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December 10, 2025, 03:52:44 PM
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Yes, we can and we did that. There are hundreds of people cheating death with a heart transplant when their heart fails, while a century back, millions of people died from the common flu means evolution in science and technology has proved that people can be saved. So if someone is in the process of finding a pill that lets someone live 150 years then let them do it, and not every claim made by researchers didn't came as reality either.

I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheating nature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.

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December 10, 2025, 03:56:45 PM
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Yes, we can and we did that. There are hundreds of people cheating death with a heart transplant when their heart fails, while a century back, millions of people died from the common flu means evolution in science and technology has proved that people can be saved. So if someone is in the process of finding a pill that lets someone live 150 years then let them do it, and not every claim made by researchers didn't came as reality either.

I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheating nature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.

If we had a pill that let people to live and only the rich can afford that then what is the problem with that? They got the money and they made it and they want to spend it and they want to love longer and I don't have any problem with that.

I am not saying we got the medicine and I am not even agreeing it is possible but if it became possible then let the people enjoy a longer stay here. Grin

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December 11, 2025, 10:37:26 AM
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Yes, we can and we did that. There are hundreds of people cheating death with a heart transplant when their heart fails, while a century back, millions of people died from the common flu means evolution in science and technology has proved that people can be saved. So if someone is in the process of finding a pill that lets someone live 150 years then let them do it, and not every claim made by researchers didn't came as reality either.

I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheatilife ature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.

If we had a pill that let people to live and only the rich can afford that then what is the problem with that? They got the money and they made it and they want to spend it and they want to love longer and I don't have any problem with that.

I am not saying we got the medicine and I am not even agreeing it is possible but if it became possible then let the people enjoy a longer stay here. Grin

Thank god you know such medicine do not exist, which am sure can never be because God is an incomparable God. I know scientist will try producing such medicine that  can prevent people from dying with all  they have but the probability of such coming to reality is not sure or certain. There are some mystery that are beyond human imaginations which is the reasons why I say quest for hidden mystery is the reasons behind some of the problems affecting us now, not that am of the opinion that scientific improvement is not good but there are some research that may in turn become disastrous to the researchers and the world at large and quest for medicine to have internal life is one of them

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December 11, 2025, 03:21:43 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2025, 03:33:50 PM by Uhwuchukwu53
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Well a Big No And No is the simple answer to this question, but let me digress by expanciating by using age for example, many hide their age mostly women, as most of us who leaves in the third world countries may not see it as new thing women will hide their age claiming to be under 18 years, early 20 etc even when their age has gone beyond thirty, which has courses many of them having difficulties in getting married as people that goes close examine their physical outlook of their  age and what they claimed, not matching together making them more vulnerable to consequences of nature. it's unwise to claimed one can cheat nature, nature is like wall clock showcasing time frame, I wonder as people uses the slogan no time oo, in my opinion there is aboundant and surplus time it's human that will adjust with time because time can never adjust for human, so it's nature, one can't cheat but deceived itself while having such notion towards nature.

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December 12, 2025, 06:31:29 PM
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Nah, cheating on nature is a hard no for me too – just like how you can't fight sleep forever.

The whole idea of popping a pill to live to 150 feels wild, but not in a good way. Don't get me wrong, the science the article talks about is kinda mind-blowing. A startup in China made a pill from grape seed extract that boosted mice lifespans by over 9%. That's a legit, science-based flex, not just science fiction.

But that's the key: it worked on mice. Translating that to humans is a whole other ball game, and slapping a "150 years" marketing tag on it feels like major hype. It sounds like they're selling a dream before they've even finished the blueprint.

So, is it a welcome idea? For treating age-related diseases and improving healthspan—absolutely. That's a W for humanity. But as a magic pill for extreme longevity? That's where I get sketched out. The risks—from overpopulation and resource strain to just creating a world of super-old, bored billionaires—seem way bigger than the reward. Let's focus on living well, not just living long for the sake of a crazy number.
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Can you imagine what it would have been like for the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? What if they popped a pill and lived forever, and their atoms got super-heated, and dispersed throughout the atmosphere - when they were nuked in WW2. Then they cooled (atom by atom), and settled all over the world, and they were alive in all the plants and animals - and people - who ate them. What a rush!

Yet, California has a governor who wants to cheat on nature all over the place.


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While speaking about trans women in sports, which he apparently still supports, Newsom noted that he has a trans godchild and said that he 'wants to see trans kids.'

The 2024 election made it pretty clear that the public is done with this but Newsom is not going to give it up. He is staking out a positive position on the issue.

Someone should let the governor know that there is no such thing as trans kids. Just activist parents.

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Gavin Newsom Reveals He Wants 'To See Trans Kids'

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) highlighted how he wanted "to see" transgender children, and that there is "no governor that's done more pro-trans legislation" than he has.

During an interview on an episode of The Ezra Klein Show, with New York Times columnist Ezra Klein, Newsom described President Donald Trump as being "One of the most destructive presidents and human beings" in Newsom's lifetime.

Newsom also described himself as the "future ex-governor" who has to look his children "in the god**** eye."

"We didn't get into trans sports. That's an issue no one wants to hear about because 80 percent of the people listening disagree with my position on this," Newsom shared. "But it comes from my heart, not just my head. It wasn't a political evolution."

When asked by Klein about his position, Newsom added that he wants "To see trans kids."

"I have a trans godson," Newsom added. "There's no governor that's done more pro-trans legislation than I have. No one has been a stronger advocate for the LGBTQ community."
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December 14, 2025, 04:06:03 AM
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I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheating nature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.

Science has really saved the lives of alot of people out there which would have been lost long ago. Let us make a simple example with how a simple flu killed millions of people a hundred years ago because they were no vaccines or good medicine then but look at today we have vaccines of different diseases almost after every secondly and tertiary, antibodies and even heart transplants which give people extra years when their heart fails etc. Versus how alot of people have been cured off their diseases which is brilliant to hear technology and media advancement has seriously brought about the strength and huge support which an individual need to become more ready in terms of those who work in the health line and everyone else.

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December 14, 2025, 08:59:06 PM
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I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheating nature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.

Science has really saved the lives of alot of people out there which would have been lost long ago. Let us make a simple example with how a simple flu killed millions of people a hundred years ago because they were no vaccines or good medicine then but look at today we have vaccines of different diseases almost after every secondly and tertiary, antibodies and even heart transplants which give people extra years when their heart fails etc. Versus how alot of people have been cured off their diseases which is brilliant to hear technology and media advancement has seriously brought about the strength and huge support which an individual need to become more ready in terms of those who work in the health line and everyone else.

Whose simple statistics is one to believe? The flu vaccine may have indeed saved many people who would have gotten the flu without them. But standard medicine is that once you get a virus, a vaccine doesn't help you.

The point is, if the flu vaccine saved people from getting the flu, what do the vaccine trials show about length and quality of life of people who didn't get the vaccine... compared with those who did? We don't know, because double-blind studies were never done, or else they are being completely hidden from us.

In other words, did the vaccines harm and kill people in other ways, at the same time they were saving them from the flu? Get the answer, below.


What Del Bigtree Did After Doctors Withheld Vaccine Study Results | #462 | The Way I Heard It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAQf2dagfVo.


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December 16, 2025, 03:12:06 PM
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We may only try to manipulate nature, but we cannot cheat on it, because everything will eventually come to a still point one day, despite all efforts for a more abundant life or living.

I've also observed the way of human thinking, the kind of mindset we have, and how we also go in for things and try to achieve what is not due for its time, because of impatience or greed. At the end of it all, if we take a look at those who have taken. Similar steps or decisions, we are going to see the same thing applies to them, that they never finished well doing all these things against nature.

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December 17, 2025, 09:20:58 AM
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I don’t think we can really “cheat” nature, but we can work with it. Humans have been extending life expectancy for centuries through hygiene, medicine, and nutrition. Anti-aging pills sound extreme, but if they focus on slowing disease and improving quality of life, I don’t see it as totally against nature. The real concern for me is safety and long-term effects.

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I don’t think we can really “cheat” nature, but we can work with it. Humans have been extending life expectancy for centuries through hygiene, medicine, and nutrition. Anti-aging pills sound extreme, but if they focus on slowing disease and improving quality of life, I don’t see it as totally against nature. The real concern for me is safety and long-term effects.

Nature has it's own way of making humans feel like they have cheated on it by making them look younger than they are supposed to become due to the level of good health they give to themselves and the different nutrition they take to prevent sickness and diseases from entering the body but all this doesn't stop age from catching up with humans when the times comes you can be taking everything but nature will still hit you down.

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December 17, 2025, 02:14:48 PM
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We may only try to manipulate nature, but we cannot cheat on it, because everything will eventually come to a still point one day, despite all efforts for a more abundant life or living.

I've also observed the way of human thinking, the kind of mindset we have, and how we also go in for things and try to achieve what is not due for its time, because of impatience or greed. At the end of it all, if we take a look at those who have taken. Similar steps or decisions, we are going to see the same thing applies to them, that they never finished well doing all these things against nature.

This reminds me a lot of how people approach shortcuts in life. Everyone wants fast results, nobody wants delayed consequences. Nature has its own timeline, and fighting it usually just shifts the damage elsewhere

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I disagree with you, assuming one can cheat nature do you think the rich would die the answer is know. Have you ever seen a dead person that was brought back to life,  if it was possible do you think Michael Jackson and other rich and wealthy celebrities that dead would have died. Heart transplant is never cheating nature but only a high level
of treatment process which is not 100 percent guarantee know matter the doctor incharge of the operation. Its true most that had such disease did not die of it but it happened because its not yet there time to die, so please write off such thought and face reality.


This is so true. All the plans for the rich to sustain health by living long have failed. I heard stories of the rich sponsoring research on anti-aging solutions, as well as many other research projects to cure certain diseases that have no cure yet.

If we can cheat nature, by now it should have been possible. I think the only thing we can do is to support nature. Most parts of our body can be transplanted, which shows our support for nature, but the breath of life cannot be given.

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December 17, 2025, 07:42:20 PM
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If we can cheat nature, by now it should have been possible. I think the only thing we can do is to support nature. Most parts of our body can be transplanted, which shows our support for nature, but the breath of life cannot be given.
If we can cheat nature by now the rich and the mighty who has died would still be alive and doing different things to remain healthy and alive now imagine the politicians who doesn't want to leave power for others to rule they would have gotten different means to live more than 200 years so that they would keep looting funds that are meant to be used to develop their countries. Nature can not be cheated, regardless all they do to remain healthy once they get to that point they will be called back by nature it's natural.

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December 19, 2025, 09:33:43 AM
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It is very obvious that most people don't understand no matter how Smart they think they are in life there are things that they can never be Smart and which nature is one of it, and i want i understand about nature is that nature works in different two ways and one of the nature happen to sone immediately after committing crimes and secondly the nature works in a long term in the future that you will not even remember that you have committed such crime and finally started happening is when you will start thinking is course by family members or so one that hated you from your progress in life, nature is always there to remind us that we should be very careful of what we should engage in life because of we think there is nothing monitoring us then nature do

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December 19, 2025, 01:51:49 PM
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It is very obvious that most people don't understand no matter how Smart they think they are in life there are things that they can never be Smart and which nature is one of it, and i want i understand about nature is that nature works in different two ways and one of the nature happen to sone immediately after committing crimes and secondly the nature works in a long term in the future that you will not even remember that you have committed such crime and finally started happening is when you will start thinking is course by family members or so one that hated you from your progress in life, nature is always there to remind us that we should be very careful of what we should engage in life because of we think there is nothing monitoring us then nature do

Yes I agree on that, nature stands as a correctional tool who's primary duties is the provide all answers to the questions related to real life activities, which is why one must be very careful in our daily activities because that which you think is the best may be the worst and the assumed worst becomes the best, the bottom line of it all is we should always never forget to know  that which one is expecting from other's we should do same to others and nothing more.

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December 19, 2025, 03:41:25 PM
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If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I understand that scientist have always been proven making tremendous achievements by improving ways of life through what they have researched, but I recently came across this topic and will appreciate us to drop our opinion on what we see about it.

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/
I think it's possible but there are many internal and external factors that cause us to engage in self-destructive behaviors such as smoking and eating poorly and at the wrong times which could accelerate the aging process I think we need to be more mentally prepared to accept a long life
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December 19, 2025, 04:09:42 PM
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I don’t think we can really “cheat” nature, but we can work with it. Humans have been extending life expectancy for centuries through hygiene, medicine, and nutrition. Anti-aging pills sound extreme, but if they focus on slowing disease and improving quality of life, I don’t see it as totally against nature. The real concern for me is safety and long-term effects.
Even with all that scientist have tried to come up with, we are rather seeing life expectancy reducing than it used to be in the past with people struggling to leave upto 90 years in most cases. Of cause improving on ones hygiene isn't a bad thing and is highly recommended but that being said, how long a person can leave his behind the power of the person or that of any scientists. The highest we can do is to ensure that while we leave, the environment and the things we are exposed to aren't giving us the level of discomfort that can send us to early grave. That's that's the highest we can do, any other thing is not in our place to fix.

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December 19, 2025, 04:58:46 PM
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Even with all that scientist have tried to come up with, we are rather seeing life expectancy reducing than it used to be in the past with people struggling to leave upto 90 years in most cases. Of cause improving on ones hygiene isn't a bad thing and is highly recommended but that being said, how long a person can leave his behind the power of the person or that of any scientists. The highest we can do is to ensure that while we leave, the environment and the things we are exposed to aren't giving us the level of discomfort that can send us to early grave. That's that's the highest we can do, any other thing is not in our place to fix.
Avoiding the things that can cause harm to our body is the best way we can increase our life expectancy no matter our dependence on all the things that different doctors are producing and recommending if it's time nothing can stop nature from doing it's thing we can just improve our life by eating healthy and doing regular exercise so that our systems can be working very well to avoid sickness and other related health issues but no human being can escape going to the world beyond when the time comes there's nothing science can do on it for now because they can't give breath.

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Many would have tried several times to see that they override on the normal process to life, sometimes, we can't just query life and it's expectancy, because everything about it are natural and we can't alter the norms, not even when we think we've got the highest of the advanced technology in place, that of the aging process and death cannot be denied, while human cells, organs, system and every other part are incomparable to what we have developed for ourselves, which are enough reasons to why we should appreciate nature the more and be satisfied with all it offers.

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