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Today at 03:02:38 AM
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Then I think you should be upgrading your network, especially when it is too slow because most time when you see the forum keeps displaying captcha issues it is assumed that your network is extremely low, which you have to move to the areas that has higher internet connectivity to enable access the forum freely. To be frank I can't remembered when last I faces issues to access the forum because I have a faster internet connection.
If your Internet connection quality is too low, let's deal with it by yourself as it's not the forum issue or Cloudflare issues.

If you use Tor for connection to the forum, surely you will have very big troubles with your captcha solving speed, sometimes you will fail and have to restart solving captcha again.

Fortunately, there is a captcha bypass code implemented by theymos years ago and if people know about that, they can use this code for bypassing captcha very easily even with Tor.

 
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Today at 06:08:30 AM
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I would have used it but anytime that I close my browser I will have to login again if want to use it again. The only thing is sometimes the captcha is slow to display do you know if it's a js problem?
I believe this will stop if you use your local IP.
What possibly I thought of that can cause it is the use of incognito or the use of Tor. But he can also change his browser because his browser can be an incognito one. The use of VPN can not cause it. So if he is using VPN before, no need to engage using it because it will not work.
Yes, Incognito is another possible cause because it deletes his browsing history and forces him to reapply.

I added the VPN based on my experience, so I couldn't have made a mistake on that. Don't forget that we have different VPNs, and you don't expect them to always behave the same.

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Today at 07:11:16 AM
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I added the VPN based on my experience, so I couldn't have made a mistake on that. Don't forget that we have different VPNs, and you don't expect them to always behave the same.
No, VPN is not the reason OP browser will be login him out of this forum, that is not possible and I am 100% certain about this. The work of the VPN is to make people have access to locations beyond people's ISPN IP addresses, it has nothing to do with affecting the browser the way OP described. I have used several VPNs on both phones and two different laptops on this forum with different browsers. I am not even expecting any VPN to do something like this to my browser and Bitcointalk account and none did.

It is very possible that a site can log out someone for changing to VPN or warned someone about it, but that is not how Bitcointalk is.

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Today at 07:46:23 AM
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I do not want to use the bypass link because I saw that it can be used to brute somebody's password.
Your bypass link is unique to your account. So you should treat it as a security token, and not share it with others.

Unfortunately, your captcha link will be stored in any browser history you use it with. It would probably be incrementally better if the captcha bypass could optionally be passed as an additional field when logging in.

So the login page would have inputs for:
- username
- password
- "traditional" captcha -- this would be unsolved if using a bypass code
- bypass code

When attempting to login, the backend would validate that either the "traditional" captcha has a "solved" status, or the bypass code is associated with the username (and is unexpired), and if either of these validations pass, the password would be validated.

Back on topic; in general, using the capthca bypass is safe, and wont allow your password to be brute forced. You just need to be sure that no attacker gets access to your unique code. 
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Today at 08:51:43 AM
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Unfortunately, your captcha link will be stored in any browser history you use it with.
This isn't something I worry about. If you're using your personal accounts on a system that isn't yours, you face much bigger threats than just this link.

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Today at 09:25:25 AM
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Unfortunately, your captcha link will be stored in any browser history you use it with.
This isn't something I worry about. If you're using your personal accounts on a system that isn't yours, you face much bigger threats than just this link.
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to own their own devices. There are also some instances in which it may make sense to use a public computer to improve privacy.

If you are using a shared or public device, and use your captcha bypass link, your bypass code is just sitting there, and the computer doesn't even need to have any prior monitoring or logging software for the information to leak. It is just there. Also, anyone with access to your personal device will have access to your captcha bypass link, even if they cannot access your keychain or password manager.

Using a link incrementally decreases security. It is not a "game changer", but taken with other incremental issues, there are some instances in which overall security is poor. 
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Today at 09:33:43 AM
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Not everyone has the luxury of being able to own their own devices.
Even in the poorest countries, almost anyone who uses the internet has a smartphone by now.

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There are also some instances in which it may make sense to use a public computer to improve privacy.
I can't think of a single way to improve privacy by entering my account data on a public computer. That's what Tor is for, on your own computer.

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If you are using a shared or public device, and use your captcha bypass link, your bypass code is just sitting there, and the computer doesn't even need to have any prior monitoring or logging software for the information to leak.
I can't imagine anyone writing down the captcha bypass code to enter it on a public computer, but if you do, at least use private browsing so the browser doesn't store the link.

TL;DR: OP, just use the captcha bypass URL, that's what it's for Smiley

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Today at 05:22:40 PM
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I added the VPN based on my experience, so I couldn't have made a mistake on that. Don't forget that we have different VPNs, and you don't expect them to always behave the same.
No, VPN is not the reason OP browser will be login him out of this forum, that is not possible and I am 100% certain about this.
Initially, I wasn't even referring to the VPN as the cause of the log out in my initial reply, but part of the reasons that the captcha-solving issue could take longer. But now that you've added that you are 100% certain about VPN cannot log an active session out, you couldn't have been more wrong.

First, you don't personalise the experience and use it to conclude for everyone, as you do not know the kind of VPN the person is using, and neither do you know their browser, the extensions there (including the private/VPN extensions) and the general settings of the browser. Only the OP can answer all that. I've read complaints from forum users about the misbehaviour of their accounts in such a manner. Is yours behaving like that? That means you can't speak for everyone, even if it doesn't happen to you. Some issues could be technically personal.

Now, aside from the possible settings I listed above, VPN may cause a session mismatch with active cookies. This means that it will not delete the cookies from the browser or intend to do so, but it could cause a misread, and thereby log the person out. Because this doesn't happen all the time doesn't mean it can't happen, or become frequent in some cases.

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Today at 05:56:19 PM
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First, you don't personalise the experience and use it to conclude for everyone, as you do not know the kind of VPN the person is using, and neither do you know their browser, the extensions there (including the private/VPN extensions) and the general settings of the browser.
This is not about my own experience, VPN can not log you out of this forum. This forum is not built like that. What will always log you out is Tor and which is normal as the browser is built that way, or incognito mode that I posted about also. It is more about browser and not VPN.

Only the OP can answer all that. I've read complaints from forum users about the misbehaviour of their accounts in such a manner. Is yours behaving like that? That means you can't speak for everyone, even if it doesn't happen to you. Some issues could be technically personal.
Bitcointalk account of the people? Just to be specific.

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