Bitcoin is going to ZERO

[NurseHub]

Interesting thing is that all this type of messages or post off this forum or in this forum comes only during bear market? why no bitcoin is going to die when bitcoin was at 120k ? bitcoin wasn't going to die then but now it is? well Jeffery Esptain and whatever that has to do with him is no concern with bitcoin, that's the current news today and the tool used by the government to distract the people from the real happenings so it's likely that it will be used to cover the space they bitcoin is making with it's decrease in price.

[DeeppRockk]

Interesting thing is that all this type of messages or post off this forum or in this forum comes only during bear market? why no bitcoin is going to die when bitcoin was at 120k ? bitcoin wasn't going to die then but now it is? well Jeffery Esptain and whatever that has to do with him is no concern with bitcoin, that's the current news today and the tool used by the government to distract the people from the real happenings so it's likely that it will be used to cover the space they bitcoin is making with it's decrease in price.

You're judging a system that's just following its programming.
It's not that 'they' are trying to distract you from Bitcoin. It's that financial media outlets are programmed to generate clicks, and politicians are programmed to find scapegoats.

Bitcoin is simply an easy target when it's volatile because it's poorly understood by the masses. This is a feature, not a bug, of our current information ecosystem.

When the price goes up, the narrative becomes 'institutional adoption' and 'inflation hedge' because that's what legacy finance wants to hear to justify getting in. When the price goes down, the narrative shifts to 'environmental disaster,' 'criminal usage,' or whatever scandal is in the middle, like this Epstein thing. It's just narrative-fitting.

You think the government is coordinating a media campaign to suppress Bitcoin? The government is barely competent enough to run its own affairs. This is just the emergent behavior of a system where every actor - journalists, politicians, traders-is simply optimizing for their own local interest: clicks, votes, and profit.
The 'conspiracy' is just the blatant reality of how these incentive systems actually work.

[Hazink]

Interesting thing is that all this type of messages or post off this forum or in this forum comes only during bear market? why no bitcoin is going to die when bitcoin was at 120k ? bitcoin wasn't going to die then but now it is? well Jeffery Esptain and whatever that has to do with him is no concern with bitcoin, that's the current news today and the tool used by the government to distract the people from the real happenings so it's likely that it will be used to cover the space they bitcoin is making with it's decrease in price.

Every market season brings in a specific tile of narration and speculation. When Bitcoin was busy breaking an all-time high, we have people who were also busy predicting that its price is going to reach $150k to $300k, which such are being done based on the speed the market is pushing up with we have been seeing most of these things, but the worst people think of is thinking about bitcoin dying when they are supposed to make such speculation is long gone, we are only going to witness market dump then push up but crash and eventually zero is not going to happen.

[NurseHub]

Interesting thing is that all this type of messages or post off this forum or in this forum comes only during bear market? why no bitcoin is going to die when bitcoin was at 120k ? bitcoin wasn't going to die then but now it is? well Jeffery Esptain and whatever that has to do with him is no concern with bitcoin, that's the current news today and the tool used by the government to distract the people from the real happenings so it's likely that it will be used to cover the space they bitcoin is making with it's decrease in price.

You're judging a system that's just following its programming.
It's not that 'they' are trying to distract you from Bitcoin. It's that financial media outlets are programmed to generate clicks, and politicians are programmed to find scapegoats.

Bitcoin is simply an easy target when it's volatile because it's poorly understood by the masses. This is a feature, not a bug, of our current information ecosystem.

When the price goes up, the narrative becomes 'institutional adoption' and 'inflation hedge' because that's what legacy finance wants to hear to justify getting in. When the price goes down, the narrative shifts to 'environmental disaster,' 'criminal usage,' or whatever scandal is in the middle, like this Epstein thing. It's just narrative-fitting.

You think the government is coordinating a media campaign to suppress Bitcoin? The government is barely competent enough to run its own affairs. This is just the emergent behavior of a system where every actor - journalists, politicians, traders-is simply optimizing for their own local interest: clicks, votes, and profit.
The 'conspiracy' is just the blatant reality of how these incentive systems actually work.

Did you actually seat or stand to write this? because what I'm seeing here is not convincing you wrote without the help of an external tool but well, you only made a point in the end that all this propagandas are usually a norm because people are looking for where to put the blame for the failing of bitcoin price or something to cover the disaster it might cost but however, the truth remains that bitcoin and all the conspiracy has nothing to do with it other. they are just made up stories to feed those who wants to listen.

[DeeppRockk]

Every market season brings in a specific tile of narration and speculation. When Bitcoin was busy breaking an all-time high, we have people who were also busy predicting that its price is going to reach $150k to $300k, which such are being done based on the speed the market is pushing up with we have been seeing most of these things, but the worst people think of is thinking about bitcoin dying when they are supposed to make such speculation is long gone, we are only going to witness market dump then push up but crash and eventually zero is not going to happen.

They're  running the same script from 2018 and 2022 again.

Every single time the price pulls back after a run, you get the same chorus yelling 'it's over' and 'it's going to zero', and they look like fools about two years later.

The people making those calls just don't get it - they see a price chart and think it's a stock.

It's a network. And the hash rate, the node count, the devs, none of that went to zero...
The fundamentals usually got stronger while the price was down 'cause the tourists left.
This dump from the 2025 high feels identical; it's just shaking out the leverage and the weak hands. The 'zero' talk is just emotional noise, not analysis.

[Chinesebaby]

Government will make sure Bitcoin collapses... one way or another.

From https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/claim-bitcoin-is-going-to-zero-folks-this-is-the-rumor-as-it-was-created-for-what-holy-schlit-benny-johnson-and-mike-benz-on-it/

"Did Jeffrey Epstein create Bitcoin?

Was it the CIA?

MIKE BENZ: “I am on record saying that both Bitcoin and Jeffrey Epstein, the main way to understand them is the money laundering role. And these emails come out with Larry Summers, who was the head of the U.S. Treasury." "

Despite whatever the government may try to do to manipulate the Bitcoin market and affects it's current price, one thing still remain certain which the government can not do about Bitcoin, which is to successfully collapse it into having little or no value. Because this is not the first time Bitcoin is falling almost close to half it's recent All Time High and still recover, and for the fact that it did in the past, it can still do it again.

[DeeppRockk]

Despite whatever the government may try to do to manipulate the Bitcoin market and affects it's current price, one thing still remain certain which the government can not do about Bitcoin, which is to successfully collapse it into having little or no value. Because this is not the first time Bitcoin is falling almost close to half it's recent All Time High and still recover, and for the fact that it did in the past, it can still do it again.

youre describing a scenario where a government tries to exert control over a system that was explicitly designed to be uncontrolled. thats the fundamental mismatch in this whole argument. They can certainly try to manipulate the *price* by banning regulated on-ramps like exchanges or ETFs, which they've done, but that isn't the same as collapsing the network itself.

The network's value proposition is its decentralized consensus, and no single government has jurisdiction over that. Think of it like torrenting: the U.S. government couldn't 'collapse' BitTorrent, they could only go after the big trackers and the people hosting files.

Bitcoin is identical. They can make it illegal, they can create FUD, they can even pressure mining pools within their borders, but the protocol doesn't have an off-switch they can access.

The certainty youre talking about is baked into the game (which can be said to be rigged from the start..) : as long as there's economic incentive for *someone* somewhere to mine, the chain continues. So while I agree they can't kill it, I think youre giving their attempts too much credit.

Most of the price action youre seeing is probably just ETF flow dynamics and macro risk-off sentiment, not some grand coordinated attack. The system, in my view, is way more boring and bureaucratic than that.

[leea-1334]

Money laundering omg,,, do people still not get just how shitty Bitcoin is to be used as a tool for money laundering? 

For sure there are all kinds of other tools withing BTC to make tracing it harder and harder,,, but when you can link everything and cannot erase or hide txs,,, BTC is a bad bad choice.

It could be that in the past it was like that, people laundered money with Bitcoin for their own interests, this could have happened, anyone could have done it, especially when we were introduced to mixers, even though they could still be traced, but the better the mixer was, the harder it was to trace, they created it to clean their money, it didn't matter if the prices went up or down, but the most important thing was that their money could be clean from the indications of the prohibitions that the perpetrators were carrying out, this is not strange, that's why the government is tightening the rules, not only to close down people's ways of laundering.


Bitcoin will not go to zero, and who is Epstein? he is just a Rothschilds chess piece, bitcoin is already very independent, decentralized independence will be very difficult for anyone to kill.

Only 1 mixer was good, the one that was so big on this forum  all other mixers can still be traced, the beauty and the horror of blockchain,,, you cannot hide or delete or vanish anything, unlike cash and banks where you can literally delete traces.

Anyway, we can add this thread to millions of ZERO threads already done

[betswift]

Only 1 mixer was good, the one that was so big on this forum  all other mixers can still be traced, the beauty and the horror of blockchain,,, you cannot hide or delete or vanish anything, unlike cash and banks where you can literally delete traces.

Anyway, we can add this thread to millions of ZERO threads already done

another one bites the zero 

[Son Of Blockchain (SOB)]

 Don't you notice that the more they keep trying the more Bitcoin thrives? Recently I learnt that China banned Cryptocurrency totally, but despite being a big economic country, it didn't make Bitcoin go back to zero, Bitcoin only drop 50% recently and would still bounce back with time.
 So I doubt that the government can crumble Bitcoin, they can only cause tension that reduce the price but Bitcoin would still be Bitcoin, eve with the wars, China ban on crypto, Bitcoin linked to Epstein, it still haven't crashed to zero, infact they could make it crash when the policies were more strict in Biden's administration, I don't think they can now or ever.

[PrivacyG]

Don't you notice that the more they keep trying the more Bitcoin thrives? Recently I learnt that China banned Cryptocurrency totally, but despite being a big economic country, it didn't make Bitcoin go back to zero, Bitcoin only drop 50% recently and would still bounce back with time.
 So I doubt that the government can crumble Bitcoin, they can only cause tension that reduce the price but Bitcoin would still be Bitcoin, eve with the wars, China ban on crypto, Bitcoin linked to Epstein, it still haven't crashed to zero, infact they could make it crash when the policies were more strict in Biden's administration, I don't think they can now or ever.

It is 'Bullish' when China accepts Bitcoin but it is never unusual to see them ban it.  I am not sure however if Bitcoin is THRIVING more the more they crack down on it.  In a way it does.  In other ways, people are getting used to a more 'controllable' Bitcoin economy.  For example.  Is Bitcoin thriving more the more they impose laws such as Know Your Customer?  Or is it a regress?

[icet208]

Gmgm,
Here we go again with the same narrative (just different FUD)
If we look at the 2014-2015 bear market, BTC dropped ~85% from peak and many said it was dead. Same in 2018, 2022
This time is not different.
What is different now compared to le't say 2013:
• Spot ETF approval in USA — institutional money is now flowing in
• Multiple countries making BTC legal tender or reserve asset
• Hash rate at all time highs
The "Bitcoin is dead" narrative is actually a great contrarian indicator. As seen in history, once the mainstream media is full of FUD and bad publicity, we are usually close to the bottom.

Regarding the Epstein speculation — without cryptographic proof (signing with Satoshi keys), it's just noise. Anyone can claim anything about Satoshi's identity. The code and the blockchain speak for themselves.

Should the history repeat itself, the next bull run could surprise many.

[NotATether]

Come on, don't you think that's a bit far-fetched, even with your profile of shitposting?

[Judith87403]

The opinion that government will make sure Bitcoin collapses  or that it is secretly built by Jeffrey Epstein or the CIA is only a conspiracy, not a fact. The origin of Bitcoin is properly documented:  an individual using the  name Satoshi Nakamoto published the white Bitcoinp paper in the year 2008 and have the network launched in the year 2009, and that very person or organization's real identity is still hidden. There isn't any credible evidence connecting Epstein or even the U.S. intelligence to the creation of Bitcoin. True Epstein invested into crypto companies years ago after the launching if Bitcoin, yet that do not imply he invented it. The rumors concerning the involvement of CIA are equally speculative and do not have any proof.

[BADecker]

Haven't you folks been watching the news, and particularly gold and silver? The whole financial system is on the verge of collapse. Collapse means the gradual splitting of the Internet, among other things.

Bitcoin along with the altcoins will collapse when this breakdown become strong and widespread enough. Besides, you won't even continue to be interested in Bitcoin as you start to scavenge for food.

[aylabadia05]

Government will make sure Bitcoin collapses... one way or another.

From https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/claim-bitcoin-is-going-to-zero-folks-this-is-the-rumor-as-it-was-created-for-what-holy-schlit-benny-johnson-and-mike-benz-on-it/

"Did Jeffrey Epstein create Bitcoin?

Was it the CIA?

MIKE BENZ: “I am on record saying that both Bitcoin and Jeffrey Epstein, the main way to understand them is the money laundering role. And these emails come out with Larry Summers, who was the head of the U.S. Treasury." "

Is it America? Is it China? Or which country to find out which government is in question.
Repeated attempts to spread the narrative of killing Bitcoin have failed, even by governments of supposedly the most influential countries in the world, like the United States and China.

Bitcoin doesn't belong to the government, but to its owners. You, I, and thousands of others besides those on this forum who own Bitcoin are owners without any control.
Governments can only create regulations to discourage people from using Bitcoin, but legally, they cannot regulate it further in certain contexts.

Epstein is currently in the news, and even a US official has explained millions of files related to Bitcoin, and we still don't believe that all the speculation about Bitcoin related to this issue is necessarily unsubstantiated, unlike previous issues and cases.

[Xxmodded]

Government will make sure Bitcoin collapses... one way or another.

From https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/claim-bitcoin-is-going-to-zero-folks-this-is-the-rumor-as-it-was-created-for-what-holy-schlit-benny-johnson-and-mike-benz-on-it/

"Did Jeffrey Epstein create Bitcoin?

Was it the CIA?

MIKE BENZ: “I am on record saying that both Bitcoin and Jeffrey Epstein, the main way to understand them is the money laundering role. And these emails come out with Larry Summers, who was the head of the U.S. Treasury." "

there is no solid credible evidence in what was released to show that epstein was involved din the actually creation of bitcoin it self. it is all speculation because there was email where people were asking him about how successful he thought it would be in future. did he have input in the way of his views yes he did he use it for transactions yes but he never held bitcoin from what we can see. its the media being controlled by the government to make sure people pull out when they see a dip so no one actually make money from in and becomes rich.

[MArsland]

Interesting thing is that all this type of messages or post off this forum or in this forum comes only during bear market? why no bitcoin is going to die when bitcoin was at 120k ? bitcoin wasn't going to die then but now it is? well Jeffery Esptain and whatever that has to do with him is no concern with bitcoin, that's the current news today and the tool used by the government to distract the people from the real happenings so it's likely that it will be used to cover the space they bitcoin is making with it's decrease in price.

Every market season brings in a specific tile of narration and speculation. When Bitcoin was busy breaking an all-time high, we have people who were also busy predicting that its price is going to reach $150k to $300k, which such are being done based on the speed the market is pushing up with we have been seeing most of these things, but the worst people think of is thinking about bitcoin dying when they are supposed to make such speculation is long gone, we are only going to witness market dump then push up but crash and eventually zero is not going to happen.

The momentum is always right when it's time for Bitcoin to take a break from the bull market it's been in. And while the Epstein hot news was a high impact finale, it again failed to bring down Bitcoin. As we often see now and in the past, attempts to destroy Bitcoin end with strong public confidence in Bitcoin that is able to recover the price faster than before.

[BADecker]

Government will make sure Bitcoin collapses... one way or another.

From https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/claim-bitcoin-is-going-to-zero-folks-this-is-the-rumor-as-it-was-created-for-what-holy-schlit-benny-johnson-and-mike-benz-on-it/

"Did Jeffrey Epstein create Bitcoin?

Was it the CIA?

MIKE BENZ: “I am on record saying that both Bitcoin and Jeffrey Epstein, the main way to understand them is the money laundering role. And these emails come out with Larry Summers, who was the head of the U.S. Treasury." "

there is no solid credible evidence in what was released to show that epstein was involved din the actually creation of bitcoin it self. it is all speculation because there was email where people were asking him about how successful he thought it would be in future. did he have input in the way of his views yes he did he use it for transactions yes but he never held bitcoin from what we can see. its the media being controlled by the government to make sure people pull out when they see a dip so no one actually make money from in and becomes rich.

People who provide solid, credible evidence get 'suicided'. You need to read between the lines. Does anybody know who Satoshi is, really?

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

The momentum is always right when it's time for Bitcoin to take a break from the bull market it's been in. And while the Epstein hot news was a high impact finale, it again failed to bring down Bitcoin. As we often see now and in the past, attempts to destroy Bitcoin end with strong public confidence in Bitcoin that is able to recover the price faster than before.

Looking at previous cycles the current downward momentum is a common reaction after Bitcoin reaches its all-time high. However, several events have fueled persistent speculation, leading people to attribute the decline to various factors. The US-Iran war, the pressured global economy, or even Epstein's connection to Bitcoin—all of these factors indirectly contributed to Bitcoin's sharp decline. However, by examining Bitcoin's cycles based on its history, we can be more discerning in interpreting declines, preventing any situation from triggering greater panic as those who don't fully understand Bitcoin's trajectory do.