Gambling on small divisions

[Agbamoni]

Banning the game, team or the match just because it is possible to bet on that match doesn't even make sense, anyone can chose to include to bet on a match and if government doesn't like then they should take action on the one who make bets not the team who does nothing, this just shows how poor the management of those federations and they have no way of growing to the next stage in the particular sport.

The government is not meant to ban the team or league. Rather, they should restrict them from being listed in gambling sites and sportbooks. A lot has happened in small divisions regarding gambling. It is still happening to date. If strict actions are not taken, the gambling industry will be financially affected due to fixed games in small divisions. Another thing is proper coordination. Small divisions have less attention from the federation, so they are taken less seriously.

[DaNNy001]

I don't have the courage to bet on smaller leagues or amateur leagues; corruption is rampant there, and the vast majority of athletes and teams collude for personal gain. The low salaries and the opportunity to make easy money completely undermine the credibility of betting on these leagues. I think most people feel the same way and avoid this type of betting.

in these leagues things match fixing,.delays and manipulation exists..All these dishonest activities goes on without being undetected because the supervision is poor...But a lot of bettors prefer to bet on small based on other reasons, it is believed that smaller divisions aree very profitable because the teams are predictable...prominent teams on the other hand are known for disappointing a lot

[Davidvictorson]

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

We all know that local amateur leagues and match fixing scandals are like 5 $ 6. To preserve the sanctity of these leagues, the football federation in charge has got to do what they have got to do so that they don’t become irrelevant. I want to believe that some people still enjoy good football and watching a game with a lot of irregularities brings about loss of passion for the league and eventually, it would die off leading to the loss of dreams for genuine youngsters who wants to grow and play at the professional level.

[AVE5]

It's understandable that federations are genuinely concerned about betting in amateur divisions, as these championships are much more vulnerable to manipulation. Limiting bets might even make sense in this context.

The lower division leagues always make a risky bet but due to these possibilities of match fixing and the grip on regulations there is not so tight.

I don’t like gambling on lower divisions and probably wouldn’t. That’s due to the fact that, I can’t rely on statistics alone to make insightful predictions. Having no idea of the players and how they would perform, that I find challenging.

Maybe when you find betting typically fun on betting on contenders when you've ideal of their teams or not but just accept the concept is to make your bets in trial to checkmate on your psychological mindsets, I don't it'd be an error of betting in the low division games.
Betting on manipulate able events or non manipulative events is just same thing when we considers the fun but in a nutshell, it just feels so absorbing that the gambling platforms doesn't want you to win because outcomes can't be reviewed genuinely because those teams can actually be easily manipulated.

[rdluffy]

It's a very difficult situation to deal with to be honest
With low salaries or even no salary at all, minor leagues and amateur leagues are very exposed to betting
It's very difficult to get caught, obviously, because it's difficult to prove something like that unless it's very explicit

Here in Brazil, for example, it's very difficult to cancel a game for any reason whatsoever

[bitbollo]

Which leagues we are talking about and in which country?
If you see some matches in Africa (even local leagues) odds and upcome are clearly not related to the odds...
 
In the EU, in countries like Italy, you can bet easily (and legally) up to 4th division!
I am not surprised that some international brands could not accept these bets...
Anyway... there is the same issue as always. If you gamble in something "shady"... its really easy for your account get banned / money restricted and so on...

[tread93]

In some countries amateur federations ban gambling and sometimes even will cancel a match for discovering there's a market opened for it.

If it's not a crucial match then either team gets no points. If it's a final then a tribunal may decide when the next replacement match could be and it could even be at a neutral venue with no tickets so the teams will bear all the costs with no income. This makes gambling on such situations extremely undesired by the teams in spite of there might being demand by viewers and fans.

I know an instance in local amateur divisions where matches have been cancelled apparently because some English site had decided to include playoffs of local amateurs in their gambling. It was discovered only during the semi finals though and some cried foul when the referees utilized this rule because one team was doing better. The semis where then schedules to take place without an audience which burdened the teams because one of them would be rising divisions and could really use some extra cash to upgrade their roster.

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

Wow, I mean I feel like that is taking it too far. Stopping an entire match because someone is gambling ? That is crazy talk. Even moving it to a completely private arena where no one can watch, where is the fun in that? That is when things have been taken wayyyyy too seriously and these folks need to tone it down a notch on their hunger thirst lol. I feel like they shouldn't have stuch strict restrictions on this stuff because gambling as well as gossip will still end up happening no matter what!

[iv4n]

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

As some other members already asked... about which country we are talking about? And which league/division? Provide more info, and it will be easier to do some additional checking and comparisons.

I don't know what to think... if someone had good reasons to believe that the game is rigged because there is a market for it, why not stop it? Maybe, just maybe, they had similar situations before, and they simply don't wish to participate in that scheme. And that is understandable...

[CryptoYar]

Gambling usually is not allowed in non pro sports groups to keep truth and goodness of game because unpaid players are more likely to be talked into fixing match by gifts of money. Although it seems unfair to cancel game during playing or take it to stadium with no people watching, groups take such choices, as they cannot be sure that game will be fair when people begin to bet on it.

It is very important due to new issue known as Ghost Matches which is mostly done by criminals that provide betting websites with fake information on matches that are not even happening or are being played by other people.

Though such rules are bad for local teams in terms of money and fans, they are made to stop outside gamblers from changing local activity into fake tool. By stopping game or removing fans, league also tries to make sure that victory is based on skill as instead of illegal secret deal.

[ZeroVinsonN]

No one wants to pay to watch a fixed match, as regrettable as it might seem these rules are only being put in place to make sure that people don't take advantage of how low level these divisions are to push them into match fixing, but also putting these rules in place could ultimately hinder themselves teams from ever progressing financially since they are not selling any tickets clubs need to be able to make money somehow and selling of tickets is one major way for them to generate funds so removing this option will really hinder their progress.

[yahoo62278]

In some countries amateur federations ban gambling and sometimes even will cancel a match for discovering there's a market opened for it.

If it's not a crucial match then either team gets no points. If it's a final then a tribunal may decide when the next replacement match could be and it could even be at a neutral venue with no tickets so the teams will bear all the costs with no income. This makes gambling on such situations extremely undesired by the teams in spite of there might being demand by viewers and fans.

I know an instance in local amateur divisions where matches have been cancelled apparently because some English site had decided to include playoffs of local amateurs in their gambling. It was discovered only during the semi finals though and some cried foul when the referees utilized this rule because one team was doing better. The semis where then schedules to take place without an audience which burdened the teams because one of them would be rising divisions and could really use some extra cash to upgrade their roster.

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

Take away the gambling and problem solved, save it for the professional leagues and let the athletes compete and show their stuff and hopefully get recognized and drafted to the bigger teams. Cancelling a match or multiple matches only hurts young athletes chances to be noticed and be a star IMO.

[casey15]

I think it is ok.  It is one way of protecting citizen from getting defraud or scammed by the match  through match fixing or coercing players to giveaway the game.  Since we all know that small divisions payment isn't that big like those major league, it is easier for the player to get swayed of amount higher than their monthly wages.

This is true and will make the match unfair . But on The other hand we know that these smaller divisions too have tournaments just like the way we have world cups and these wagers can be a way of raising funds .. because just like you have said, the leagues do not pull in so much money as the big games we know and as such they'll need more streams of income to be able to hold matches and tournament and give awards. I will say that for friendly matches, there can be restrictions as to whether bettings are allowed or nit but fir major tournaments where players are genuinely fighting for a cup, there should be less restrictions and people should be allowed to show support through betting for their teams.

[Zlantann]

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

I support sports federations to do all they can to protect against match fixing and insider bets. These criminal activities could kill the beautiful games of sports. But cancellation of bets in games that have already started is extreme. They should put in place measures that restrict such bets before the games start.

I feel such countries don't like gambling, they're against it. However, there's nothing anyone can do about the cancelation of those matches because it was done by the government. I wonder if that country is an Islamic country.

If I'm leaving in such country, I wouldn't bother myself to bet on their local matches. I will use VPN to gamble in a global casino on big leagues and enjoy the fun. I can't say if it's right or wrong because there must be a reason why the government of that country is against gambling.

It is not about love or dislike for gambling but regulation. These low leagues are prone to manipulations. Insider trading and match fixing is common in these amateur leagues which increases the need for close monitoring. I don't also think OP is talking about major local leagues but those in lower divisions.

[Cointxz]

What do you think about this situation? Should federations have such restrictions against gdmbling in their amateur and lower divisions? And also do you think it's fair for such rules to be enforced in practice after a match has started?

The gambling (sports betting) involved doesn’t affect the match unless there’s a match fixing.

I don’t agree that match should be canceled if there’s already betting about the match but sportsbook usually give a much lower odds for small division games due to its being small market and higher chance to have match fixing

[danherbias07]

Is it possible that they are stopping it so that no one can manipulate the game?

I don't bet on small leagues because I know they could be rigged. If they see that more bettors are coming from Team 1, then they will probably do anything to let Team 2 win. Either paying the referee, the coach, or the team itself to lose the game, so that everyone will be happy when they get a share of that money.

Unlike how it goes in professional sports. There are big punishments when proven that someone is rigging the game, and that's why only players are doing it by pumping their stats when someone took a bet for them, or they did it themself.

[lixer]

Amateur levels should not care about the betting, it's outside of their control and they can't do anything about it. Like England has 10+ divisions of football, and I have watched games (on youtube) played at 10th division even, and that game is played by people who either do not get paid, or get paid very tiny amount that you wouldn't play for, like 100 pounds for a game, which is nothing.

So you have to understand, this is not really what you should be aiming for, it is not going to really be possible for these people to stop gambling if they are given the chance. And in places like polymarket, where it's p2p betting, you are going to see it be very possible as long as there are minimum two people willing to bet on those games.

[Findingnemo]

A lot has happened in small divisions regarding gambling. It is still happening to date. If strict actions are not taken, the gambling industry will be financially affected due to fixed games in small divisions. Another thing is proper coordination. Small divisions have less attention from the federation, so they are taken less seriously.

It is not the job of casino or even government to oversee those kind of fixing, but the respective sports authority should take care of it, and sportsbooks just list every game that has possibility of users betting on it and they may not even aware of any fixing and if there is it also just affect the casino just as the user.

[rachael9385]

I don't have the courage to bet on smaller leagues or amateur leagues; corruption is rampant there, and the vast majority of athletes and teams collude for personal gain. The low salaries and the opportunity to make easy money completely undermine the credibility of betting on these leagues. I think most people feel the same way and avoid this type of betting.

I guess the reason for the whole corrupt system is the fact that they are underpaid which is very bad, this can be as a result of poor management, or the league does not make enough money. What do you do when the season is over? do you take a break till the main leagues resume because most of the leagues that would be active during those times would actually be lower divisions

[Judith87403]

The intention that is behind these rules is understandable. Mature football is very much vulnerable when it comes to manipulation, hence federations attempt to take away all incentive for fixing match. In such sense, to ban betting markets may secure integrity. Haven said that, enforcement equally matters. To apply the rule at the mid of competition or after matches is beginning to feel unfair, mostly if teams and officials has no form of control over an external betting site opening a market. It usually ends up punishing clubs that are fragile financially.  An approach that is fairer would be clear monitoring pre season, intervention that is early, and sanctions that is aimed at betting operators instead of teams. Safeguarding integrity does not come at the expense of justice sporting.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

I know an instance in local amateur divisions where matches have been cancelled apparently because some English site had decided to include playoffs of local amateurs in their gambling.

I don't even think that canceling a match serves the situation right because if they still reply that match, what's the tendency that another gambling market will not be opened for it maybe it will be done secretly that time so that the football officials will not find out. I was thinking that the best solution is just to warn every gambling sites not to add the game to their options and anyone that disobeys should be sanctioned. I'm picturing a situation where by, if they cancel a game that was won my team A and then they fixed back the match and then team B wins, it's going to make the other team feel bad.