Can war make a country legalize gambling

[DrBeer]

The problem with the Kremlin regime is that in order to remain in power, it must continue the war. The reason is simple: none of the goals announced by the criminal Kremlin regime have been achieved. Moreover, in some areas, the result has been diametrically opposite! In addition, Russia's economy is falling apart, the people are becoming poorer, there is a dire demographic problem, and a huge population decline. In short, it is a complete failure, which means that stopping the war now and presenting it as a “victory,” even to complete idiots, will not work and will create enormous tension and mistrust.
 Conclusion: the Kremlin regime will seek any means to finance its terrorist war, such as raising taxes, imposing additional indirect levies, and seizing deposits. Deposits will not be seized directly, but most likely through the mechanism of compulsory purchase of government bonds/securities, which “we will buy back from you sometime in the future.”
 Legalizing gambling could also be a solution, as in difficult situations, a desperate population often “escapes” into games, lotteries, and other activities that distract them from reality, believing in miracles and solutions to their problems. So this is a perfectly viable solution.

The problem is, there's no time. We need the money now, not sometime later. So, we need to hurry with the bonds.

Yesterday, news broke that the regional budget deficit for January alone was over 1.5 trillion rubles. Just think about that figure. The projected deficit for the entire year was just over 3.2 trillion. Only 30 days have passed. The situation is so dire that the catastrophe will be obvious in just a few weeks. That's it, the budget has collapsed, along with the entire national economy.

The simple conclusion is that, in this example, legalizing casinos and the gambling business will not yield any noticeable results, since additional fees and taxes can only be collected if “the law is signed in the morning and by lunchtime there are casinos on every corner across the country.” But there is a second problem: the solvent population or TOURISTS who will bring money to the casinos. As far as I can tell from the news, the population has become significantly poorer and is concerned with saving money on food, so in this situation, they will clearly not be interested in casino games. Will RICH tourists come to Russia? Well, that's the stuff of fantasy...

[fruktik]

The simple conclusion is that, in this example, legalizing casinos and the gambling business will not yield any noticeable results, since additional fees and taxes can only be collected if “the law is signed in the morning and by lunchtime there are casinos on every corner across the country.” But there is a second problem: the solvent population or TOURISTS who will bring money to the casinos. As far as I can tell from the news, the population has become significantly poorer and is concerned with saving money on food, so in this situation, they will clearly not be interested in casino games. Will RICH tourists come to Russia? Well, that's the stuff of fantasy...

So what's the reality? Less than a few weeks have passed since this idea was first voiced, and now a decision has been made in one Russian region.

""The Last Straw of Public Patience": Altai Authorities Approved the Creation of a Gambling Zone Despite Thousands of Resident Signatures

The United Russia-controlled Altai Republic Parliament approved the creation of a gambling zone in the region. Governor Andrei Turchak supported the casino near the Manzherok resort, controlled by Sberbank. Meanwhile, local activists, community leaders, and politicians collected thousands of signatures against it.

Deputies approved the federal bill on a gambling zone in Altai. The State Duma will soon adopt it.

The decision coincided with a multi-billion-dollar government contract in the Altai Mountains, which was won by a company associated with Arkady Rotenberg, SibExpress has learned."





As I've written before, the budget deficit is so severe that such decisions will be made with lightning speed. This is just the beginning. Now other regions will follow suit. Will this save the economy? No, it won't. The volume is nowhere near what's needed.

[Fredomago]

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

But I think it is not only about money. A government knows very well that gambling is something that attracts people easily and many people gradually become dependent on it, So if any decision is ever to come to the point of legalizing it then it is not only about bringing in more revenue, but is also equally important that safety of people is ensured, allowing something like this without strict rules, monitoring and control can also increase social problems in the long run.

It will work only if the government that will implement that rules is not a corrupt one, but with corrupt governemnt they will take advantage of the situation and make sure that they'll be copensated with huge amount of profits. Knowing how most government works and how those officials will see the profits and not the welfare of their community.

I guess it's far important to place that strict rules as like what you said the bad effects of giving so much freedom will backfire to the entire economy of such place where addiction arise high.

[Rabata]

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

But I think it is not only about money. A government knows very well that gambling is something that attracts people easily and many people gradually become dependent on it, So if any decision is ever to come to the point of legalizing it then it is not only about bringing in more revenue, but is also equally important that safety of people is ensured, allowing something like this without strict rules, monitoring and control can also increase social problems in the long run.

It will work only if the government that will implement that rules is not a corrupt one, but with corrupt governemnt they will take advantage of the situation and make sure that they'll be copensated with huge amount of profits. Knowing how most government works and how those officials will see the profits and not the welfare of their community.

I guess it's far important to place that strict rules as like what you said the bad effects of giving so much freedom will backfire to the entire economy of such place where addiction arise high.

Until casinos are legalized, people still try to gamble, but a large portion will refrain from it, but once it is legalized, most of the gamblers may be interested in it. If there are no proper rules and regulations at that time, it will never be under the control of the government. And if the government itself is corrupt, it will have a more negative impact. The common people will be addicted, and its impact will have a negative impact on the national economy of the country. The government should not only work to make money but also to ensure the economic security of the common people. A rational decision should be taken considering both aspects.

[davis196]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

I'm surprised that the online gambling industry in Russia hasn't been legalized and taxed years ago. Putin would definitely try to do everything in his power to raise tax revenue and gather more money to fund the ongoing war in Ukraine. Maybe the next step should be legalizing prostitution. This would bring even more money to the Russian budget and the Russian industrial military complex would get more orders for missiles and battle drones. Using gambling money to fund a war is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen in my life, but it looks surprisingly effective from a more rational point of view.

[Die_empty]

As I've written before, the budget deficit is so severe that such decisions will be made with lightning speed. This is just the beginning. Now other regions will follow suit. Will this save the economy? No, it won't. The volume is nowhere near what's needed.

So fast!

In times of war, every country will have to device mesns to get more revenue since there will be a high budget deficit.  Russia's case is critical because it is under severe sanctions and still at war. As a superpower, they still have an interest in other countries which increases their expenditure. Some of these autonomous states like the Altai Republic that depended on Russia for financial support will have to find means to cushion the effect of reduced financial aid.

Those activists and politicians who are protesting should understand that the Republic needs money to keep the government running. 

[Uhwuchukwu53]

War is what makes many nations seek different alternative to survive including it's citizens, and prompt many individual to carry out search and discovered many way to strive or survive life, if a nation in war adopt gambling and legalize it for the citizens, through proper regulations which will give more assurance to the people, despite been a thing of luck, it will still leverage some people  whose luck will shine, if Russia take the toe of using gambling as per their war I wouldn't blame than it's seeking means to survive the heat targeted against them because of the restrictions and some sanctions in which if alternative is not considered may crumble their economy more beyond measure.

[AmaGold70]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

In an effort to bolster state revenues amid a growing budget deficit, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has proposed the legalization of online casinos. The plan, presented to President Vladimir Putin, aims to provide a new source of income to offset the rising costs of the war against Ukraine. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

Russia Considers Legalizing Online Casinos Amid Financial Strain

I think it is totally in the authority of the Russian president Putin to decide if he should legalize online gambling or not , but if I am to advice, I would suggest he should legalize the online gambling as it can be another way of supporting Russian economy.
When their is war, their is always lost of lives and properties and possibly the economy of the country fighting war will also be affected, and that is exactly the situation of things in Russia, economic activities are not in other and many must have lost even their businesses as a result of war, so it won't be a bad idea if restoring online gambling will help to revive Russian economy.

[Die_empty]

I think it is totally in the authority of the Russian president Putin to decide if he should legalize online gambling or not , but if I am to advice, I would suggest he should legalize the online gambling as it can be another way of supporting Russian economy.
When their is war, their is always lost of lives and properties and possibly the economy of the country fighting war will also be affected, and that is exactly the situation of things in Russia, economic activities are not in other and many must have lost even their businesses as a result of war, so it won't be a bad idea if restoring online gambling will help to revive Russian economy.

It is the Altai Republic Parliament that approved it. In the original post Russian parliament is proposing to legalize gambling. But it was opposed by some politicians like Nikolay Novichkov saying that it will affect vulnerable groups, specifically pensioners and low-income earners. The Russian Orthodox Church has also criticised legalizing gambling because it will increase addiction problems, affect family welfare, and negatively impact the nation’s demographics. But the Russian government is also seeing it as a move to curb illegal gambling. Illegal online casinos account for about 40% to 50% of the Russian gambling market. I don't know if Russian have finally legalised it.

It is not Putin who supported this move but the Governor of Altai Republic Andrei Turchak. They are not online gambling platforms but will be located near the Manzherok resort and managed by Sberbank.

https://news.worldcasinodirectory.com/russia-considers-legalizing-online-casinos-amid-financial-strain-121471

[Satofan44]

So fast!

In times of war, every country will have to device mesns to get more revenue since there will be a high budget deficit.  Russia's case is critical because it is under severe sanctions and still at war. As a superpower, they still have an interest in other countries which increases their expenditure. Some of these autonomous states like the Altai Republic that depended on Russia for financial support will have to find means to cushion the effect of reduced financial aid.

Those activists and politicians who are protesting should understand that the Republic needs money to keep the government running. 

People who believe western propaganda nonsense about Russia are funny. Russia can run a budget deficit for decades and nothing would happen to them. Were it not for the human cost of the war, they would continue to fight until Ukraine is razed to the ground. Any day now Putin will die of the deadly disease that he had in 2021 from holding a table too tightly. The western experts diagnosed it after all. This measure does not really have anything to do about the war, even though some experts may publicly comment it that way. After all, why would they not? It makes sense and you can sell it more this way because a lot of people have no clue that keeping this illegal does not do anything at all, as I explained in the reply to your next post. What will work exactly will depends, but for the most stupid the best way to sell it is "the prophet said so". 

It is the Altai Republic Parliament that approved it. In the original post Russian parliament is proposing to legalize gambling. But it was opposed by some politicians like Nikolay Novichkov saying that it will affect vulnerable groups, specifically pensioners and low-income earners. The Russian Orthodox Church has also criticised legalizing gambling because it will increase addiction problems, affect family welfare, and negatively impact the nation’s demographics. But the Russian government is also seeing it as a move to curb illegal gambling. Illegal online casinos account for about 40% to 50% of the Russian gambling market. I don't know if Russian have finally legalised it.

It is not Putin who supported this move but the Governor of Altai Republic Andrei Turchak. They are not online gambling platforms but will be located near the Manzherok resort and managed by Sberbank.

https://news.worldcasinodirectory.com/russia-considers-legalizing-online-casinos-amid-financial-strain-121471

Those that are concerned about those things are public figures that are not educated about these things. Keeping platforms illegal does not solve anything, and actually often the data shows that legalization leads to a reduction in the userbase which is the exact opposite of what those people expect. Weak minded people and people with less developed brains tend to subconsciously get off from doing things that are forbidden in one way or another, it gives those things more appeal. Of course there is some risk in legislation, but any sane approach towards any topic like this would assumes that adequate protections would be asked of the establishments.

[shasan]

I do not think it happen only for the war. but there might ave various reasons behinf the giving legalize of gambling and the most important factor is the profit. I think only those country will not allow who has religious restrictions.

[ovcijisir]

I fail to.understand how would online gambling bring money to Russian treasury? If the casino is registered for example in some tax haven or another country - all proceeds from taxes will go to that country, so nothing will stay inside of state.

But in case if they plan to make casinos stste owned and only allow gambling jn sfate owned casinos that is another story snd then it makes sense.

[LUCKMCFLY]

When their is war, their is always lost of lives and properties and possibly the economy of the country fighting war will also be affected, and that is exactly the situation of things in Russia, economic activities are not in other and many must have lost even their businesses as a result of war, so it won't be a bad idea if restoring online gambling will help to revive Russian economy.

If gambling activity can generate a more prosperous economy for Russia, then it's welcome; it's not something to be taken negatively War is something that shouldn't exist in the world; there shouldn't be any more deaths where there are two nations that are practically one Russians and Ukrainians should be brothers; they are brothers. If casinos and glamping help restore the economy, then it's something that should be welcomed.

[Odusko]

When their is war, their is always lost of lives and properties. Possibly the economy of the country fighting war will also be affected, and that is exactly the situation of things in Russia, economic activities are not in other and many must have lost even their businesses as a result of war, so it won't be a bad idea if restoring online gambling will help to revive Russian economy.

If gambling activity can generate a more prosperous economy for Russia, then it's welcome; it's not something to be taken negatively War is something that shouldn't exist in the world; there shouldn't be any more deaths where there are two nations that are practically one Russians and Ukrainians should be brothers; they are brothers. If casinos and glamping help restore the economy, then it's something that should be welcomed.

Russia is a country that has strong regulations for gambling and in fact, we can see that the government have being following up with compliance with those rules, right about now, there is no logical explanation for the government to legalize gambling now that they are at war, when there have not run out of resources to found the war, and even if no resources, gambling can not generate that much money to found their war.
Again, gambling can not be a way to reunit States that are in conflict even if the games are played on a friendly level.

[nimogsm]

I fail to.understand how would online gambling bring money to Russian treasury? If the casino is registered for example in some tax haven or another country - all proceeds from taxes will go to that country, so nothing will stay inside of state.

But in case if they plan to make casinos stste owned and only allow gambling jn sfate owned casinos that is another story snd then it makes sense.

If any money comes into the budget, it will be very small, since all large businesses are always in the hands of oligarchs. Given the constantly rising costs, it's not surprising that they will look for any way to fill the budget. After all, they could still stop the war they started, but that would be too easy it's not their method.

[danadc]

I fail to.understand how would online gambling bring money to Russian treasury? If the casino is registered for example in some tax haven or another country - all proceeds from taxes will go to that country, so nothing will stay inside of state.

But in case if they plan to make casinos stste owned and only allow gambling jn sfate owned casinos that is another story snd then it makes sense.

The business will always be controlled by someone who dominates or monopolizes it; in most cases, it's the government or mafias, who have more freedom to do things that are considered forbidden . They are the ones with the most access to it An ordinary person, or anyone wanting to get into this business, needs many contacts If it's illegal in a country, it's difficult, but possible Where there are wars, there are businesses; there are people making money It's possible that the casino is one of those businesses.

[Wakate]

I think it is totally in the authority of the Russian president Putin to decide if he should legalize online gambling or not , but if I am to advice, I would suggest he should legalize the online gambling as it can be another way of supporting Russian economy.
When their is war, their is always lost of lives and properties and possibly the economy of the country fighting war will also be affected, and that is exactly the situation of things in Russia, economic activities are not in other and many must have lost even their businesses as a result of war, so it won't be a bad idea if restoring online gambling will help to revive Russian economy.

The Russian economy has not fallen and we don't need to assume that gambling will revive the economy that has been booming for years after the war. The West expected the Russian economy to depreciate but it was the opposite that we are seeing and people need to admit to the truth. War can make a country to take a certain decision to help the citizens but I don't think it's going to be gambling.

[AmoreJaz]

I fail to.understand how would online gambling bring money to Russian treasury? If the casino is registered for example in some tax haven or another country - all proceeds from taxes will go to that country, so nothing will stay inside of state.

But in case if they plan to make casinos stste owned and only allow gambling jn sfate owned casinos that is another story snd then it makes sense.

The business will always be controlled by someone who dominates or monopolizes it; in most cases, it's the government or mafias, who have more freedom to do things that are considered forbidden . They are the ones with the most access to it An ordinary person, or anyone wanting to get into this business, needs many contacts If it's illegal in a country, it's difficult, but possible Where there are wars, there are businesses; there are people making money It's possible that the casino is one of those businesses.

Definitely, if gambling is legal in the country, they would surely benefit from it one way or another because of the revenue it can generate. And one thing to earn from it, is to make it operational and legal so the government can have easy access in getting the tax from this kind of business. So I believe, Russia knows that they have financial issues today because of the war and they need all the avenue that can generate income and gambling is one of them. So yes, they need to legalize gambling to benefit from it.