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January 07, 2026, 07:25:17 PM
Last edit: January 07, 2026, 08:49:39 PM by Satofan44
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The bitter truth, I realised what you want to express. But still quality posters are rewarded by merits. Instead of thinking about earning merits, if someone focuses on learning and contributing to the forum, it's still possible to earn merits and rank up. It looks like you are irritated by the methods of how users are spending their merits.
There are different reason for which someone might want merit, I am not looking into that right now in this case. For example, someone might try to contribute a lot and then be disappointed with the amount of merit that they've received. Merit could be seen as a proxy metric for validation of contribution by some. Wrong or right? Who cares, that is how these things will be perceived by some people.

I've said it before somewhere, merit here is basically like an Instagram style like button. The seniors have fully corrupted it to the core and turned it into a popularity contest, not a metric of quality as it is intended. There are many private merit blacklists and emotions involved where they should be none, plenty of "I won't merit you because I don't like you" or "I will merit my own people a lot" stuff is going on.

If I have very little of something, why would I give it away? This question can only be really asked of merit sources, not of average users. I like hoarding my sMerit. Sometimes I use it to acknowledge a good post that I have read but will not reply to, effectively ending the discussion with that (at least temporarily).
It's true no one is forcing you to spend your merits, but if all the users think this way, then merit circulation will drop. I admit merit sources are obliged to spend their merits; otherwise, they will lost them. But there is no benefit if you are hoarding your merits as well. From your perspective you can reward as well, and so far I can see you are spending your merits as well. I often encourage merit holders to help other users; just follow your own standards and reward what you think is a quality post. You can measure quality posts based on your own criteria, but help other users. That is also a kind of contribution to the forum.
Most of the merit being given comes from merit sources, they are the ones that should not be conservative with their merits like I am. I don't think that my decision to be conservative has a lot of impact on the overall distribution of merit ohe forum. Anyway, I am not a good example to use at all because I am extremely hesitant to give lowly ranked members merit (this is also wrong, but in 99.9% of the cases they are posting junk so the practice currently is valid) due to the number of account farmers around here. Lastly, any system that does not have coercion for a specific way of behaving will have all kinds of members. Some will be very liberal with it, others will be very conservative with it. Neither is wrong because they balance each other out. If everyone was very liberal with the merit, the account farmers would have it much easier than they already do.

For real you have said something true and just the fact, as it is what it is and it is now becoming more and more the actual situation. The real posts that deserves the merits are not even gaining them but they're some comments you'll see that they give merits to, you'll begin to doubt the process. But hell yeah, they have the right to choose who they want to give them (merits) to so we can't come out to question their decisions.
The thing is that only very few merit behaviors are disallowed and they are often very hard to prove, especially behaviors that relate to biased merit giving. Proving intent is hard, and someone can always mount up all kinds of defenses ranging from "I didn't read that post or find it interesting" to all sorts of things. Because of this it is unlikely that a member can create change in this system. Therefore, if you need merit for whatever reason just adapt yourself into the process and the system, and keep quiet. Don't cause trouble to get yourself into the spotlight, that is how most of the farmers or even average members are doing it.  Wink

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January 09, 2026, 12:03:05 PM
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Therefore, if you need merit for whatever reason just adapt yourself into the process and the system, and keep quiet. Don't cause trouble to get yourself into the spotlight, that is how most of the farmers or even average members are doing it. Wink

In this case, I would emphasize this phrase to the OP. It's not surprising that he ignored my first post in this thread, as he knows I'm telling the truth about him having another account (at least I know of one) that has risen remarkably in rank by exchanging merits using one of the methods you suggested. After I warned him early on in his posts that transferring merits to alternative accounts is not encouraged, he focused on the second account. Anyone can compare his style of speaking, which I pointed out, and he seemed to agree but lied about it being his "girlfriend." However, the posting styles of the "girlfriend" and the OP are very similar.

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=El_Tammy&to=Mhizlove

OP, I wouldn't have raised this issue if I hadn't seen the blatant lies you've created in this thread. Keep exchanging merits with your easily trackable list; business as usual, nothing new.

Since the PM was from me and there's nothing hidden, I see no reason not to show it. The post has been edited by the OP to remove noticeable phrases.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5559742.msg65830062#msg65830062
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6583/65835971.html

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January 10, 2026, 11:53:43 PM
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Since the PM was from me and there's nothing hidden, I see no reason not to show it. The post has been edited by the OP to remove noticeable phrases.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5559742.msg65830062#msg65830062
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6583/65835971.html
I guess very few people on the forum can warn with such messages and its for your own good OP, whatever lovesmayfamilis said in PM is going to be helpful for you and if you're in some kind of multi accounting and you're meriting those accounts to get the ranks higher in order to be able to join signature campaigns then you should fix your that habit and stick to only one account.

Trust me having only a single trust worthy account it better than having 10 accounts. Just be yourself and give up on greed of growing multiple accounts and instead focus on building only one account and you'll see merits coming to you if you contribute good stuff. I know it's sometimes hard to get as many merits as reputable members but still you'll get some merits trust me.

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January 11, 2026, 01:33:32 AM
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In this case, I would emphasize this phrase to the OP. It's not surprising that he ignored my first post in this thread, as he knows I'm telling the truth about him having another account (at least I know of one) that has risen remarkably in rank by exchanging merits using one of the methods you suggested. After I warned him early on in his posts that transferring merits to alternative accounts is not encouraged, he focused on the second account. Anyone can compare his style of speaking, which I pointed out, and he seemed to agree but lied about it being his "girlfriend." However, the posting styles of the "girlfriend" and the OP are very similar.

Take note OP.

This is how you get merits. The quoted post is interesting, informative, enlightening, and funny. It is also useful (for me and you, don't know if you realize it) and educational. Those are pretty much my criteria for deciding if a post is meritable, and they're all combined into 1 post.

The best case scenario is you heard about this forum from someone else who was running multiple accounts and decided to do the same. The more probable scenario is you've been here for a long time and have lots of accounts. Did it ever occur to you that if you put your whole brain into just 1 account, instead of dividing it among many, you'd be more likely to write posts worth meriting?

 
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January 13, 2026, 04:51:05 PM
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2. Follow around those that give out merits frequently and for pretty useless posts, post often where they post and around the times when they post.
3. Agree with and be nice to merit sources and merit givers, even if you have to fake it. Find ways to agree with their post, no matter how wrong or useless their post is.

Oh damn, m'man.  That right up above is just some terrible advice.  I'm a merit source, and I generally can tell when I'm being tailed by shitposters looking for merits just like the jackals they are (or I at least can catch a whiff of their excremental presence).  Anyone who's got merits to give shouldn't be handing them out for useless posts--even though I can't deny that it happens more often than I'd like to see.

And yeah, pretend those merit sources are just huge penises roaming around the forum waiting for a warmed-up oral cavity.  That's never obvious.  I know a faker when I see one, even if I've been fooled before.

Now I'm left scratching my head wondering how the hell you would up earning merits by writing crap like this.  Maybe you ought to suggest padding your posts as hard as you can, regardless of whether you make sense or you're repeating yourself or are coherent or redundant or on-topic or just keep saying the same thing over and over or you're repeating yourself or are coherent or redundant or on-topic or just keep saying the same thing over and over or you're repeating yourself or are coherent or redundant or on-topic or just keep saying the same thing over and over....you get me?

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Oh damn, m'man.  That right up above is just some terrible advice.
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Oh damn, m'man.  That right up above is just some terrible advice.
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Now I'm left scratching my head wondering how the hell you would up earning merits by writing crap like this.
Your sarcasm detector is broken Tongue

Oh.  You know what else is broken?  Those brake pads between my ears that used to, and still ought to, slow me down enough to read things thoroughly.  And when I say broken, I mean smashed to atoms and buried deep in a landfill by used condoms and other disgusting entropy.

Ahem.  I offer my apologies to that poster whom I might have besmirched inadvertently. 

LoyceV, you didn't get to be 5th most recognized on BPIP and wind up with the most earned merit on the whole forum for nothing.  I bow before your grandeur (after I'm done with Foxpup, of course).

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Oh damn, m'man.  That right up above is just some terrible advice.
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Now I'm left scratching my head wondering how the hell you would up earning merits by writing crap like this.
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Oh.  You know what else is broken?  Those brake pads between my ears that used to, and still ought to, slow me down enough to read things thoroughly.  And when I say broken, I mean smashed to atoms and buried deep in a landfill by used condoms and other disgusting entropy.
Even though you may be writing in terms that seem not understandable clearly what you mean, I still understand you and it’s quite unfortunate that abusers broke the glass used in holding vulnerable heart but then it gets to be an effect on both people who would have deserved it in the very future which is now but however, the fact remains abusers will always abuse eve if you shut the door.

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January 13, 2026, 06:19:13 PM
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Even though you may be writing in terms that seem not understandable clearly what you mean, I still understand you and it’s quite unfortunate that abusers broke the glass used in holding vulnerable heart but then it gets to be an effect on both people who would have deserved it in the very future which is now but however, the fact remains abusers will always abuse eve if you shut the door.

I think what I write should very clearly express what I'm trying to get across to whoever might read it--even if I'm a mistaken clod as in this case.  There might be a language barrier, but SIR, that has nothing whatever to do with my crazy skills as a digital scribbler.

What I've italicized above almost made me slap the spectacles off of my brow; there is the future and then there is now.  The two are as different as oranges, rectangles, apples and/or a pregnant sow.  Please tell me you hadn't any difficulty parsing that.

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January 13, 2026, 06:58:27 PM
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Firstly, I want everyone to have an open mind towards merits. Op stated that he is surprised that people who put in so much efforts in their work don't get merits. We all should understand that merits is  not only reward for efforts made. People should put in efforts and consider it their contribution to the growth of the forum. As much as the you think the post deserves some merits, you should know that sense of judgement is different, and some persons who may find the post interesting may not have sMerits to give out. There is no general guidelines for giving out merits. But as a writer, do not chase merits, put in efforts as usual and you'll get the visibility you didn't chase after.

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