The Degree Is Losing Its Power;Can Universities Still Be Trusted?

[rangga28]

Universities have not lost their relevance yet. Can medicine, physics and literature be learned online? There are other subjects that cannot be learned online, universities are needed. Even universities are not just places for studying, but also for acquiring social norms, etiquette, leadership and basic knowledge.

Political influence is responsible for some universities losing their relevance. Fascist political leaders do not want the youth of their country to be educated and point fingers at the government, which is why universities have been made independent of education and are secretly calling for immoral acts to mislead.

Of course, universities still retain their relevance because the field of knowledge is so important and broad, and their existence goes beyond simply preparing individuals for the workforce. Universities are crucial for solving emerging problems, conducting research and discovering new innovations for the benefit of the community.

So why do universities sometimes begin to lose credibility? Perhaps it's due to flawed governance and overly bureaucratic practices that disregard the true foundations and goals, leaving most graduates without significant bargaining power.

[SquallLeonhart]

This might be true, but we also have to accept the fact that a degree is much needed when we go for job hunting. Yes, some businesses will rather prefer hiring people with skill but yet most of the corporate world will prefer having a degree. Usually, it gets much easier for people with a university degree to get the job as compared to someone who took online courses. We can always upskill ourselves later but having a university degree should be a must because that is a strong proof about us having educational qualifications.

I do understand that the university degree might just be for name's sake and we might not really gain much knowledge there. That's when online courses come into picture. We can always upskill ourselves after having the degree so it will only increase the chances of us getting a well-paid job.

[Fiatless]

This is not true. Not for developed countries, at least. So if the universities or education system of a country is poor, it's the country that is to blame, not the universities themselves.
The universities of working systems or economies are still the best places to get knowledge. They are not rigid or slow or lack digital literacy at all. It's quite the opposite.
A university cannot teach you everything, but what it does is broaden your mind so you accumulate knowledge on your own, if you want to. The university will prepare you for the real world. They don't need to tell you specifically that if you put $10 into an investment, it may yield a profit, but the information and knowledge they have equipped you with would help you make that decision. Of course, you still need experience to be better at it.
 a degree from a university in a working system, you would be better than the person who just got a skill.

The notion that universities are going obsolete is being overhyped. Some of these online schools offer nothing more than certificates. They don't do much about practical learning.

Universities are still at the forefront of research and development. Most big companies and the government fund different research programs because of their benefits. Universities are not meant to be closed systems that don't accept inputs from their environment. Universities in some developed nations are open systems that use inputs from society to redesign their curriculum, making them ever relevant to society.

[Coyster]

In as much as people want to promote the idea that universities are useless and people do not need them anymore, that is very far from the truth. Universities are and will always be an integral part of our educational system. I don't know about some of you guys, but i learnt a lot when i was in the university and i was able to get a job with my degree and i've been growing in that industry ever since.

That said, even if you have the intentions of learning certain skills that is not yet a part of most univeristy curriculum, just having basic knowledge from the univeristy makes it smoother for you acquire such knowledge.

[DYING_S0UL]

Well for degree it's just a piece of paper, the real value lies in yourself, whether you have learned anything or not, whether you have acquired the skills you need to survive in this harsh world. This is what I think. As for universities, I have a different perspective. Where I'm from, I somewhat agree with you. Universities are becoming less innovative, there aren't room for growth, and they just keep revising the same old outdated curriculum every year. There aren't any actual learning, rather, it's just memorising bookish knowledge. Though not all universities are the same, there are some that still are making a change but the majority, in my opinion, are still following the old learning style. The world is changing every day, so these institutions need to embrace those changes too. Now, if we talk about universities from the first world, that's a totally different story. Those ones can still be trusted, I believe.

[terrific]

A person who values degree is still going to have it.
If I have a chance to finish it, I'll take it because not everyone is able to take them.
But if I have a chance to get hired as well because of my skills and a company does that, I won't let that opportunity slide.
What I like with many known companies now are hiring based on skills like google.
They don't look at your degree but I think it still has some points.

[allthebitandbobs]

Of course, universities still retain their relevance because the field of knowledge is so important and broad, and their existence goes beyond simply preparing individuals for the workforce. Universities are crucial for solving emerging problems, conducting research and discovering new innovations for the benefit of the community.

So why do universities sometimes begin to lose credibility? Perhaps it's due to flawed governance and overly bureaucratic practices that disregard the true foundations and goals, leaving most graduates without significant bargaining power.

There are tons of universities out there. Not each university is helpful when it comes to academic knowledge. Most of those universities just wants to make profits by deploying multiple courses without proper faculty and opening multiple seats for those courses. Some students do not really get a chance to join a renowned university, and these low-grade universities are the only option for them so they take the admission and later when they find out the reality, they will just bad-mouth the entire educational system.

We should exclude those universities and focus on those who really have well-educated staff and also offer only a few courses but have a higher placement rate. Campus placements will be a really good place to start for anyone who wants to start making a corporate living.

[colinistheman]

A person who values degree is still going to have it.
If I have a chance to finish it, I'll take it because not everyone is able to take them.
But if I have a chance to get hired as well because of my skills and a company does that, I won't let that opportunity slide.
What I like with many known companies now are hiring based on skills like google.
They don't look at your degree but I think it still has some points.

Currently, only a handful of companies and corporations recruit based on skills, and most of them are technology companies like Google, as you mentioned. Meanwhile, the majority of businesses in other sectors still place great importance on degree.

Furthermore, did you know that companies that don't require degrees only hire for specific positions, not across the entire company system? They only hire for low-level, temporary positions to people without qualifications, while key, senior, and leadership positions always require degrees.
Like the top leadership positions at Google, CEO Sundar Pichai and founders Larry Page/Sergey Brin all hold college degrees from prestigious universities.

[ancafe]

When employers value skills over degrees and the internet teaches faster than lecture halls, the authority of universities is now threatening and uninteresting;it is on trial.This a call for upgrade and reinvention; Universities that once shaped the future,today, the future is questioning whether it still needs them.

Many of my friends are university graduates, but are currently unemployed. Should we blame education? The human mindset needs to be slightly changed. Education is not a shortcut to a good job, but rather a place to seek knowledge. When education is used as a premise for a good job and perhaps someone can get it, the essence of education changes and its true meaning is lost.

This is what most people misunderstand, because they think higher education can lead to a job, when in fact it doesn't. Jobs are obtained through skills, because even those without higher education can still work, even though the institutions has now made it a rule that job applicants must have a higher education certificate.

[iamsange]

Many of my friends are university graduates, but are currently unemployed. Should we blame education? The human mindset needs to be slightly changed. Education is not a shortcut to a good job, but rather a place to seek knowledge. When education is used as a premise for a good job and perhaps someone can get it, the essence of education changes and its true meaning is lost.
This is what most people misunderstand, because they think higher education can lead to a job, when in fact it doesn't. Jobs are obtained through skills, because even those without higher education can still work, even though the institutions has now made it a rule that job applicants must have a higher education certificate.

Of course, there's no need to blame education because our goal in studying at university isn't to graduate and have a piece of paper that we might now have tucked away in a package and perhaps no longer need, but rather to serve as proof that we studied to seek knowledge and further insight. However, regardless of that, working doesn't necessarily require attending college. In this technologically advanced age, we certainly need to know how to earn money to ensure our current life goals aren't in disarray. We certainly have the means to achieve this.

This is a common thought among some people, whose experience is limited, making it natural for them to say such things because the reality isn't what they think. However, we still adhere to our current principles of working without many people knowing where we work, even though they know we're just unemployed, earning no money weekly, monthly, or even yearly.

[davis196]

I can tell from personal experience that Universities are a scam. I've studied economics at a University between 2009 and 2013 and I can tell you that I've wasted my time and got into student debt. Luckily, my student debt wasn't big and I paid it back for about 3 years. I was young and naive and I've wasted my time back in the day. Universities are useless, unless you want to become a doctor or engineer.
If you manage to find an employer, who trusts university diplomas, try to run away from that employer as fast as possible.
Only the fools trust the education system nowadays. The best knowledge is the knowledge you acquire by yourself, even if you make mistakes while acquiring it.

[Zadicar]

Many of my friends are university graduates, but are currently unemployed. Should we blame education? The human mindset needs to be slightly changed. Education is not a shortcut to a good job, but rather a place to seek knowledge. When education is used as a premise for a good job and perhaps someone can get it, the essence of education changes and its true meaning is lost.
This is what most people misunderstand, because they think higher education can lead to a job, when in fact it doesn't. Jobs are obtained through skills, because even those without higher education can still work, even though the institutions has now made it a rule that job applicants must have a higher education certificate.

Of course, there's no need to blame education because our goal in studying at university isn't to graduate and have a piece of paper that we might now have tucked away in a package and perhaps no longer need, but rather to serve as proof that we studied to seek knowledge and further insight. However, regardless of that, working doesn't necessarily require attending college. In this technologically advanced age, we certainly need to know how to earn money to ensure our current life goals aren't in disarray. We certainly have the means to achieve this.

This is a common thought among some people, whose experience is limited, making it natural for them to say such things because the reality isn't what they think. However, we still adhere to our current principles of working without many people knowing where we work, even though they know we're just unemployed, earning no money weekly, monthly, or even yearly.

Education has never been a promise of employment even though many people were taught to believe it was. Universities were built to shape thinking curiosity and awareness rather than guarantee income. When education is treated as a transaction for a job disappointment becomes inevitable. That disappointment then turns into blame which misses the real issue. Knowledge still has value but its value often appears in indirect ways over time.

Many graduates feel lost not because they failed but because expectations were poorly framed. Society quietly pushed the idea that degrees equal security. Reality works differently and always has. Work rewards usefulness adaptability and problem solving more than certificates. When that truth collides with years of schooling confusion follows. The problem is not education itself but the story told around it. Skills are what move people forward in the real world. Skills can be learned inside classrooms or far outside them. Some people gain them through formal study while others gain them through repetition curiosity and trial.

[knowngunman]

Do you think cybersecurity, coding, entrepreneurship, and other tech skills are the only professions in the world. Can a student learn courses like medicine and surgery online?
 

I would not trust a doctor who got his medical knowledge by watching medical videos on youtube for 2 months... The same way I would not trust a physicist who primarily majored in big bang theory (the show).

All those big industry certifications are bullshit, designed towards creating half-baked intellectuals with no real deeper knowledge.

Two months? That's a quiet low creteria from you. No matter how long you practice, as long as you acquire your skill from YouTube, I can never allow you to operate on me with my two eyes open. Other aspects, I can compromise but as far as it is health related, I won't subscribe to it. I wonder how people assume they can learn anything from online and become successful to the extent that they undervalue university education. One thing about universities is they instilled a good character and working ethics on learners. It's not just about acquiring knowledge on a specific field, it teaches discipline as well. The availability of these other options (online learning) is to aid learning and never to discard the traditional ways.

[Coyster]

If you manage to find an employer, who trusts university diplomas, try to run away from that employer as fast as possible.
Only the fools trust the education system nowadays.

I don't know what part of the world you are in, but in my country, a lot of employers still hire people based on their degree and how well they can present their knowledge in employment-based tests and interviews.

There is nothing so wrong with the univeristy system. There are definitely courses that lack practical use in the real world. But i usually advise people that before going for such courses, you ought to understand what you are getting into and weigh your chances of doing anything meaningful with it, if not, don't do it.

[Cookdata]

The fact that school professors and lectures aren't aren't to the extent that they can be considered wealthy in the society is affecting the interest of people to actually study or have anything to do with school.
Imagine being thought business administration or management by Someone who hasn't yet managed a globally successful business or owned anyone to their name.
Also the school system should start reflecting the present reality, the system is too rigid and the use the same old style and work to teach students even if new ways like steaming, blogging and so on should make it way to the curriculum.

An acedemic line isn't equipped with money for show off, it's a place for learning and research. Wealth isn't only restricted to academic line, literally any person that work for another person can never be considered as wealthy person. To be a wealthy person, you need to be an independent person that people work for, you can't make money if you work for people. I doubt if there is a single person on the forbe list that has become a wealthy person by working for people.

I don't care with this gimmicks of degree valuation and society opinion about it standards,  if university degrees are not relevant to society I'm pretty sure the society will be in a state of steady underdevelopment. It's the degree holders that provide solutions to all problems we have in the society. People say Steve Jobs dropped out of school but the ideas and structural designs are coming from graduate that work for him because he has the money, the means and the structural environment to make it work.

We should give credit to people that are making the world become a better place even if they don't get paid as due and not make the internet feed people that don't want to get educated with lies.

[livingfree]

We should give credit to people that are making the world become a better place even if they don't get paid as due and not make the internet feed people that don't want to get educated with lies.

Nowadays, people like to believe what they want to believe and everything they see in the internet is what is a fact for them without even verifying them.

Degrees are still important even you don't apply and use that once you have graduated.

Most of the people still believe that it's an important achievement for a person to get so that they can move on with any trade they want to pursue in life.

Others don't go after it anymore because they see it as not as useful as it is when they have a different path. And while those selected few who are simply genius brains that don't have to go after it for focusing on single thing with doing business like the usual Mark and Steve stories we know of.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Do you think cybersecurity, coding, entrepreneurship, and other tech skills are the only professions in the world. Can a student learn courses like medicine and surgery online?
 

I would not trust a doctor who got his medical knowledge by watching medical videos on youtube for 2 months... The same way I would not trust a physicist who primarily majored in big bang theory (the show).

Is it even possible to get grounded in such knowledge that cheaply? No career path is learned passively from the scratch.

Some career paths like health-related ones are very sensitive and is what must be learned much actively, with repeated practices and supervision.

In the area of tech, you cannot watch only YouTube videos and claim to be grounded in it, especially if you're new to the field.

Learning resources is for additional learning and never for foundational knowledge (quote me anywhere). Deep knowledge and experience is always gotten hybrid and not just online. In tech we've meetups, bootcamps, internships with lots of collaborations and team works before you can boast of being good.

[cutecui]

In theory, yes, ethical values have been lost in university institutions. Many people are successful without the need to complete their studies... they have had great businesses and economic success. It's all a matter of personal performance. 

[DanWalker]

If you manage to find an employer, who trusts university diplomas, try to run away from that employer as fast as possible.
Only the fools trust the education system nowadays.

I don't know what part of the world you are in, but in my country, a lot of employers still hire people based on their degree and how well they can present their knowledge in employment-based tests and interviews.

Similarly, in the country where I live, companies and employers still recruit based on qualifications, especially the larger companies. They still prioritize candidates with qualifications over skills, contrary to what many people are saying.

I myself have applied to and worked at several different companies, and honestly, I've never seen a company hire without requiring a degree. Especially for key positions with high salaries, a university degree is a minimum requirement and experience is mandatory.

I really want to know who says that universities are no longer trustworthy and that degrees are losing value. Where do they stand in the job market? Do they hold good, high-paying, and stable jobs?

[michellee]

People still trust the university as they will send their teenagers to study there. Although their kids can learn from Youtube or other sources, parents still want their children to have a university certificate. That makes them proud when they see their children graduate.

In the third countries, university diplomas are still considered by companies to address them for working with them. They don't just see the skills from a fresh graduate but also the university label.

It is tough for universities to compete with online learning as they must solve this challenge. They can't just rely on their traditional methods to stay on top of education especially if they want to be the place to get the education.