Does bitcoin reward investors based on amount purchased or based on patience?

[Kelward]

Both amount and patience rewards Bitcoin investors because the more amount that you use to accumulate the more multiplied profit you will get also the longer you hodl the more ROI that will add to the value of your Bitcoin in bull runs. What an investor that has many Bitcoin will gain in a short term during uptrends will be far more than what an investor with small Bitcoin will get and on the long term both will be profitable according to the amount of Bitcoin that they have.

If I must choose between amount of Bitcoin that an investor has and patience to hold for a long term I think that patience will have a slightly higher percentage because Bitcoin is more profitable as a long term investment. We talk about DCA strategy and it is centered on accumulating and holding for a very long term, if you buy and sell your Bitcoin on a short term then you are a trader, Bitcoin investment ideally is about patiently holding for a long term meaning for many years.

[avp2306]

You can simply wait it out and bitcoin will grow, patient works. Bitcoin's ATH growth has been exponential and that makes anyone who hold before ATH is reached profitable.

I haven't seen anyone losing with bitcoin if they hold it long enough, the people who loses big time are those daily traders otherwise how can you lose if the growth has been exponential.

Bitcoin's game is simple, you hold and your capital will grow overtime and it's not just empty words, all of these backed by data e.g historical chart and on-chain analysis of long term holders' net worth.

I agree that if we are patient and hold Bitcoin for the long term, we will almost certainly make a profit. However, thing have changed. Bitcoin's exponential growth rate has slowed as the market size has grown larger. It no longer grow x10 or x50 in each cycle, or x100 over the next 10 year as it did before. Therefore, the amount of Bitcoin we hold is also a crucial factor in determining future profit.

You can not expect to make million of dollars just by holding 0.1 BTC these days.

Patience is really important because the amount invested is nothing if the investor is short sighted. There's lots of risk to encounter if they try to deal with Bitcoin for short term, volatile movement is confusing or tricky that's why its not good to trade it since even if you put huge money and the market declines. There's huge chance to lose.

If they have that long time patience and knows what's better for their Bitcoin then they are consistent to accumulate without getting bother by short term dumps and pumps happening. There's high chance for them to get good reward, since Bitcoin potential still high and if it reach another ATH it surely rewards those people have long patience to hold this coin.

[TedMosby]

Define desired result. Desired results absolutely differ between individuals. Some people may need big profit, meanwhile other people are just okay with "enough" profit. And of course, the "enough" level is also different for each individual. Also, I think desired results are not only about money. It could be about the product. Desire to have sound money, desire to have privacy in financial activities, desire to have a currency that is not controlled by third parties, etc.

Also in your post, you compared 2 different things with different conditions. You should compare them under the same conditions. And I think patience is just patience, it doesn't make you exit smartly at the right time.

So let's compare them under the same conditions. IMO, economically, a system that involves trading will benefit bigger players who have larger capital and positions. A 10% capital gain from $1 million capital is bigger than a 1,000% capital gain from $1,000 capital. You can declare that the person who gets $10,000 is smarter, that his patience pays off, and whatsoever, but one thing for sure, the profit gap is so big, $90,000. Money is money at the end

[AmaGold70]

Bitcoin rewards come based on the combination of these two factors, when you have significant amount of bitcoin in your bitcoin portfolio, what guarantees your reward, and profit is patience, but having huge amount of bitcoin in your portfolio without patience will result to loss of asset. We see some investors saying they have made some losses in bitcoin, and some investors too are on total loss, the fact is that when some investors sell their bitcoin asset when they see the bitcoin market is experiencing downward trend, and once they see their asset has depreciated in price a bit, they quickly selloff their Bitcoin asset even at loss. The patient, and long term investors can keep their bitcoin investment even for 10 years, and above, by this time, making significant profit is a guarantee.

[Exitoral]

I read through the comment and a high percentage of people agree it's both. Which is true. But bitcoin doesn't only reward big investors. Including small investors too benefited from bitcoin boom.

If one has a lot of money and lacks patience, he or she will likely loss a chunk of that money. Why? For example an individual bought bitcoin at a price and all of a sudden it starts dropping in price. And enough panick is built in the atmosphere. That individual will likely sell at a loss because of fear of loosing all. Only for price now to go beyond what the individual bought before he sold. So much regret will build up within.

[Gentle_Soul]

I have decided to bring this very topic here, because I overheard two people arguing about bitcoin reward system, one was saying the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio determines your profit, and the other person was emphasizing on patience as a reward factor. So I would love us here to make our various contributions, and make a glaring classification based on this. However, in my own opinion, i feel patience is the main thing that can give bitcoin investors their desired result.

If you lack patience, even though you bought huge amount of bitcoin, impatience can make you sell before the right time, and even be at loss. There are many people who invested in bitcoin, and lost their money, this doesn't mean they did not buy huge, but they were unable to persevere the bitcoin market turbulence, and decline in the bitcoin price.

Bitcoin does not majorly reward short term investors, and those who made it big today in the bitcoin market was as a result of patience. There are those who even bought fractions of bitcoin, but long term holding has yielded a significant result and profit.

Talking about patience I think that's the more reason you need to use your discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin because you can comfortably persevere easily without any pressure or need of withdrawing your investment before time but however the bottom line is that patience pays off in the long run you get good profit even more than when you invest huge over a short period of time, the summary advice for me is to invest what you can hold for a long time and if you can invest big and hold for long too then it would definitely be more profitable so I can't say there is a particular pattern but then its just a simple analysis of how the system works.

[Renampun]

I think that patience and the amount purchased are also equally important, because if you buy 20 USD worth of bitcoin now and hold it for the next 4 years, maybe you can get 30 dollars, you actually profit, but if you invested consistently before, maybe you can get more than that. so both of them must be in line, otherwise you might not be able to get the maximum return from your investment.

[M47AK16]

Bitcoin rewards come based on the combination of these two factors, when you have significant amount of bitcoin in your bitcoin portfolio, what guarantees your reward, and profit is patience, but having huge amount of bitcoin in your portfolio without patience will result to loss of asset. We see some investors saying they have made some losses in bitcoin, and some investors too are on total loss, the fact is that when some investors sell their bitcoin asset when they see the bitcoin market is experiencing downward trend, and once they see their asset has depreciated in price a bit, they quickly selloff their Bitcoin asset even at loss. The patient, and long term investors can keep their bitcoin investment even for 10 years, and above, by this time, making significant profit is a guarantee.

Yeah, you need to collect it as much as you can without straining your own finances, and after you do that, you should also not sell it and keep holding it as long as possible. Doing these two things, constantly, for decade or more, will make you rich. You need to keep on buying anytime you save some money aside, and you need to make sure you are not selling it ever, and by ever I mean if you want to sell and retire that is fine, but do not invest into something else by getting out of bitcoin because bitcoin is the best investment out there. So you have to make sure that you are getting a good return out of it and keep holding it.

[Hazink]

I think that patience and the amount purchased are also equally important, because if you buy 20 USD worth of bitcoin now and hold it for the next 4 years, maybe you can get 30 dollars, you actually profit, but if you invested consistently before, maybe you can get more than that. so both of them must be in line, otherwise you might not be able to get the maximum return from your investment.

The amount invested = the volume you will be able to buy depending on the price at the time of purchase, and the volume you hold will also how the profit will be calculated. Long time, no holding rewards good profit, but it's not always guaranteed, so how much bitcoin appreciates during the time of holding will determine how large the profit will be not just for the people to hold and calculate base on long time or volume held.

[Fiasem20]

Both methods can be profitable.If you accumulate huge amount of bitcoin and when there’s a bull market,there’s this high chance of earning a decent profit due to the amount you invested.However,patience is a key factor that keeps an investor motivated for the long term,just as you’ve said without patience an investor wouldn’t be willing to hold till their investment has yielded some good returns.Many people think accumulating the whole bitcoin would make them rich in the next few days,bitcoin rewards doesn’t work that way no matter what you’re meant to hold till your profit grow otherwise you might want to sell at a loss.

[icebar]

Bitcoin does not majorly reward short term investors, and those who made it big today in the bitcoin market was as a result of patience. There are those who even bought fractions of bitcoin, but long term holding has yielded a significant result and profit.

If we review the real situation, what will stand out is that if you cannot hold Bitcoin, the chances of making a profit are very low. I have not seen anyone who has profited from Bitcoin investment without holding it. In the case of Bitcoin, only those who are long-term investors have profited the most. It will definitely be much more difficult to make a profit from Bitcoin in a short period of time from the time we usually invest in Bitcoin.

No one knows at what time Bitcoin will give the most profit. That is why the chances of making profit in the short term are very low. But all those who have been able to hold Bitcoin for a long time have been able to make a profit. It is true that if you deposit a large amount of Bitcoin, there is a chance of making profit, but even if you have a large amount of Bitcoin, if you cannot hold it for a long time, it is difficult to make profit with that Bitcoin. It will be difficult to make profit from it by purchasing a large amount of Bitcoin in a short period of time.

[Alpen]

Are you expecting the Bitcoin bubble to eventually burst out somewhere along the line?  The problem here is that when you compare a nationalized, centralized stock market such as the Nikkei with Bitcoin, it becomes a totally invalid comparison altogether.  But then again, those who try to play the timing game usually lose anyway in the long run.  It is the gutsy ones who end up on top after all is said and done.

My point wasn't about nationalization—it was about specialization. Japan was once the undisputed leader in innovation, but its tech was eventually adopted and scaled by others. When the next technological paradigm arrived, the Japanese market simply lost its edge and became irrelevant.

Blockchain and decentralization are crypto’s "specialization," but now we have Artificial Intelligence. This technology is literally siphoning investment away from the crypto market and competing for the very same electricity that powers BTC mining farms. Even the "gutsy" investors can't ignore such a massive shift in capital and resources.

[Peanutswar]

Basically it depends on your purpose with the bitcoin others doing this as a form way of transactional base so you can use bitcoin as a payment method, swap to other pair of coins and usually a peer to peer transaction, now you can also hodl bitcoin as you can because it has a value others using this as an investment so in the future is they see the potential of bitcoin giving profit, now you can also do both if you can, a long term investment and  you can do a short term investment for casual use you dont need to wait too long just to enjoy the gains of your earnings sometime we overthink too much things and becomes now complicated, just use the bitcoin as long as it helps you.

[Dunamisx]

Bitcoin reward comes in respect to time based on how the market rises with correspondence to the amount we have invested, while the longer it is the better for us as the market continue to make all time high while we are still holding, another for us to be successful with our holding, we have to be conscious of the time through which we allow our investment to mature until it becomes profitable before we can release them for sell and take profits to reinvest back, buying the dip.

[bitcoindusts]

Bitcoin reward comes in respect to time based on how the market rises with correspondence to the amount we have invested, while the longer it is the better for us as the market continue to make all time high while we are still holding, another for us to be successful with our holding, we have to be conscious of the time through which we allow our investment to mature until it becomes profitable before we can release them for sell and take profits to reinvest back, buying the dip.

So basically you are saying that bitcoin reward investors on both the amount they purchased and the patience they put in it which I, 100%, agree.    The reward of an investors is directly proportional to the amount they invested and at the same time on how much patience they give to get the best time to sell.

We cannot factor out any of the options they are both detrimental to how much an investors can earn.  Missing one will only lessen the possibility of a maximum profit thus this two must go hand in hand.

[Stalker22]

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Blockchain and decentralization are crypto’s "specialization," but now we have Artificial Intelligence. This technology is literally siphoning investment away from the crypto market and competing for the very same electricity that powers BTC mining farms. Even the "gutsy" investors can't ignore such a massive shift in capital and resources.

Still comparing apples to oranges.  I dont think AI can solve the inflation problem, nor will AI provide sovereignty over your capital - Bitcoin will.
Regarding AI "siphoning" investments, thats nothing more than a natural shift in focus. Almost every investment eventually ends up chasing the latest and greatest hype train.  It does not mean that the prior trend is over and done with - same as when they said the Internet would kill software companies or mobile technology would kill the PC.  That never happened.  They just end up integrating.
 

[IjawMan]

I think that patience and the amount purchased are also equally important, because if you buy 20 USD worth of bitcoin now and hold it for the next 4 years, maybe you can get 30 dollars, you actually profit, but if you invested consistently before, maybe you can get more than that. so both of them must be in line, otherwise you might not be able to get the maximum return from your investment.

Patience and investment size are closely connected and a must be for high profit with Bitcoin investment.

Bitcoin is not a get rich quick attainable means and you can never expect to put in big amount of money to take back high profit asap. That pattern is found with ponzi schemes.

Consistency with accumulation and patience to give your investment time is what does guarantees high end profit with Bitcoin investment. Save for trading which profit is immediate but it is with a high risk of loss to investment.

[Sonia_123]

Patient is the key word in bitcoin investment, without patience you will not be a successful bitcoin  holder, no matter how much you accumulate if you are not patience to hold on for a long term without selling part of your coins you will not get anything out of bitcoin investment because your situation will force you to temper your investment and remain a low or no coiner which will not be good.

[KiaKia]

Bitcoin will reward you on both.

1. You have to keep buying Bitcoin by using DCA strategy, it takes a lot of commitment and determination, you can keep doing this for many years to come before you finally have some good amount of bitcoin, although it depends heavily on how much you are using to DCA.

2. Every thing about Bitcoin ask for patience, you need it when you are slowly investing in Bitcoin, you also need it as an holder, this investment plan takes a lot of years to be fruitful. 

You will be reward based on how much you have accumulated so far, you will also be rewarded for holding on for years.

[Vlatlume]

Bitcoin will reward you on both.

1. You have to keep buying Bitcoin by using DCA strategy, it takes a lot of commitment and determination, you can keep doing this for many years to come before you finally have some good amount of bitcoin, although it depends heavily on how much you are using to DCA.

2. Every thing about Bitcoin ask for patience, you need it when you are slowly investing in Bitcoin, you also need it as an holder, this investment plan takes a lot of years to be fruitful. 

You will be reward based on how much you have accumulated so far, you will also be rewarded for holding on for years.

bitcoin rewards both accumulation and patience, even with DCA it still takes discipline to keep buying during good and bad markets. and holding is not easy too, many people panic during dips and sell early. the more you accumulate and the longer you stay patient, the better chance you have to see good results over time.