Fishing Ponds

[NurseHub]

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The question is

• Can this be considered gambling?
• If it is gambling, is it mostly about luck, or does skill actually matter?
Feel free to share your opinions, personal experiences, or any other perspectives.

If we understand the meaning of gambling, you will agree with me that this is gambling. There is a stake of money, aiming to receive a reward bigger than what you have staked, predicting to win the bigger fish even when not sure if the fish is even in the river or not. There's no guarantee of your winning,  it's basically luck. So it's gambling.

Does skill matter here? Yes, skill does 90% in this type of gambling, especially when the people setting the game are fair enough to put in the bigger fish in the pond. There are fishermen who can tell the sign of bigger fish in a pond and head to that side.

Just like snooker games, it's more for fun, and when money is placed, it's gambling, and your skill can pay in it, possibly because you are handling it yourself, and even with a little bit of a guarantee, you can trust yourself to make a win. On like sport, where it's other's energy and not yours to fully invest 100%

[CONVOAI]

I would call it gambling but it is a different type of gambling. Here, along with luck, skill is also needed. Because fishing is not an easy task. You have to know the technique of catching big fish. Since there is an entry fee and a prize for catching big fish, it can be called gambling. There are many such ponds in our country, where everyone cultivates fish but there is no entry fee. Everyone catches fish in their own pond.

[EluguHcman]

For $1 you'll win around $1k-$4k? Seems like a good deal.

Don't feel so excited with the news. If you have learnt or have experience in lottery, then you don't have to me so amuse like it is impossible to stake $1 to win $4K. What about the jackpot? I guess he stated it right in the OP about how some lucky fisher gamblers had won in couple of occasions and the community behind the event redeemed the prize.

However, considering the number of the fish in the pond and I think the chance of it is actually low, just like in gambling. Even though the odds is low, it's not zero and there's actually chance to win it, however there's no skill or anything required in it and I think it's just pure luck, even though your great at fishing, you really can't choose which fish would take your bait

Yes you would need luck in other for the giant fish to catch your trap but still, fishing is a skillful adventure and to catch the fish you must know the skills to set your bait and it takes the other skill to fish it out from the pond after caught on your bait.

[Obulis]

For sure it's gambling because it has all the attributes of gambling ranging from staking to an unpredictable outcome. You win or it just remains fun . However, it's a different kind of gambling that is not necessarily independent to you but depends on the outcome of other people for you to win, they catch smaller fish and you have the biggest you win, if not it's just fun.

[khiholangkang]

This discussion is very interesting. I was previously quite puzzled as to why so many people gathered at a fishing pond until late at night, even until the early hours of the morning. After investigating, it turns out they were actually making a betting deposit by buying the same fish and then throwing them into the pond, for example, 2 kg per person, so they could join in the fishing competition. However, to avoid legal restrictions on this form of fishing, the business owners let the anglers fish until they're finished, until they give up. There's no time limit. If there are still many fish that haven't been caught, the angler is still allowed to fish, except in specially designed competitions, for which there's a different purpose.

There's luck and skill involved here. Skill lies in how to make good bait, pull the hook, and also a high level of patience, as fishing requires a great deal of patience. For me, who gets irritated easily, this isn't suitable. I prefer to buy the fish directly and eat it.

[bettercrypto]

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In some countries, fishing ponds are really popular and can turn into a very profitable business. In my country, these kinds of fishing ponds are easy to find and are spread across many cities. You pay an entry fee, usually between $1 and $100, then you fish for fun and prizes. If you’re lucky enough to catch the biggest fish in the pond, you can even win a jackpot.
There have been cases where pond owners paid out jackpots of around $1000 to $4000 to lucky players.

The question is

• Can this be considered gambling?
• If it is gambling, is it mostly about luck, or does skill actually matter?

My reason for creating this thread is actually out of curiosity. In my country, all gambling activities are prohibited. However, fishing ponds are considered legal and not considered a form of gambling. It's clear that we have to pay a certain amount of money to win a prize that isn't guaranteed.

Feel free to share your opinions, personal experiences, or any other perspectives.

I think that’s basically gambling too because of the fees involved. Here in my country, there’s a campsite I visited where you just pay a fee to fish, and whatever you catch,
you can cook and eat for dinner. But what you’re saying is different where you can hit a 'jackpot' if you catch a big fish.

That’s definitely gambling. I think the organizers make their money from the entry fees, because if you only catch a small fish,
does that mean you lost and missed out on the jackpot?

[Powerjumboo]

https://depositphotos.com/vector/fisher-with-big-fish-10201605.html

In some countries, fishing ponds are really popular and can turn into a very profitable business. In my country, these kinds of fishing ponds are easy to find and are spread across many cities. You pay an entry fee, usually between $1 and $100, then you fish for fun and prizes. If you’re lucky enough to catch the biggest fish in the pond, you can even win a jackpot.
There have been cases where pond owners paid out jackpots of around $1000 to $4000 to lucky players.

The question is

• Can this be considered gambling?
• If it is gambling, is it mostly about luck, or does skill actually matter?

My reason for creating this thread is actually out of curiosity. In my country, all gambling activities are prohibited. However, fishing ponds are considered legal and not considered a form of gambling. It's clear that we have to pay a certain amount of money to win a prize that isn't guaranteed.

Feel free to share your opinions, personal experiences, or any other perspectives.

It is definitely a gambling game, since fishing tickets are collected here for a small amount of money, $1 or $100, and then the one who catches the biggest fish is given a prize of between $1000 and $4000, so there is no question of whether it is gambling or something else, it is definitely a gambling game. However, I will say that since you have to catch fish from underwater, it will depend entirely on luck, but if there is some good food to catch the fish, then the fish will be more attracted to that food by the lure of the hunter. However, this game is very fun, but in different countries it may or may not be considered gambling.

[Accardo]

It is definitely a gambling game, since fishing tickets are collected here for a small amount of money, $1 or $100, and then the one who catches the biggest fish is given a prize of between $1000 and $4000, so there is no question of whether it is gambling or something else, it is definitely a gambling game. However, I will say that since you have to catch fish from underwater, it will depend entirely on luck, but if there is some good food to catch the fish, then the fish will be more attracted to that food by the lure of the hunter. However, this game is very fun, but in different countries it may or may not be considered gambling.

On a relaxing role, the fish pond contest could be considered gambling, a type of structured games that appears to be the kind of gambling activities the government wishes for the nation, after restricting or banning casinos. Would I say it's a risk free way of clear exposure to a related but unrelated gambling game to increase relaxation.

[Perfectbaby]

This is based on experience and how much time you have been fishing before you could be that lucky catching up some fishes and again you need to know whether that place is full enough with fish before you could catch up fish quickly otherwise I wouldn't mind saying that you would be fishing in an empty ponds where there is no fish. When you talks about gambling we can say that gambling deals with luck and that plays a vital role in gambling even though you have all the experience needed to gamble you must also need luck to scale through the whole system otherwise you could be gambling without winning that is most people jumps from games to game, just to make sure they have luck from any of them.

[rachael9385]

Technically as long as the money was paid to start fishing in the hopes of getting something out of it then that's gambling but a different form of gambling because this is more of w competition or a challengez it doesn't involve staking a lot of money to make huge profit. All that's involved here is buying a ticket that's just a dollar and winning a certain amount of money if the challenge is won

[danherbias07]

There's money involved before you play, and they are after a certain prize. I believe that is still gambling.

I have not heard of this, but it sounds cool. I mean, it is unique and will probably be the first here in our country if ever been done. There are many people whose hobby is fishing, and I think this will be a great sport for them with a bit of competitive spirit because of the money involved. Although I honestly think this is a skill-based type of sport, and many would probably fail to catch even one if they do not really know how to fish. I don't know how to fish, but I do love watching other people fish, especially when they catch one.

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

If the aim of this is to stake money in the bid to earn more and compete with other fishermen, that everyone stand a chance of being rewarded with a price, then we can say its gambling, but we must not forget that gambling first initiates staking and the potential ability to win the bet or lose it.

There will be no need to compete with other fishermen, and yes, gambling requires staking. What actually will work is when a gambler stakes to the owner of the fishpond to catch the biggest fish from the pond. If he catches nothing, the money remains with the owner. If he catches bigger fish, he wins.

[Zoomic]

Yes, it can be considered as gambling. What you @op have described here is a form of fishing tournament where  those who are skilled in fishing pay fees to compete for a prize. This is not your regular kind of fishing, the organisers of this kind of competition set the rules for this competition and the participants must abide by the rules.

The competition has the features of gambling. Although, this is purely a skill based kind of gambling where luck plays a very minimal role as opposed to the kind of gambling most of us are used to. It can be considered a sport, a means of entertainment or a form of gambling. Whichever way you see it. The government of your country may be seeing it as entertainment.

[MRY]

If the aim of this is to stake money in the bid to earn more and compete with other fishermen, that everyone stand a chance of being rewarded with a price, then we can say its gambling, but we must not forget that gambling first initiates staking and the potential ability to win the bet or lose it.

There will be no need to compete with other fishermen, and yes, gambling requires staking. What actually will work is when a gambler stakes to the owner of the fishpond to catch the biggest fish from the pond. If he catches nothing, the money remains with the owner. If he catches bigger fish, he wins.

The response of the participants and the pool owner in turn is the very structure of the gambling world a house will always win no matter what the result is. We need to understand that it is a mere burden of having to be able to catch the largest fish which is present only to make us add money to a promise. I suppose this is a good lesson to make sure that we become easily tempted by the supposedly profitable offers when, in fact, we are on the way to loss.

[Agbamoni]

The same way many people see gambling as entertainment and fun is the same way they will see this as fun, which it is literally. On the other hand, there will always be the weird folks who will take this opportunity as gambling. Imagine using $1 to win $400 to $4000 if you get lucky to catch the biggest fish.

In conclusion, the main reason for the fish pond is not gambling. But most folks will do it the way they like. Whether gambling or not, it is basically for fun.

[Shinpako09]

It is gambling already. I believe the majority aim for the jackpot, and getting fish is just a bonus. A competition or any activity becomes different when money is involved. Just like in casino games or sports betting, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people treat it as another source of income, there is money involved after all. Anyway, how long before they announce a winner? What’s the timeframe? Is it every day, every week, or every month?

[TypoTonic]

In some countries, fishing ponds are really popular and can turn into a very profitable business. In my country, these kinds of fishing ponds are easy to find and are spread across many cities. You pay an entry fee, usually between $1 and $100, then you fish for fun and prizes. If you’re lucky enough to catch the biggest fish in the pond, you can even win a jackpot.
There have been cases where pond owners paid out jackpots of around $1000 to $4000 to lucky players.

This is the first time I've heard about this, seems pretty fun. I'm not really aware if we have anything like this in our country though.

This is how the ticket purchase works:

Buy in ticket $100 is distributed as follows 👇

Pond owner fee $10
Extra C (or side bet) $10
Jackpot fish $10
Remaining amount for the prize pool $70

With 200 participants:

1st place $5500 + $2000 side bet
2nd place $2500
3rd place $1500
4th place $1000
5th place $1000
6th - 10th place $500 each

If no one manages to catch a jackpot fish at each event, its value will continue to increase each week. For example, if no one catches a jackpot fish worth $2000 in the first week, the value will increase to $4000 in the second week, and so on.

If you put it this way, then obviously we can consider it as gambling. It's almost like a lottery where the money is pooled from the tickets, and the jackpot also increases every week. The difference is that it's not purely luck-based, there's some type of skill involved since you need to catch fish instead of just guessing the numbers that will be drawn.

[jcojci]

That considers as gambling. You pays ticket for an entry and competing with other fishers. You need to be lucky to win the jackpot so no guarantee you can win easily.

Skill is needed. You needs to know what the bait to win the jackpot fish. You competing with others using your skills getting the jackpot fish.

[iBaba]

For sure it's gambling because it has all the attributes of gambling ranging from staking to an unpredictable outcome. You win or it just remains fun . However, it's a different kind of gambling that is not necessarily independent to you but depends on the outcome of other people for you to win, they catch smaller fish and you have the biggest you win, if not it's just fun.

Gambling games are diverse and versatile. Any game can be played with gambling once it meets its criteria for gambling such as being able to stake some money and expect an outcome of winning or losing in rewards, that alone makes it gambling already regardless of how difficult it is to win or lose. Gambling is also fun and only people who use gambling to torture themselves are those who will not feel the fun in partaking in gambling else gambling is fun in nature and that’s why some gamblers use it to while away their time and also for entertainment sake.

[Anayochukwu]

Once we can use our money to stake and bet, then it may not really have to be fishing any longer, but any other thing as long as its a game we can play and got entertained playing, having fun and staking to win, it is gambling, even eating competition could turned gambling and the likes, we have to use our own money and play the bet, with the aim of wining against the opponent we are competing against, this is gambling.

Sometimes we often think that sports betting is the only to play gambling forgetting that there are many ways to gamble as long as money is involved in the game it is nothing but gambling. There are some places that you would go you wouldn't know if they are gambling or not but when they tell you their gambling life style you wouldn't believe because would be wondering while because there is no gambling shop in the area but they are going extra mile in gambling, so gamblers operate in different ways.