[SCAM] KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino - Clone Network

[albon]

Important Update:

Following my report to MetaMask regarding this scam network and after reviewing the evidence , they added these sites to their block list.

if you try to open any of these domains now, you’ll see this warning:

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This website might be harmful. MetaMask flagged the site you're trying to visit as potentially deceptive. Attackers may trick you into doing something dangerous.

I also reported this matter to the authorities (GPDP and Coljuegos) regarding Sirplay Ltd. [https://sirplay.com/]

it’s clear now that they are the operators behind kasynoir.com. This is confirmed by their recent blocklist removal request filed under the username [sirplay-cto] -> [HERE] which basically links their corporate identity to this phishing domain, as well as their previous communications in this [post].

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I won’t be actively replying unless something important comes up.
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[albon]

it’s clear now that they are the operators behind kasynoir.com. This is confirmed by their recent blocklist removal request filed under the username [sirplay-cto] -> [HERE] which basically links their corporate identity to this phishing domain, as well as their previous communications in this [post].

After the MetaMask team closed their previous request (Issue #235610) following their blocklist removal request for the kasynoir domain and marked it as [not planned] five days ago, after reviewing the evidence I provided, they have now opened a new request in an attempt to bypass the block.



The entity behind this network --> sirplay-cto has created a new case [#237037], trying once again to mislead the team with weak claims about license legitimacy and by using misleading technical terms such as claiming the malicious code is just an SDK.

There are also many serious inaccuracies clearly intended to confuse the MetaMask team.

You can review all the details here: [HERE]

[khaled0111]

After the MetaMask team closed their previous request (Issue #235610) following their blocklist removal request for the kasynoir domain and marked it as [not planned] five days ago, after reviewing the evidence I provided, they have now opened a new request in an attempt to bypass the block.

Sorry albon, but as far as I can see, they are just trying to appeal their case again in order to get the ban lifted. I think you are pushing it a bit too far by saying they are trying to bypass the block (they are exercising their right by resubmitting their case for review). This is just my humble opinion for the time being.
I'll need to re-read the whole thread and check all the proof both parties have provided before making a fair judgment.

[albon]

Sorry albon, but as far as I can see, they are just trying to appeal their case again in order to get the ban lifted. I think you are pushing it a bit too far by saying they are trying to bypass the block (they are exercising their right by resubmitting their case for review). This is just my humble opinion for the time being.
I'll need to re-read the whole thread and check all the proof both parties have provided before making a fair judgment.

Pushing it? I don’t think so. . I’m the one who filed the complaint with real evidence that’s why MetaMask already blocked them.

the guys behind these domains tried to remove the block but MetaMask rejected it because these are obvious scam clone sites. .Now, just five days after their first request was denied they’ve submitted a new one using fake claims and arguments

MetaMask will likely spot this easily and reject the request again to protect users. I’m not pushing anything, but to clearly expose these deceptive practices,so the reports I filed can move forward.

[JollyGood]

Sorry albon, but as far as I can see, they are just trying to appeal their case again in order to get the ban lifted. I think you are pushing it a bit too far by saying they are trying to bypass the block (they are exercising their right by resubmitting their case for review). This is just my humble opinion for the time being.
I'll need to re-read the whole thread and check all the proof both parties have provided before making a fair judgment.

This seems to be a reasonable reaction by scammers and non-scammers alike. It is probably a standard reaction from people when they are confronted with events such as these, they want to push back.

For example, compare it to an account in the forum that has been banned. The owner creates another account to appeal the ban and persists on trying to have the ban removed as they want to monetise the banned account via signature campaigns and bounties. Eventually, they give up especially if fresh evidence is presented or if they do not receive support. It did not stop them trying.

When accounts are caught cheating a campaign manager or being part of an account farm, they initially push back in the hope of having negative tags removed too. Even if they have very little chance of success, it did not stop them trying. I think the conduct by Sirplay and KasyNoir in trying to have their names removed from any blacklist was expected and we should not be surprised. How this is seen by MetaMask is a matter for them.

MetaMask will likely spot this easily and reject the request again to protect users. I’m not pushing anything, but to clearly expose these deceptive practices,so the reports I filed can move forward.

MetaMask probably receive many reports about dubious and nefarious websites on a weekly basis. You did you part by reporting them, it will be interesting to see how they respond now that Sirplay have added their reply in favour of Kasynoir.

[albon]

This seems to be a reasonable reaction by scammers and non-scammers alike. It is probably a standard reaction from people when they are confronted with events such as these, they want to push back.

For example, compare it to an account in the forum that has been banned. The owner creates another account to appeal the ban and persists on trying to have the ban removed as they want to monetise the banned account via signature campaigns and bounties. Eventually, they give up especially if fresh evidence is presented or if they do not receive support. It did not stop them trying.

When accounts are caught cheating a campaign manager or being part of an account farm, they initially push back in the hope of having negative tags removed too. Even if they have very little chance of success, it did not stop them trying. I think the conduct by Sirplay and KasyNoir in trying to have their names removed from any blacklist was expected and we should not be surprised. How this is seen by MetaMask is a matter for them.

Thanks for clarifying.

I contacted the registrar, Cloudflare, Amazon AWS, and also reported them to regulators and ended up reporting it to Trustpilot and MetaMask as well.

I expect them to respond or appeal which is normal.

From my side, I I’ve done everything needed in terms of reporting..

Update: MetaMask has already rejected the removal request again -> [Closed as not planned] which matches what I was expecting.

It is also possible that they will create other accounts on GitHub with other names and submit similar requests for other domains later on so I will keep you updated if anything new comes up.

[albon]

I trust in the ability of the relevant authorities to do what’s needed to keep players’ and companies’ data safe.

Update on my complaint against Sirplay Ltd: [SOURCE]

I received a reply from Coljuegos about the report I filed against Sirplay Ltd with reference number #20260128692

They confirmed receiving my evidence regarding security issues I reported and a failure to properly protect user data.. They’re reviewing the issues to see if basic security standards were met.

ِAlso, the Director of Illegal Operations Monitoring requested that I provide additional information within 10 days according to Article 17 of Law 1755 of 2015.

I have already submitted the requested materials to help to protect users.


[Official document from Coljuegos confirming the ongoing investigation. Personal identifying information has been redacted for security and privacy.]

[yahoo62278]

@albon I noticed you have posted in this TOPIC and I wonder if the same thing is going on? This casino has 8 casinos under 1 license and has at least 1 scam accusation going on. Thoughts?

Money laundering aspect more than anything. The shared license thing we are starting to see looks weird to me since casinos can get a license for under around 12-20k. If these casinos have a 3 million dollar bankroll then what's 20k for your own license?

[keyscore44]

I trust in the ability of the relevant authorities to do what’s needed to keep players’ and companies’ data safe.

Update on my complaint against Sirplay Ltd: [SOURCE]

I received a reply from Coljuegos about the report I filed against Sirplay Ltd with reference number #20260128692

They confirmed receiving my evidence regarding security issues I reported and a failure to properly protect user data.. They’re reviewing the issues to see if basic security standards were met.

ِAlso, the Director of Illegal Operations Monitoring requested that I provide additional information within 10 days according to Article 17 of Law 1755 of 2015.

I have already submitted the requested materials to help to protect users.


[Official document from Coljuegos confirming the ongoing investigation. Personal identifying information has been redacted for security and privacy.]

From what I've read, this case involves Sirplay Ltd, a provider of white label packages (casinos and sportsbooks) for customers, and their possible (legal investigation in progress) failure to secure their data. I don't quite understand how this makes their customers scammers (Topic: "[SCAM] KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino - Clone Network)?
It seems their clients (KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino) are more like victims.

Money laundering aspect more than anything. The shared license thing we are starting to see looks weird to me since casinos can get a license for under around 12-20k. If these casinos have a 3 million dollar bankroll then what's 20k for your own license?

Shared bankroll is in the white label package that developer sells. The package also includes software, a license, and a few other things.


Source: https://sirplay.com/casino/live-casino/
There is more options. The offer is not small.

Why should they pay 10-20k for a license when they already have it in the package?

[albon]

@albon I noticed you have posted in this TOPIC and I wonder if the same thing is going on? This casino has 8 casinos under 1 license and has at least 1 scam accusation going on. Thoughts?

Money laundering aspect more than anything. The shared license thing we are starting to see looks weird to me since casinos can get a license for under around 12-20k. If these casinos have a 3 million dollar bankroll then what's 20k for your own license?

You’re right. It’s not 8 separate companies, just one network reusing the same backend and design.

They didn’t even replace (website) in their terms.. For them, spending $20,000 on each site to obtain an independent license would reduce their profit in system built to extract money from players and and tossed away.

After BetMode got a bad rep, they moved to new domains under the same license and kept operating while recycling funds internally.

Also, the Anjouan license doesn’t protect players much, they just want any form of certificate to give themselves some credibility and appear licensed.

From what I've read, this case involves Sirplay Ltd, a provider of white label packages (casinos and sportsbooks) for customers, and their possible (legal investigation in progress) failure to secure their data. I don't quite understand how this makes their customers scammers (Topic: "[SCAM] KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino - Clone Network)?
It seems their clients (KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino) are more like victims.

It is likely that the same entity is behind these cloned websites mentioned in the OP and in the previous posts in this discussion. The strong indicators of high-risk and fraudulent platforms suggest that those behind them may actually be the developer themselves [Sirplay] or internal parties connected to them who are responsible for launching and cycling these interfaces.

Shared bankroll is in the white label package that developer sells. The package also includes software, a license, and a few other things.

There is more options. The offer is not small.

Why should they pay 10-20k for a license when they already have it in the package?

That is indeed a Fair question, and the answer is that they would not pay extra fees as long as they are purchasing a ready-made white-label software package that already includes all the features needed to launch multiple sites. Of course, these are high-risk systems, and anyone who chooses to try them has only themselves to blame. I may look into LuckyCoin and the other platforms linked to its license later.

[keyscore44]

@albon I noticed you have posted in this TOPIC and I wonder if the same thing is going on? This casino has 8 casinos under 1 license and has at least 1 scam accusation going on. Thoughts?

Money laundering aspect more than anything. The shared license thing we are starting to see looks weird to me since casinos can get a license for under around 12-20k. If these casinos have a 3 million dollar bankroll then what's 20k for your own license?

You’re right. It’s not 8 separate companies, just one network reusing the same backend and design.

They didn’t even replace (website) in their terms.. For them, spending $20,000 on each site to obtain an independent license would reduce their profit in system built to extract money from players and and tossed away.

After BetMode got a bad rep, they moved to new domains under the same license and kept operating while recycling funds internally.

Also, the Anjouan license doesn’t protect players much, they just want any form of certificate to give themselves some credibility and appear licensed.

From what I've read, this case involves Sirplay Ltd, a provider of white label packages (casinos and sportsbooks) for customers, and their possible (legal investigation in progress) failure to secure their data. I don't quite understand how this makes their customers scammers (Topic: "[SCAM] KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino - Clone Network)?
It seems their clients (KasyNoir, Vegascamel, Niagarajackpot & Mybitcoin.casino) are more like victims.

It is likely that the same entity is behind these cloned websites mentioned in the OP and in the previous posts in this discussion. The strong indicators of high-risk and fraudulent platforms suggest that those behind them may actually be the developer themselves [Sirplay] or internal parties connected to them who are responsible for launching and cycling these interfaces.

Shared bankroll is in the white label package that developer sells. The package also includes software, a license, and a few other things.

There is more options. The offer is not small.

Why should they pay 10-20k for a license when they already have it in the package?

That is indeed a Fair question, and the answer is that they would not pay extra fees as long as they are purchasing a ready-made white-label software package that already includes all the features needed to launch multiple sites. Of course, these are high-risk systems, and anyone who chooses to try them has only themselves to blame. I may look into LuckyCoin and the other platforms linked to its license later.

Yes, please look in to LuckyCoin case, because following your line of thinking, any casino that was created thanks to a white label package purchase will automatically be red tagged by you as "high risk of exit scam"? That's how I understood what you wrote.
If not, what's the difference between Kasynoir and LuckyCoin? I mean, why is Kasynoir red tagged as "high risk exit scam" and LuckyCoin is not?

[albon]

Yes, please look in to LuckyCoin case, because following your line of thinking, any casino that was created thanks to a white label package purchase will automatically be red tagged by you as "high risk of exit scam"? That's how I understood what you wrote.
If not, what's the difference between Kasynoir and LuckyCoin? I mean, why is Kasynoir red tagged as "high risk exit scam" and LuckyCoin is not?

After checking [Kasynoir, Vegascamel, and NiagaraJackpot], I found they all share the Sirplay engine and HASHKEY_CRYPTO. This is a strong indication of a shared backend.

Also, a legit customer who purchases a White label package usually customizes his platform and updates the legal pages to build a real brand. All know that scam sites often do not care about such details as they may leave default text and copy old EU directives such as Directive 2001/97/EC used by Kasynoir, and messy translations include Italian words like (effettuate) or use generic legal clauses that appear to be nothing more than default package templates rather than properly prepared legal pages.

These sites have received many complaints and negative feedback.. So we should not judge LuckyCoin because it uses a White label. There must be warning signs and solid evidence before making any accusation.

[keyscore44]

You don't have to check anything. They all officially say they buy these packages.

Yes, please look in to LuckyCoin case, because following your line of thinking, any casino that was created thanks to a white label package purchase will automatically be red tagged by you as "high risk of exit scam"? That's how I understood what you wrote.
If not, what's the difference between Kasynoir and LuckyCoin? I mean, why is Kasynoir red tagged as "high risk exit scam" and LuckyCoin is not?

After checking [Kasynoir, Vegascamel, and NiagaraJackpot], I found they all share the Sirplay engine and HASHKEY_CRYPTO. This is a strong indication of a shared backend.

Also, a legit customer who purchases a White label package usually customizes his platform and updates the legal pages to build a real brand. All know that scam sites often do not care about such details as they may leave default text and copy old EU directives such as Directive 2001/97/EC used by Kasynoir, and messy translations include Italian words like (effettuate) or use generic legal clauses that appear to be nothing more than default package templates rather than properly prepared legal pages.

These sites have received many complaints and negative feedback.. So we should not judge LuckyCoin because it uses a White label. There must be warning signs and solid evidence before making any accusation.

I dont care!

To be honest you do want you want - it is example.

Any casino can be taken as scam - yes! ANY!

If you will try to make some casinos not nice - it makes you that you make some of casinos favor of others

not nice


The truth is, it's not about whether this method will work.

Anyone can use this method.

If someone wants to be a cheater, they'll make a few casinos - and they won't actually use the method you notice. So don't try to be clever.

Because at this point, the cheaters are already laughing at you.

It is easy create few casinos and albon will said is ok



@albon please tell me

how the fuck you can see if anyone who have money can scam people?

I can show you few examples

why you are so stupid?


If I have money I can buy few scripts of casinos, make it as I want, you will not know how high is my bankroll, because you will never ask - stupid idiot. You will ask for other stupids.

Tomorrow I will put another casino, and that nice, because I can - albon can not chack me, because he can check some bullshit white label people. because he feel good there. He feel good there because he can not do anythng correct with real White Label business.

Albon - you are idiot. Everyone have to admit it. Sorry dude, but you msaid few times very bad things. You also make very bad things for projects that heve been puting money for building something. You are idiot that need to be punished.

Im waiting for normal people who really understand that this guy dont want to say that he fucked up.

Let see who as a good person on this forum will be first


In short:

If I wanted to scam someone, I could buy a few white-label casinos, or do it without them.

Actually, I could open one and scam you too.

Stop being crazy, you idiot!

Ps. Give some evidence! Your guesses are ridiculous.


Of course, no one will agree with me because I'm drunk. But I'm sure that what I'm saying is supported by the majority.

[goldkingcoiner]

Impressive work, Albon! Thank you for keeping the community safe from scammers! We really appreciate you!

It does seem very suspicious that someone would make multiple casinos in such sloppy and rash design if they were not trying to scam and then abandon the clones... They would be more worried about upholding regulations so they do not get into trouble with regulators or lose user trust. Scammers are known not to be meticulous or detailled with their scams...

I wonder if there is a way to calculate and predict the amount of complexity a scammer is willing to put into his scams?

[keyscore44]

Impressive work, Albon! Thank you for keeping the community safe from scammers! We really appreciate you!

It does seem very suspicious that someone would make multiple casinos in such sloppy and rash design if they were not trying to scam and then abandon the clones... They would be more worried about upholding regulations so they do not get into trouble with regulators or lose user trust. Scammers are known not to be meticulous or detailled with their scams...

I wonder if there is a way to calculate and predict the amount of complexity a scammer is willing to put into his scams?

Don't be fooled.

White label services are available worldwide.

Only Albon is uneducated, and his lack of education is causing problems.

...

If there is anything that culd confirm this stupid ideas of albon.. I would like to go for it.. )) There is no option that anyone will trust this idiot!

Why?

Beacuse albon have feelin heheheh

Yes, please look in to LuckyCoin case, because following your line of thinking, any casino that was created thanks to a white label package purchase will automatically be red tagged by you as "high risk of exit scam"? That's how I understood what you wrote.
If not, what's the difference between Kasynoir and LuckyCoin? I mean, why is Kasynoir red tagged as "high risk exit scam" and LuckyCoin is not?

After checking [Kasynoir, Vegascamel, and NiagaraJackpot], I found they all share the Sirplay engine and HASHKEY_CRYPTO. This is a strong indication of a shared backend.

Also, a legit customer who purchases a White label package usually customizes his platform and updates the legal pages to build a real brand. All know that scam sites often do not care about such details as they may leave default text and copy old EU directives such as Directive 2001/97/EC used by Kasynoir, and messy translations include Italian words like (effettuate) or use generic legal clauses that appear to be nothing more than default package templates rather than properly prepared legal pages.

These sites have received many complaints and negative feedback.. So we should not judge LuckyCoin because it uses a White label. There must be warning signs and solid evidence before making any accusation.

albon!

do your job!

be a good person!

tag everyone red tag because you can not sa that you fucked up

Where are here DT members to confirm that this guy have problems with brain?

[albon]

Of course, no one will agree with me because I'm drunk. But I'm sure that what I'm saying is supported by the majority.

Any casino can be taken as scam - yes! ANY!

If you will try to make some casinos not nice - it makes you that you make some of casinos favor of others

Putting aside the insults and rude language, which add nothing to this topic, as well as your multi-posting [spamming] that violates the forum rules, you’re mainly arguing based on assumptions and you are going in circles.

As I mentioned before, feedback should be based on indicators and red flags, not on mere assumptions. You are clearly confusing possibilities with actual evidence.

This topic is based on the available evidence, and I have already explained my position according to the facts currently available. Anyone can read the thread and decide for themselves.

So, I do not have enough time to continue this pointless discussion with you. Nothing new is being added here, so I’ll leave it at that.

Impressive work, Albon! Thank you for keeping the community safe from scammers! We really appreciate you!

It does seem very suspicious that someone would make multiple casinos in such sloppy and rash design if they were not trying to scam and then abandon the clones... They would be more worried about upholding regulations so they do not get into trouble with regulators or lose user trust. Scammers are known not to be meticulous or detailled with their scams...

I wonder if there is a way to calculate and predict the amount of complexity a scammer is willing to put into his scams?

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I mainly look at the evidence currently available we can see instead of guessing intentions.

There are indeed scammers who are lazy, because they run too many sites at the same time while others may build more advanced operations that stay hidden many people already got scammed.

the important thing for me is the number of red flags together and the false claims and lies that can be proven..ect When all these signs show up that’s enough to warn the community.

[keyscore44]

As I mentioned before, feedback should be based on indicators and red flags, not on mere assumptions. You are clearly confusing possibilities with actual evidence.

Where are evidence? Besides your assumptions?