Help needed for a forum member!

[DrBeer]

I will add my two cents to this discussion as evidence of how difficult it is to live in Kyiv. My friends and several of their families were unable to leave this city on time. While they were deciding whether to go to Europe or to Russia, one son was drafted into the army, and he died, to my deep regret. While the family was trying to get back to normal after such a tragic event, it became quite difficult to leave the city. The sums people had to pay to be released from the country reached mind-boggling amounts that ordinary people could not afford even in peacetime. They sold a lot to leave, but life there is not at all free, although at first, there were some benefits. In short, the amounts that we call normal for life, for Kyiv, now look like a trifle.
All the men are drafted into the army, without consent, and they are forced to hide or pay those who can send them to war.
The question for the OP is, why didn't your friend leave the country if she has children? I'm sorry about the situation, but again, the company's signature on two forums could have been multiplied into two or three accounts, naturally, without cheating. In this situation, this is a kind of way out and a privilege.
To those who have allocated their money, only respect, and yes, "give to him who asks you," and it will be given to you from above.
But unfortunately, even a small thing is sometimes very important to many.

Thanks for the informational support!
I'll just add—I paid the utility bills for a three-bedroom apartment. The monthly cost is about $250....

P.S. The situation with conscription, as in any country, is very specific, but.... For example, in March 2022, I myself submitted an application to join the Armed Forces of Ukraine, my friend, whose son I am the godfather of, also submitted an application for service six months ago, signed a contract, and went to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Majestic-milf]

 I understand how difficult it is to live life in the time of war as the things you normally did will become a challenge and an exercise in mental stability during that period. Prices of things will shoot up and knowing there's a child involved in the picture only makes it quite hard because where an adult can skip some meals to save something, you can't do the same for the child.
 I understand that you so want to protect the identity of the user in question but you've seen that instead of positive responses, all you get is backlash and people making their own conclusions. Like I said earlier, war isn't something you want to happen, or the fact that a loved one has to get enlisted so if the individual wants the members here to bend an ear to her cause, nothing stops you or her to come out and clear the air. I see no big deal there except you're admitting that the person you are soliciting for is the person they suspect.

[Vod]

If OP is not begging for Etranger, then he should be asking Etranger for help, not us.  He knows her personally and she has a lot of personal funds she did not spend on a mining farm.  If this did not happen then my feedback on OP is correct.

[JollyGood]

Personally, I find the whole situation bizarre. That is the creation of this thread as well as the non-vouch and non-endorsement yet allowing for it to be placed in the Meta board and then some of the posts that followed.

Other members have expressed their surprise that this thread was allowed in the Meta board, I have to add I am surprised too. After that, I wanted to point out that apart from the two incoming Bitcoin transactions since this thread was created, all of the other crypto addresses have zero balance.

The Bitcoin address is now showing zero balance after the funds (0.00707459 BTC and 0.00163388 BTC) were sent out from the wallet.

I guess members are not lining up to donate their money and many are questioning the motives behind it. I think the OP probably expected questions and accusations when creating the thread therefore for what appear to be two donations received, was it worth DrBeer bringing all this attention on himself and Etranger?

[Junii]

Hello, everyone!
I have an unusual request.
A person, whom you probably know from this forum, is in a difficult situation.
Her husband left to serve in the army, to defend the country from the enemy who unleashed a terrorist war against our country. She has a very young child, and therefore all the financial burden and responsibility.


I hope for your understanding and kindness!

P.S. I promise to notify everyone when the situation changes and the collection is no longer necessary!

The publication of this topic has been agreed upon with the forum administrators.

Hello sir. I hope u doing well . Your intention is good and helping someone in need is always respected. But in crypto space people have seen many fake stories so trust becomes very important. That is why some people are reacting negatively. If possible try to add a little proof or updates. Even small transparency can change everything and build trust. People are not heartless they are just careful. With the right approach people will support not just once but continuously.

I hope she gets the support she truly deserves. Stay strong.

[coupable]

I also find the situation strange since it was allowed to be posted in Meta, even the admin confirmed that he is not validating the details of the OP story.

I am not against giving out donation for those who deserve it, but I can't ignore my doubts about such a charity topic in a crypto forum where everybody are hiding their real personalities behing anonymous profiles.

So an unknown person behind a anonymous profile is asking for a charity on behalf of the wife of another unknown person who should be also having a anonymous profile but prefer not to show up at least to confirm the actual scene here.

- Who asked you Op to do this? The wife? Is she aware about her husband profile here? Why she didn't come here?

- Why you hide his profile name? This is a legit cause? Why he preferred to stay hidden even his family needs his justification to get help from donations? Was he doing anything wrong in bitcointalk community before going with the army? At least we want to know about his news and that he is fine.

- Donations can be made in bitcoin, why this topic is allowed in Meta not in the Services or in the Reputation board?

[lovesmayfamilis]

- Donations can be made in bitcoin, why this topic is allowed in Meta not in the Services or in the Reputation board?

All of your questions above have already been answered; you just need to read everything if it's important to you.

Why has this topic been raised in the Meta section, but the OP of the question asked to replenish this person's wallet regularly (many already know who she is), and the question arises, why has this topic not yet been pinned ? In the end, as soon as we all stop "lifting" it, it will be forgotten. And if it is "pinned," then there will definitely be a lot of questions like "Why?"

[coupable]

- Donations can be made in bitcoin, why this topic is allowed in Meta not in the Services or in the Reputation board?

All of your questions above have already been answered; you just need to read everything if it's important to you.

Not that important. Just out of curiosity. I read the thread and i can't figure out the details. Is it about user etranger or his wife? Why he doesn't just confirm this? Anyway, better to wait for more updates, if any.

Why has this topic been raised in the Meta section, but the OP of the question asked to replenish this person's wallet regularly (many already know who she is), and the question arises, why has this topic not yet been pinned ? In the end, as soon as we all stop "lifting" it, it will be forgotten. And if it is "pinned," then there will definitely be a lot of questions like "Why?"

You are right. Updating this thread is what brings it to the forum mainstream. This is why I asked why it's not in the right board like other charity campaigns. At least can be pumped frequently. Whatever, who cares?

[UmerIdrees]

Personally, I find the whole situation bizarre. That is the creation of this thread as well as the non-vouch and non-endorsement yet allowing for it to be placed in the Meta board and then some of the posts that followed.

Other members have expressed their surprise that this thread was allowed in the Meta board, I have to add I am surprised too. After that, I wanted to point out that apart from the two incoming Bitcoin transactions since this thread was created, all of the other crypto addresses have zero balance.

If this thread were started by any random newbie, by now it would already have been deleted, or people have claimed it to be a scam, but since it was started by a legendary member and he has done it with the will of the forum admins, something may be right here.

But still seeing a lack of donations from the members shows that people here are too fearful of donation scams, that even if there were any genuine donation requests, we are not convinced.

[Man of peace]

Hello sir. I hope u doing well . Your intention is good and helping someone in need is always respected. But in crypto space people have seen many fake stories so trust becomes very important. That is why some people are reacting negatively. If possible try to add a little proof or updates. Even small transparency can change everything and build trust. People are not heartless they are just careful. With the right approach people will support not just once but continuously.

I hope she gets the support she truly deserves. Stay strong.

Op you have spoken very well, actually it is very difficult to trust people nowadays especially someone you don't even know at all because of what is happening in the whole world,alot of people are willing to help but some many have helped people and it turns out against them,the good they did become bad, and alot have helped and it happens that it was a scammer, infact so many evil things are going on and that was why people are very careful nowadays and it looks like people are no longer willing to help No, alot are still willing to help but they really need an evidence of proof and this has been affecting both the helper and the needy because it becomes difficult to get help from people and it also becomes so difficult to help people who really need help and not a scammers..


But I strongly believe that if you can be able to bring a concrete evidence here that will proof your information a reality one with that people will do something..

[Jostern]

You know that begging or asking donations is not allowed here, aside from those charity deeds for a community or what.

This forum is unbelievable. Yes, I know you've edited it, but the ability to not read before writing here seems worthy of study to me.

If you don't like the initiative or don't want to donate, shut the fuck up and at least read the OP properly before writing.

I think most times people just read the headlines about what the OP is actually writing without actually getting the full details of everything that have previously been said, anyways I think it would be helpful and better if people starts reading what is being talked about before they make any sort of comment.

However this are the reasons why there are shit posters in this forum, because they don’t read things or whatever the topic is saying, they just want to keep saying things for no good reasons, talking about making a donation, I don’t think anyone is actually forcing anyone and I think it’s absolutely a free will donation, which is why people should learn how to say things.

[MarryWithBTC]

You know that begging or asking donations is not allowed here, aside from those charity deeds for a community or what.

This forum is unbelievable. Yes, I know you've edited it, but the ability to not read before writing here seems worthy of study to me.

If you don't like the initiative or don't want to donate, shut the fuck up and at least read the OP properly before writing.

I think most times people just read the headlines about what the OP is actually writing without actually getting the full details of everything that have previously been said, anyways I think it would be helpful and better if people starts reading what is being talked about before they make any sort of comment.

However this are the reasons why there are shit posters in this forum, because they don’t read things or whatever the topic is saying, they just want to keep saying things for no good reasons, talking about making a donation, I don’t think anyone is actually forcing anyone and I think it’s absolutely a free will donation, which is why people should learn how to say things.

This is why anytime i am late to a post i choose not to write at all. Most posts after the first few pages are just repetition of what was said. It is very difficult to see a fresh idea in the middle of an ongoing thread unless you read from legendary users and some hero members.
Some people believe so much that after reading Op, they are good to write a reply. In some cases, it turns out fine while in some other cases, it doesn't because at some point the bases of discussion might change.

But the worse of it is people who read only the title and rush down to reply. These set of people hardly write what is in line. Although I do not blame them because it was said above that this kind of thread is not supposed to belong to meta but the reputation board. So, this could be the major reason the thread is largely digressed.

[7juju]

But I strongly believe that if you can be able to bring a concrete evidence here that will proof your information a reality one with that people will do something..

It would have just been better if the no soliciting for donations rule was respected irrespective of any evidence. If we go by what you are saying, that OP should bring up concrete evidence for people to trust and donate, tomorrow others with evidence too will come up and start asking for donations too. And when their requests are not being granted they will feel bad and possibly think that the administrators are biased. Believe me there are many people that know people that needs help and they have evidences to back it up.

[Jubilee58]

Hello, everyone!
I have an unusual request.
A person, whom you probably know from this forum, is in a difficult situation.
Her husband left to serve in the army, to defend the country from the enemy who unleashed a terrorist war against our country. She has a very young child, and therefore all the financial burden and responsibility.
The essence of this appeal is a request to provide financial assistance to this person. It doesn't have to be millions, but if everyone who wants to help contributes once a month with an amount equivalent to 5-10-20-... USDT, it will be a huge help to this person!
I know this person and her husband personally, and I confirm and give my word that the situation is exactly as I have described.


Wallets for assistance (created specifically for this purpose):
USDT TRC20: TEYgzoS5GtVZT6nv7eqppwp95CjQCuMLm2
 
USDC Polygon: 0xe5182cB6980ba1b70f6cb8EF0a7Aea7495bD6698
USDC Solana: BYgbNPiddKAwpMBxzkG6Rc8bTkCbGD2G8RDXA7TAmHrP
 
BTC, bitcoin: bc1q7rjk6fa7a9ynl8nacxjkkwcxwesupwvqq7j24f
Ethereum: 0xe5182cB6980ba1b70f6cb8EF0a7Aea7495bD6698

Following the recommendation of respected forum members, I am adding the Monero wallet address:
48Vugf6w6u5VeK5y2tdgtpRK8sgDgZ5QEY6Mzb6cWBsmCZY1bocRmsqTyq2y954W2SjiWykcSxNtW7M P99TdYeomVf1BPAV
 

If you suggest other options, please write to me and I will create a wallet.

I hope for your understanding and kindness!

P.S. I promise to notify everyone when the situation changes and the collection is no longer necessary!

The publication of this topic has been agreed upon with the forum administrators.

Asking for help from this forum is not wrong. But  it should be someone known by this forum, and a Member too. Donating money to an unknown person that does not belong here is actually a difficult thing to do.
I equally know you must have also known this person very well, and you are trying to assist her which is a good thing you are doing. But it is more interesting if it is somebody who is part of us . Some people have been offering assistance here without being biased as they deem it necessary to support the welfare, and wellbeing of every individual here.

[Z_MBFM]

I have an unusual request.
A person, whom you probably know from this forum, is in a difficult situation.
Her husband left to serve in the army, to defend the country from the enemy who unleashed a terrorist war against our country. She has a very young child, and therefore all the financial burden and responsibility.
The essence of this appeal is a request to provide financial assistance to this person. It doesn't have to be millions, but if everyone who wants to help contributes once a month with an amount equivalent to 5-10-20-... USDT, it will be a huge help to this person!
I know this person and her husband personally, and I confirm and give my word that the situation is exactly as I have described.

Although the topic of donations has been brought up here, since the forum admin has allowed it and he himself has confirmed it here, I will not say anything more about this topic.

But one thing is why she needs help where her husband has joined the army that means the government of your country will take care of her family and her husband will get a salary from the government as well as various government allowances. If you want help for the families of the army in your country then you should help every army family not just for a specific family. What you are doing I think is embarrassing your country and the government management of the country. Where a soldier is not getting enough money from the government to run his family due to which donations are being asked for his family, how are the common people of your country surviving?

[acroman08]

Although the topic of donations has been brought up here, since the forum admin has allowed it and he himself has confirmed it here, I will not say anything more about this topic.

But one thing is why she needs help where her husband has joined the army that means the government of your country will take care of her family and her husband will get a salary from the government as well as various government allowances. If you want help for the families of the army in your country then you should help every army family not just for a specific family. What you are doing I think is embarrassing your country and the government management of the country. Where a soldier is not getting enough money from the government to run his family due to which donations are being asked for his family, how are the common people of your country surviving?

Whether it is embarrassing for the country is irrelevant(I am assuming that is what you meant, I hope you do), what's important here is that the guy is trying to help someone who is in need. Sure, the government might be giving allowances to the family fighting in the war, but he mentioned that the allowance was not enough, and the family he is helping has an infant..

If you want help for the families of the army in your country then you should help every army family not just for a specific family.

Sorry, but what I am getting from this is that you are implying that the OP shouldn't help the family he personally knows because he isn't helping every family in the army.

[Nathrixxx]

Inasmuch as I supportedfor charity, I still finds it more challenging that people will always be whom they were when it comes to financial affairs, we can't trust anyone, forget about evidence of payment receipts and so on, only that once we have decided to give as charity, we have already made up our minds and leave everything to nature by giving our best in helping out with the situation, then leave the rest to be judged by conscience, at least some will be willing to help, only that this may later become a trend as others may come with their own story as well.