Characters long rule, in signature campaign.

[SuperBitMan]

I see some campaign managers including in their signature campaign rules that, your posts must be least 200 or 150 characters long.
Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.
Those this really lead to shit posting in the forum.


Note this campaign managers usually add constructive at the end of the statement.
For example “Your post must be at least 200 characters long and constructive.”

[_act_]

Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.

There is no signature campaign that accepts posts under off topic board right now.

Or you mean that the people are posting what is not related to the thread but posting off topic? I do not noticed this but if you notice it and it is not a constructive post that can be on the thread, report the post to moderator so that it can be deleted. Most people that I know are posting off topic spam posts like this but which are actually also short are not in signature campaign.

[Zaguru12]

I see some campaign manager’s including in their signature campaign rules that, your posts must be least 200 or 150 characters long.
Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.
Those this really lead to shit posting in the forum.

I would be lying if i actually say that this wording length isn’t actually why some people in way of extending their sentences actually go off topic, but you want the real answer even if this rule is taking off there will be more people actually going off topic.

This is not me actually saying that sentence with lesser characters or words are spam or off topic but the probability when compared to that of lengthy sentences is actually high.

The rule is simply not applicable to all campaigns so I will still end it with participate in campaign which rules are actually something you’re comfortable with.

puff I still ended up extending my sentences too  

There is no signature campaign that accepts posts under off topic board right now.

OP meant users extending words until there whole sentences actually goes off topic in that particular thread

[Churchillvv]

Do you know how many words make up 200 to 300 characters? If you know you wouldn’t think that because you are asked to write up to at least 200 characters that would lead to shit posting. Because a three line words can be more than 200 to 300 characters.
This above when counted with some character counter online, it’s 256 characters. That’s just what managers ask you to do!
Only reason why making a constructive post is seeming alike some special thing is that shit posters most times do not just have one account, they have multiple accounts and that leads to being unable to make good post or worry about how many characters when making post.

[Joy- maker]

Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.

There is no signature campaign that accepts posts under off topic board right now.

You are misunderstanding the OP. OP is asking a question, wether is it because of the 150 to 200 characters long campaign managers usually include in their signature campaign rules, the reason why some users go off topic just to meat up the 150 to 200 characters required by the campaign managers.

Op it seems you don't understand what 150 to 200 characters long is all about. Because if you do, you should be able to know, that this my comment alone is already up to 150 to 200 character long if am not mistaken.

[Hazink]

Are those rules actually enforced? Those are just rules I believe, are to make the participants put effort into their writing instead of just filling up the comment area with "you are correct, nice idea, etc." make members to through more light or detail on what they are saying, and as long as the post is constructive, a few managers which I have worked with in the past including my current manager don't take the 150/200 character length to heart.

One can still write below 50 characters and go off topic. If you lack an idea of what a topic is all about, going off-topic is inevitable, it is not always about the wall of text.

[_act_]

You are misunderstanding the OP. OP is asking a question, wether is it because of the 150 to 200 characters long campaign managers usually include in their signature campaign rules, the reason why some users go off topic just to meat up the 150 to 200 characters required by the campaign managers.

Did you read where Zaguru12 quoted me? This would have helped you not to repeat what he has already posted. Meta board was not like this before.

Another thing is that did you read the second part of my post? I still answered his question but that is based on how I see things on this forum. Like I said before, I did not noticed this on this forum. Can you and OP points to some posts that are off topic like the example that OP is making?

Two lines are just more than 150 characters already.

[dimonstration]

150 to 200 characters is just a medium size paragraph which is enough to provide a decent post without prolonging their thought with nonsense characters.

Some campaign manager introduced that rule since some user before post a one line filler just to meet the post quota without any substance.

I think some user believe that campaign manager preferred wall of post that’s why they are exaggerating their post length that already exceeded a lot to the minimum post character.

*my post above is already 386 character.

[NeuroticFish]

I see some campaign managers including in their signature campaign rules that, your posts must be least 200 or 150 characters long.
Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.
Those this really lead to shit posting in the forum.

From my rather long experience in signature campaigns I can tell that it's most probably a mix of factors.
Imho the main factor is the quota. Having a weekly minimum quota to fill, people may try to answer anywhere, even if they don't have good knowledge on the topic or the main topic is already fully answered / depleted.
Of course the 150-200 limit can add to it, but imho a good manager will take into account even much shorter answer if it's good, on point, complete and not already written. From my experience though it's quite rare occurrence to suffice such short answer.

So for spam/low quality posts I'd blame more the mix of:
* minimum weekly quota
* hunger for reaching max weekly post count (if any)
* inexperienced people
than the character count rule.

However, one can easily pick something written by somebody else and go off topic. That's not necessarily spam, it can happen easily even in normal face to face discussions.
I find uglier/spammier the posts that on page 30 they still try to answer the initial post without checking / caring that it was already answered hundreds of times.

[noorman0]

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Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.

The character length requirement isn't actually intended to combat off-topic posts, but rather to combat spam (spam isn't always off-topic). It also helps enforce the forum's no-spam policy. Perhaps personal observation or evaluation of their reports could explain the varying minimum requirements.

Someone who genuinely wants to contribute shouldn't be hindered by the character length requirement; even just 3 characters can help others.

[eternalgloom]

The only real reason someone turn into a shit poster around here is multi accounting.
If you are running 10+ accounts and chasing signature campaign, shit posts are basically your only tool left.

Outside of that most people on this forum actually post pretty solidly across the different section.

[Btcdeybodi]

I don't think all campaign managers makes that rule of 150-200 characters and even those who makes such rules doesn't follow it all the time because i have seen most times when a participant of that campaign made a one line post and it was counted by the manager so i think that if your post is constructive enough, campaign managers will count it even if it's just some few words because a post can be about a question that requires straight answer so there is no need to write many words just because you want it to reach 150 characters and above.

As for those who goes off topics in their replies, it's not really due to pressure to meet up with the required characters but it could be that they are just clueless about the topic but want to act smart just so their post can be counted but if you see such off topics reply you can just hit the ''report to moderator'' button and report such post as off topic reply then the moderators will do their job.

[LoyceV]

Are those rules actually enforced?

It doesn't need to be enforced, they just won't be paid.

I prefer this though:

4. There is no minimum length to make a post constructive, but you can expect scrutiny. If you can post a constructive post in 12 words, you don't need to make it longer.

[Rikafip]

Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.

One of the first things I noticed when I joined here is that people generally tend to write longer posts than in other forums I've been active on. So, instead of making a clear point in a few sentences, they repeat the same idea in different words, and stretch simple thoughts into full paragraphs without adding real value, thinking that it will look better when managers check their posts, and wanting to make sure that they get paid for them.

Longer posts are sometimes needed ofc, but more often than not its just a fluff.

Are those rules actually enforced?

I don't know, but I do like to think that its enforced on a case by case basis.

[Nightwalker(NW)]

This are solely for those that usually spam and does not read post before commenting, and of course all these rules are set for those who are spamming to reduce because there are lot people who don't usually read before making making comments on the post they are commenting. 200 characters aren't that much or 150 characters are not that much provided that you know what you are doing you would be able to make up to that. This is also to limits bots because most people usually encodes bot to help them post, and from my understanding bot doesn't know when a Post is 200 characters or 150 characters.

[tbct_mt2]

Note this campaign managers usually add constructive at the end of the statement.
For example “Your post must be at least 200 characters long and constructive.”

This campaign rule on minimum characters of a post to be eligible is only to fight against shit post but a good post does not need to have too many characters, even less than 200 characters sometimes.

So campaign managers have ability to be flexible when making their post checking including post quality checking as well. Don't worry if your post is helpful, quality but does not have enough 200 characters, it will be counted as it is more meaningful than a shitpost with 400 or 600 characters.

[GeorgeJohn]

I see some campaign managers including in their signature campaign rules that, your posts must be least 200 or 150 characters long.

Are you expecting signature participants to post 50 characters and receive payments? They're assigned to promote a brand and they will work according the rules and regulations of the campaign....

Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.
Those this really lead to shit posting in the forum.

That's not what leads to Shit posting or off topic, controlling of multiple accounts reduces a post quality..it's not the rule given by a campaign managers..to make 200 or 150 characters post, that doesn't leads to off topic...

this campaign managers usually add constructive at the end of the statement.
For example “Your post must be at least 200 characters long and constructive.”

Why they include constructive post, is because they wants you not to make a garbage post, for the seek of making 200 or 150 characters, they needed your post to be meaningful...

[Sandra_hakeem]

So for spam/low quality posts I'd blame more the mix of:
* minimum weekly quota
* hunger for reaching max weekly post count (if any)
* inexperienced people
than the character count rule.

You're on point! I wouldn't bother listing them out, after all it all meets at the same point of interest-- the weekly overpriced piece of cake.

I find uglier/spammier the posts that on page 30 they still try to answer the initial post without checking / caring that it was already answered hundreds of times.

That was one of the first habits I noticed when I came here. I thought about what could possibly be the reason why, then resolved at-- maybe everyone's original thought is valid, whether or not it's been written by the lot already?!
Until I began to understand the trick that some campaigners use.

[Smartvirus]

Certainly there would always be means to an end and these are meant to be perpetuated by users but, it doesn’t matter what rule you put in place when a user wants to cut corners for own desires.
This rule simply sets you on a path that tries to distinguish what a manager might see as spam, guides you towards what’s more acceptable and also, the managers do state that, they are at liberty to not count or undermine a post at their own discretion which means, even a 1000 worded post could still be disallowed when not found worthy and on topic.

[EarnOnVictor]

I see some campaign managers including in their signature campaign rules that, your posts must be least 200 or 150 characters long.
Can this rule also be the reason why some people usually go off topic, so they can meet up to the required number of characters needed by campaign managers.

This can never be the reason.

First, if you consider what you would write with 150 characters, which is the commonest, and even the 200 characters, you would realise that it's so little. This is barely a full line of the forum with a little addition. This is surely not the reason.

It's not word count we are talking about, so it can't be overwhelming. I can only conclude that anyone writing rubbish is not serious. Even if it is 500 words, everyone signing up for a campaign should be able to achieve that. Otherwise, they should avoid the campaign altogether.