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June 23, 2026, 09:30:55 PM
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https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131126/

one snapshot from the distant past.... THIS is volatility
       
                  %1h        %24h       %7d
Bitcoin     1.88%       15.73%      59.68%
Litecoin   8.68%        67.69%    156.67%
XRP        0.63%        59.54%    313.49%
Namecoin -1.73%     92.86%    620.76%

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June 25, 2026, 12:01:47 PM
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The mathematically controlled Bitcoin supply prevents that Bitcoin will have an extremely low volatility. So fiat-like values are probably impossible.

But it should not be much higher than gold's volatility in "normal times" (not taking into account the 1980s or the 2025/26 bubble).


But who are you to say what "should" or "should not" be? No plebs like us could simply order the market to have lower volatility than Gold in "normal times", no? Proposing that in itself is laughable.

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That can be achieved by behavioral changes in the community: using DCA instead of hoard-and-sell, adopting it as a currency, not believing anymore in "get rich quick" but in "a stable asset which is likely to grow slowly to moderately".


 

OK, if you believe those behavioral changes in the community are possible. But the psychological nature of the market, ANY market including Bitcoin, has shown that what you propose is impossible. Those DCA buyers are also susceptible to Panic-Selling and FOMO.

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Given that there are now $trillions going through stablecoins everyday, saying they "solve no problem" doesn't exactly agree with the marketplace.
These "trillions" are mainly used to move coins from exchange to exchange, for DeFi stuff and other "financial" types of usage. See this study.

A note: The study differentiates "payments" (0.7%) and "transfers" (29.3%). "Transfers" at the first glance looks good but:

Quote from: Franklin Noll
transfers consist mainly of high-value movements into and out of DeFi protocols and for internal treasury applications (Ved 2026; Ingham 2026).

So a large part of the transfers can be added to the financial categories ("Exchanges", "Finance" and "Infrastructure") which together make up around 50%.  Thus we'd have about 65-70% of financial usage. The most relevant non-financial usage is "cross-border transfers among corporate branches across countries" (also part of "Transfers") which could make up around 10-15%, unfortunately the study isn't giving a clear number here. And then there is the "idle" category, which also groups together coins held in saving wallets, but also includes "lost" stablecoins.
 
some stablecoins have ZERO fees.
That can only apply to completely centralized stablecoins (on private blockchains or non-blockchain networks), as in all other cases you pay gas fees or other transaction fees. They're often small, but they add friction which you don't have at PayPal (from the consumer's perspective) nor with cash or credit cards etc..

You don't get to tout the benefits of Bitcoin and then add the L2, which negates the benefits you tout, and then talk about them together as if the combination magically solves a problem when it doesn't.
The L2's I'm talking about here are those that provide a so-called "unilateral exit". See the definition at https://www.bitcoinlayers.org/glossary#unilateral-exit.

This means that you actually do have the final word in custody, and so you can't be censored. Both Lightning and Ark provide this feature.

I'm not talking about Liquid, RSK and similar stuff. I do see some potential for a special type of sidechain where unilateral exit is not possible but instead the exit mechanism works based on incentives (Threshold tBTC, Nomic, the future plans for Stacks ...) but here indeed you have more counterparty risk.

And if you want to say, "but the L2 doesn't add any risk", then why have Bitcoin in the first place?
Because if you consider the problems Satoshi wanted to solve relevant, then you need a strong base asset on decentralized foundations. These decentralized foundation cannot be provided by 1) non-blockchain payment ledgers nor by 2) semi-centralized fast blockchains. And thus we need the "slow" L1.

And Bitcoiners love volatility because... that's the whole point.
Some do, some not.

people buying their coffee in the morning with Bitcoin...
Is a completely irrelevant category of payments.

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