I scrutinizes the thread if it has a short page to know if it have posted there before so that I will know my stance in that particular thread while I will skips some lengthy posts that I may not have the time to check if I have posted there or not.

Now that you know how to spot it, I believe it will be easier, for I don't know how your former style can be so effective and convenient. Some new threads may also garner some good pages in a short while. This will discourage you from contributing your quota in such.