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January 27, 2026, 02:03:33 PM
Last edit: January 27, 2026, 02:20:26 PM by Smack That Ace
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Is this notorious green energy already inevitable as a fact, just because it was proclaimed by adherents to globalism? This is nothing more than propaganda. There is no green energy and there never will be. Green energy is essentially the energy of the sun (direct radiation from the sun and wind, as a phenomenon of movement of air masses due to temperature differences) and gravity (tidal energy). This energy is not enough for modern civilization.

In addition, there is the issue of cost, and the issue of intermittent power (cloudy weather, calm). It is possible that oil consumption will decrease only due to increased consumption of uranium or a return to coal. And we must remember that all world trade is based on sea transportation, that is, on fuel oil, because there are no battery-powered electric container ships to cross the oceans.

A more convincing piece of evidence that  raw energy source will continue to play a major role as the world's primary energy source. Major powers such as the US, China, and Russia are still stockpiling, exploiting, and investing heavily in these energy sources. They are even willing to use force or geopolitical pressure to gain control of energy resources from smaller countries.

That alone proves that the importance of raw energy has not diminished, contrary to the misconception held by many.
That's right, clean energy will never become dominant over oil or nuclear power.

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January 27, 2026, 06:03:46 PM
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Is this notorious green energy already inevitable as a fact, just because it was proclaimed by adherents to globalism? This is nothing more than propaganda. There is no green energy and there never will be. Green energy is essentially the energy of the sun (direct radiation from the sun and wind, as a phenomenon of movement of air masses due to temperature differences) and gravity (tidal energy). This energy is not enough for modern civilization.

In addition, there is the issue of cost, and the issue of intermittent power (cloudy weather, calm). It is possible that oil consumption will decrease only due to increased consumption of uranium or a return to coal. And we must remember that all world trade is based on sea transportation, that is, on fuel oil, because there are no battery-powered electric container ships to cross the oceans.

A more convincing piece of evidence that  raw energy source will continue to play a major role as the world's primary energy source. Major powers such as the US, China, and Russia are still stockpiling, exploiting, and investing heavily in these energy sources. They are even willing to use force or geopolitical pressure to gain control of energy resources from smaller countries.

That alone proves that the importance of raw energy has not diminished, contrary to the misconception held by many.
That's right, clean energy will never become dominant over oil or nuclear power.
Oil is dominanting in that time because that is high in demand and people should invest at that time. Oil is limited at that time and many countries have no resources of that and they are buying the oil from other countries and the countries which are rich of that oil are selling the oil and these are earning good amount of money. If any country will invest more money in that then their money will be safe because petrol prices are controlled by dollar and in the near future we will see price increase of Dollar. Many countries want to hold dollars as America is trying to attack on many countries and they will take hold of these countries. If any country has more oil then oil prices are low in that country because supply is more in that country.

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January 27, 2026, 06:20:46 PM
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Oil is dominanting in that time because that is high in demand and people should invest at that time. Oil is limited at that time and many countries have no resources of that and they are buying the oil from other countries and the countries which are rich of that oil are selling the oil and these are earning good amount of money. If any country will invest more money in that then their money will be safe because petrol prices are controlled by dollar and in the near future we will see price increase of Dollar. Many countries want to hold dollars as America is trying to attack on many countries and they will take hold of these countries. If any country has more oil then oil prices are low in that country because supply is more in that country.

The trend is going to change, and I am seeing no future in oil as an investment for long term prospect. This thing you also know that electric vehicles are replacing oil-based vehicles, and this thing can be a reason that will challenge the oil market in the coming days. I know, saying this oil will be useless is a kind of illogical thing for now near me, but it is accurate to say that the oil market can be disturbed due to more usage of E-motors. And I think this is the best that electric vehicles are getting replaced by oil vehicles.

Because this is polluting our air, it becomes the reason for a lot of diseases that a lot of people are facing or suffering from around the globe. And in Pakistan, the usage of E-bikes and cars is getting much attention from consumers and users. Like, there are many brands that are providing their technology in Pakistan, and I see a lot of bikes and cars on the roads when I go out. What do you think?

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January 27, 2026, 06:40:31 PM
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A more convincing piece of evidence that  raw energy source will continue to play a major role as the world's primary energy source. Major powers such as the US, China, and Russia are still stockpiling, exploiting, and investing heavily in these energy sources. They are even willing to use force or geopolitical pressure to gain control of energy resources from smaller countries.

That alone proves that the importance of raw energy has not diminished, contrary to the misconception held by many.
That's right, clean energy will never become dominant over oil or nuclear power.
Do not be fooled by people who claim that "green energy is a faux" or anything, it's the future if we like it or not. Simply put, we will run out of gas and oil one day, oil quicker probably. There is literally no other option, that's literally the only way we can move further and that is why it's clear that we are not going to really change anything, it is going to be just all green. Could be wind, could be solar, could be even hydro, because water is quite good and dams are making money.

It can be anything like that, while nuclear is not seen as green, that is also quite possible for long term if you take care of it and not make it a chernobyl situation. Oil and gas is ending, not because someone wants to, it is literally not going to be left in the world, we will run out, it is not about what we want anymore.


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January 27, 2026, 10:18:14 PM
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For now the diversification from crude oil to other successful success of energy her not being significantly implemented because of the unreliability of its success and poor lasting strength compared to the once generated from crude oil. The introduction of other renewable success of energy as the potential replacement of crude oil and gas because of its unavailability, risk to life and believe it we soon finish have not gained momentum to be considered a permanent solution they lack the qualities required for dominance even as they have considered crude a very source of environmental pollution, But i don't think any renewable success of energy can dominate crude because of its importance to the development of the society when it comes to development.

We don't know yet that for sure. Because the trend now is to explore the opportunities using renewable energy. As the crude oil is going to deplete in the future, humans need to find alternative sources of energy to survive. And we are now continue searching to find alternatives to prepare for what's to come.
This is the job of scientists, to discover the path of renewable energy because the resources on earth is slowly depleting and we need to find a way how to address the needs of humankind in the next decades to come. So I believe that in the distant future, renewable energy sources will dominate and not the oil anymore. People continue to discover and study how to use these renewable energy sources as a cheaper alternative to embark the survival of humanity in the future.

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January 27, 2026, 10:40:27 PM
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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?
Oil demand for oil is declining in some certain areas and inclining in another area cos of civilization happening that area, what I mean, the demand of oil depends on the rate of civilization that had occur around certain regions and regions still experiencing uncivilized settings and doings.

Saying this because in some certain locale village in some area, the use of electrical cars and other electrical appliances that do need oil before changes in hand to changeable devices before usage while in some area, the use of oil based generators are still functioning and active where the demand for it hasn't still stopped.

My opinion on this, oil can never be removed from the market, it can't and won't be any body.
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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?

Oil demand may be under pressure because of the global push for clean energy and electric vehicles, but I dont necessary think oil-producing nations automatically lose relevance or power because of that. What is happening i think is more of a transition than a sudden collapse. Oil is still deeply embedded in transportation, manufacturing, petrochemicals, and even renewable infrastructure itself so the demand is slowing down not necessarily disappearing. I will say this though, those that invest oil revenues wisely and diversify their economies and take part in the clean energy space will still remain influential but countries that depend only on oil and ignore the transition may find it harder to maintain the same level of power as the world gradually moves in a new direction.

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The most important thing will be global percentage usage, so that even if the demand of oil declines it won't mean it's not in dominance. However these will tend to be over a long period of time and while that period of time, green energy will be gathering momentum to take dominance which might probably happen but not in anytime soon.
These is not in anyway pointing to total replacement but just dominance since petroleum refinery byproducts are part of daily life and instruments of many major industrial productions
Global demand for oil will continue even if other energy sources can replace it, because almost all countries still need oil for various purposes that are still used today. I also quite agree with your comment, because in reality, oil use persists and cannot be ignored by anyone in the world, especially countries with factories and large industries that produce certain products every day. And in the country where I live now, fuel oil is still a highly sought-after material because it is still widely used in various sectors.

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January 28, 2026, 02:39:43 PM
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For now the diversification from crude oil to other successful success of energy her not being significantly implemented because of the unreliability of its success and poor lasting strength compared to the once generated from crude oil. The introduction of other renewable success of energy as the potential replacement of crude oil and gas because of its unavailability, risk to life and believe it we soon finish have not gained momentum to be considered a permanent solution they lack the qualities required for dominance even as they have considered crude a very source of environmental pollution, But i don't think any renewable success of energy can dominate crude because of its importance to the development of the society when it comes to development.

We don't know yet that for sure. Because the trend now is to explore the opportunities using renewable energy. As the crude oil is going to deplete in the future, humans need to find alternative sources of energy to survive. And we are now continue searching to find alternatives to prepare for what's to come.

Planing for possible solution is the only answer so it won't take all unaware because with the way things are going in the crude oil industry, the probability of it coming to an end in years to come is sure and certain after all its not all communities that had crude before that still have now. To me the most reliable source of energy among other sources is the solar because its easy to find at any where and any time, but need to work seriously on how to diversify from solar panels to other comfortable converting medium

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January 29, 2026, 01:53:54 PM
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I don't think so, because many countries have tried other resources to discover that oil business is no longer profitable like decentralized asset, because some countries has started producing machines that is not using fuel or diesel. Even the investors that have been investing in oil business, some of them have quite the business to try decentralized asset which is a good decision if they can endure for a while before they can release what they have invested to the market.

Despite BTC is a decentralized asset, BTC is  dominated more than oil these days, because some countries has discover some benefits from BTC hodling which they have taken a good decision to make it legal tender for their citizens to benefits too.


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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?
For a while of course. The thing about all of these people who hate renewable energy is that they think this is something that they have a choice over. No, we are not investing highly into renewable energy for "clean" purposes, or green, or climate change or anything like that. It is because we are doing it since we are going to run out of oil one day. We have a century or so left with oil, probably a lot sooner if we do no stop using it for everything, and for that reason, we are doomed to use renewable energy only one day.

Oil producing countries already started working on other developments like mining as per what I have read in news recently. When you have money, any business would be highly viable which must be the scenario of all OPEC. They many not dominate in green energy era but may survive for sure if their plans work.
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January 29, 2026, 02:46:40 PM
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Planing for possible solution is the only answer so it won't take all unaware because with the way things are going in the crude oil industry, the probability of it coming to an end in years to come is sure and certain after all its not all communities that had crude before that still have now. To me the most reliable source of energy among other sources is the solar because its easy to find at any where and any time, but need to work seriously on how to diversify from solar panels to other comfortable converting medium

According to OPEC estimate, global crude oil inventories are approximately 1,567 billion barrel, and current production is estimated at 100 million barrels/day. This means there is still enough oil for humanity to use for more than half a century. Furthermore, many oil fields remain undiscovered, and as technology advances, more oil field will be found. The world will not run out of oil anytime soon, so do not overreact.

I agree with what viljy said above, no green energy source will be sufficient to power modern civilization except for oil. They will continue to develop, but only as alternative energy sources and will never be able to become the primary global energy source
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January 29, 2026, 08:29:17 PM
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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?
For a while of course. The thing about all of these people who hate renewable energy is that they think this is something that they have a choice over. No, we are not investing highly into renewable energy for "clean" purposes, or green, or climate change or anything like that. It is because we are doing it since we are going to run out of oil one day. We have a century or so left with oil, probably a lot sooner if we do no stop using it for everything, and for that reason, we are doomed to use renewable energy only one day.

Oil producing countries already started working on other developments like mining as per what I have read in news recently. When you have money, any business would be highly viable which must be the scenario of all OPEC. They many not dominate in green energy era but may survive for sure if their plans work.
Those oil reserve estimates are based on current rates of consumption. But patterns of consumption do change, don't they?

Second issue, it's not really a matter of choice versus necessity. It's about timing and transition costs. Record levels of investment in renewable energy were seen across the world, with around a third of that going to solar. That didn't happen because of mandates by governments. Investors saw returns.

Oil states venturing into mining makes perfect economic sense from pov. They have capital, state capacity, and experience in dealing with extractive industries. Saudi Arabia expressly refers to mining as their "third pillar" economy.

They're not sitting passively by to be irrelevant.

What is lost in these debates is that energy transitions are slow historically. Full of improbable consequences. The story that we're just done with oil and all will be fine? That's wishful thinking wrapped in inevitability.

 
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January 29, 2026, 08:50:17 PM
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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?

This is the same as when more people use oil than coal, but until now coal is still used even though the amount of demand tends to decrease, but still coal producers continue to expand their business and even some diversify into the renewable energy sector.

similarly, these oil-producing countries have anticipated that oil demand will not remain as it is forever, there will be a time when demand will decline, and before that happens, they invest in developing tourism, technology, and other businesses to maintain their position in the green energy era, which could potentially erode their oil revenues.

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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?
Both will be useful no one will be left behind in my own humble opinion, those country without crude oil will mostly use renewable or green energy to harness power for utilization, while those that have crude oil will mostly prefer using products from crude because it will not be a waste. Or they can use both since machine that use petrol are usually heavy duty machines, they will need Petrol and diesel to work effectively because those renewable energy machine are limited to how they can function. In conclusion both will be used because the economy will not abandoned the old way of energy.

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Do not be fooled by people who claim that "green energy is a faux" or anything, it's the future if we like it or not. Simply put, we will run out of gas and oil one day, oil quicker probably. There is literally no other option, that's literally the only way we can move further and that is why it's clear that we are not going to really change anything, it is going to be just all green. Could be wind, could be solar, could be even hydro, because water is quite good and dams are making money.

It can be anything like that, while nuclear is not seen as green, that is also quite possible for long term if you take care of it and not make it a chernobyl situation. Oil and gas is ending, not because someone wants to, it is literally not going to be left in the world, we will run out, it is not about what we want anymore.

We should also not be fooled by green energy advocates when they say that oil will soon run out. Oil is a finite resource, but many estimates suggest that current reserves will last for more than 50 years. Furthermore, like gold, there remain a vast amount of undiscovered oil, and the supply could increase further as technology develop.

As I said, let's look at the reality, most industries are still heavily dependent on oil. The major powers are still competing for oil to serve their national interests. Based on those factor, I do not think green energy will become the primary global energy source in the next century.

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Do not be fooled by people who claim that "green energy is a faux" or anything, it's the future if we like it or not. Simply put, we will run out of gas and oil one day, oil quicker probably. There is literally no other option, that's literally the only way we can move further and that is why it's clear that we are not going to really change anything, it is going to be just all green. Could be wind, could be solar, could be even hydro, because water is quite good and dams are making money.

It can be anything like that, while nuclear is not seen as green, that is also quite possible for long term if you take care of it and not make it a chernobyl situation. Oil and gas is ending, not because someone wants to, it is literally not going to be left in the world, we will run out, it is not about what we want anymore.

We should also not be fooled by green energy advocates when they say that oil will soon run out. Oil is a finite resource, but many estimates suggest that current reserves will last for more than 50 years. Furthermore, like gold, there remain a vast amount of undiscovered oil, and the supply could increase further as technology develop.

As I said, let's look at the reality, most industries are still heavily dependent on oil. The major powers are still competing for oil to serve their national interests. Based on those factor, I do not think green energy will become the primary global energy source in the next century.
50 years is less than one life span, if that is the case I think we should be concerned. If there is undiscovered oil, what are the chances it will be huge reserve. Better start investing into renewable energy when oil still exist because this seems to be the best time to develop alternative energy.
Honestly, I thought we still got 100-200 years and even that is already pretty short time for shift into renewable energy. Nuclear power plant is the way.

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January 30, 2026, 08:05:41 AM
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Both will be useful no one will be left behind in my own humble opinion, those country without crude oil will mostly use renewable or green energy to harness power for utilization, while those that have crude oil will mostly prefer using products from crude because it will not be a waste. Or they can use both since machine that use petrol are usually heavy duty machines, they will need Petrol and diesel to work effectively because those renewable energy machine are limited to how they can function. In conclusion both will be used because the economy will not abandoned the old way of energy.

Of course, the more modern the world become, the more energy it need to function. That is why green energy is being researched and developed. In the future, it is possible that even more energy sources will be developed, not just raw energy and green energy. And they will all be useful and used together to serve the world.

However, oil and gas are energy resource with limited supply and are becoming increasingly depleted. Therefore, if we think about the distant future of the world, renewable energy could become dominant and be used more widely in the future.

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January 30, 2026, 08:18:24 AM
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With global pushes for clean energy and electric vehicles, oil demand seems to be declining. But can oil-producing nations adapt or stay powerful in the green energy era?
Firstly oil cannot dominate in a renewable world, if it's demand begins to decline it's value will continue to decrease until it's not needed anymore for it's major export which is to fuel vehicles. You cannot totally eradicate the use of oil like lubricants but it's price will fall drastically because the demand will only be for very few things. This should be a wake up call for oil producing countries that are solely dependant on it for their major income generation, if anything happens to it their economy will crash. I have come to realize that most oil rich countries mostly depend on it for exports, they don't bother to be innovative like countries who don't have oil, as far as crude oil keeps pumping out from the ground and generating money for their economy they won't think to be innovative.

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January 30, 2026, 08:36:56 AM
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I think that it will, it's still needed for so many equipment and cars. Once there is a consensus that all countries have to go renewable and electric then there will be a lesser consumption for the oils. But, you know when there's a lesser demand, that will actually start another increase soon because people likes to go into the cheaper source. So, once oil becomes more cheaper and the electricity and other renewable sources have increased in demand, it cannot be denied that the prices of it could also go high. That's a basic law of supply of demand lessons.


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