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January 30, 2026, 07:58:38 PM
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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think.
I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
Underdog are teams that have been known to always keep losing their previous matches, and likewise also stand a very low percentage chance of winning their next game due to their poor performances. And as such, what how bookmakers thinks and calculate their odds is by checking their previous performance and probably head to head count with the team they intend to play with, if truly they stand a chance of winning or not, and if the chance is very low, then the Bookmaker will probably give the underdog team high odds, since knowing fully well that they will lose, whereas the team that has a high chance of winning gets small odd. Since gambling is business, and the more gamblers loses, the more the casinos makes more profits.

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Also I will like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
These are some of the questions I have in mind, and I prefer to ask more experienced members. I believe this kind of question can be valuable for everyone, both beginners and experts.
In a scenario when two underdog team plays a game, what bookmakers does is select the team known to have a higher success rate to win and give low odds, whereas the opposite gets small odd, which has a higher of winning. And that's how casinos keep making profits when people gamble on high odds and loses their bet.

 
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January 30, 2026, 08:28:36 PM
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The bookmakers set odds based on the possibility of each outcome from the cumulative options of bettors, which causes the rise and fall of odds before and during matches. So in the case of two under dogs playing a match, there would be a team amongst the two with the most possibility for a win generally, with a better statistics so the odds would be slightly different in favor of that team and could be affected in a situation of bettors variation or bookmakers manipulation.

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January 30, 2026, 08:42:01 PM
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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
These are some of the questions I have in mind, and I prefer to ask more experienced members. I believe this kind of question can be valuable for everyone, both beginners and experts.
The head-to-head or the history of the match between the two teams is considered.  Teams that have won more might be seen as favourites, while the other would be seen as underdogs. The present performance of clubs is also considered.  If a team is showing an extraordinary performance in a session, they might be seen as the favourite regardless of the historical record of both teams

Both teams cannot be underdogs in a match. One would have better statistics or past records than another. When would also be performing better than the other.

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January 30, 2026, 09:00:46 PM
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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
These are some of the questions I have in mind, and I prefer to ask more experienced members. I believe this kind of question can be valuable

We are not the bookmakers so we can't predict how they might tend to define how an underdogs works relating to different teams,but having similar cases,I would try to explain this in the term in which it is widely known. Therefore an underdog has been known to be a team having or undergoing consistent loses, but when two like terms as this comes together they repel because one tends not to succumb to the other making it spectacular such that one gains over the other.

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January 30, 2026, 09:27:24 PM
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There are many things the bookmakers use in fixing their odds, not because one or two losses. Considerable number of consecutive losses is definitely one of them but there are other indices such absence of certain players due to injuries, the line up of matches the club have and the priority of the match, management crisis and others. Some of these data come up when odds have already been fixed that is why you see the odds changing (going up or down) prior to the start of the match. There is no specific number of losses a team will incur before they are considered underdogs, bookmakers analysis matches on case-by-case basis.
Well said, let me add to it.

Most teams are considered underdogs, no matter the opponent they face. Meaning, which team would be an underdog varies due to the teams playing against each other. The odds mostly justify which is the underdog and which is the favorite to win.

For example, Chelsea can be the underdog against a team like Arsenal. While Wolves which is in the bottom of the league table, is an underdog to whichever team they face.

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January 30, 2026, 10:11:32 PM
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I dont think bookmakers consider team an underdog based on the amount of games lost but if we're talking about relegation game lost in league can be use to judge.
Based on my understand and i believe. I think what they use to consider an underdog team is the team current performance, game venue advantage, key players health condition, betting volume on a certain team, and other features that give a team upper hand than opponent.

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January 30, 2026, 10:31:15 PM
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I think there's no direct answer to the question. Bookmarkers often get odds from an odds provider and odds providers will be responsible for deciding who gets to be the underdog. The good thing is that they don't always get it right and as such, you can take advantage of it as a value bet.

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January 30, 2026, 10:45:44 PM
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I think there's no direct answer to the question. Bookmarkers often get odds from an odds provider and odds providers will be responsible for deciding who gets to be the underdog. The good thing is that they don't always get it right and as such, you can take advantage of it as a value bet.

They have algorithm how to determine which team is the underdog and favorite. Hence, it will vary even throughout the game as it is considering also the pulse of the market, the audience, the team's history and others. This is why there's no concrete criteria as to how the site is determining the underdog or the favorite.

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January 30, 2026, 10:50:16 PM
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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?


A team can be in the state of being an underdog only when they are playing with higher team who obviously by the bookmakers and even those experience fans and players are aware that the team "A" as underdog is far not to be compared with the bigger team "B".
So it is likely that when these teams plays against each other on the streak, so they could loose too unless the underdog has to buckle up with better performance in the future.
However, underdog can always be exergerated as a team having lower capacity with the other but sometimes game outcome turns out unexpected which is just the unpredictability in gambling.

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January 30, 2026, 10:58:19 PM
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Underdog are teams that have been known to always keep losing their previous matches, and likewise also stand a very low percentage chance of winning their next game due to their poor performances. And as such, what how bookmakers thinks and calculate their odds is by checking their previous performance and probably head to head count with the team they intend to play with, if truly they stand a chance of winning or not, and if the chance is very low, then the Bookmaker will probably give the underdog team high odds, since knowing fully well that they will lose, whereas the team that has a high chance of winning gets small odd. Since gambling is business, and the more gamblers loses, the more the casinos makes more profits.
Not a proper definition of underdogs anyway. I always have the idea of underdog to be a team that has a the slightest chance of winning in a feature game.
Any team can be an underdog from my definition while yours is different. Well, there are teams too who are known for losing very often, those teams are mostly seen as underdog regardless of the opponent they face.

Bookmakers have a special away of knowing which team will be underdog. They do deep analysis before the game is near. I have also noticed how the odds can change in real time.

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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it.
The performance of the individual players will be evaluated from the recent past previous games, as well as the fitness conditions of the players. I think home advantage is also put into consideration. These metrics do not always determine the outcome of the game, because they're not always accurate and things can change because things remain unpredictable. This is why you could have an underdog winning against a team that is expected by all to win a game.

If a team's recent performances is poor compared to that of the other team, that is the team they are to play, as well as having the lesser number of fitter players, they are the underdog of the encounter.

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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
These are some of the questions I have in mind, and I prefer to ask more experienced members. I believe this kind of question can be valuable for everyone, both beginners and experts.
I think they based it on past games, players availability, homecourt advantage to say the most to be consider an underdog or vice versa. I think this is easy to understand once you get accustomed to the game and you'll be able to differentiate it. There are a lot of site that lets you know whose the underdog and the favorite for an upcoming match and I think you need to utilize that.

 
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January 30, 2026, 11:57:59 PM
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Underdog isn't about losing streak, it's called an underdog precisely because they're a weak team that was initially not favored, but became favored. In the PL, we have Sunderland who are playing & performing well this season, meanwhile, in other leagues like Ligue 1, we see the greatness of RC Lens. I don't understand other people's definitions, whether they really understand football or not.

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Today at 01:04:22 AM
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I often see people call a team an “underdog” just because they’re on a losing streak, but I’m not sure that’s how bookmakers think. I’m actually interested in knowing what formula bookmakers use to define it. Also, I’d like to know how they handle situations when two underdogs play against each other... like how do they calculate odds?
These are some of the questions I have in mind, and I prefer to ask more experienced members. I believe this kind of question can be valuable for everyone, both beginners and experts.

I would assume it depends on the volume of people who bet against or in favor of those teams which are considered to be underdogs. If they are actually going though a bad streak of losses, then naturally more people will bet against the rival of the underdog, which would ultimately affect the odds in favor of whoever is facing the underdog.
Bookies do not decide by their own when a team has underdog status and when they are the favorite one to win, it depends on the market and the flow of money itself.

That explains how those teams considered underdog have unfavorable odds in different bookies at the same time.

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