What if Iran had chosen the path of Humanity, National building and Prosperity?

[Smack That Ace]

P.S. By the way-how’s life serving in the IRGC, or wherever you’re serving the regime? Wasn’t the internet banned for ordinary citizens? Or are you in the resistance and getting internet through American Starlink? 

What about you? Was your phone, your tech devices, or even the household items you use every day made in the United States, EU or in China? A close ally of Russia and a country you have always considered thieves, cannot develop on its own, and will never become a global superpower?

Do not tell me you are using a phone made in China to speak badly about China

[MusaPk]

It's sad to see people who have never read history or even know where Iran is, talk about it just because they listened to some mouthpiece like Fox news and now they think they understand the world! Although I see many users have already corrected OP but let me give you some additional facts.

First time in my life I have seen US making a peace deal with a country it attacked. Before this war I saw Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela invasions and whats common in all these invasions is that US overthrows the ruler and got full control of the country. Now we have to admit that Iran is a powerful country at-least to extent that it can fully defend itself and it has proved in this recent war with US and Israel.

Without any Air force Iran successfully fought against two countries that claim to have best Air force in the world. We also saw how Iran outplayed US by sending Shahed drone that costs between $20,000 to $50,000 while the cost of one Patriot interceptor is around $4 million. These are few facts which we need to consider before declaring winner of this conflict.

Gulf countries are spending nothing on there defence, they are just paying US a money to defend them from external threats. Now gulf countries need to revisit this strategy that you have to defend your country yourself, no one else will do that job for you.

[Lida93]

It's sad to see people who have never read history or even know where Iran is, talk about it just because they listened to some mouthpiece like Fox news and now they think they understand the world! Although I see many users have already corrected OP but let me give you some additional facts.

First time in my life I have seen US making a peace deal with a country it attacked. Before this war I saw Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela invasions and whats common in all these invasions is that US overthrows the ruler and got full control of the country. Now we have to admit that Iran is a powerful country at-least to extent that it can fully defend itself and it has proved in this recent war with US and Israel.

I don't know much about other factors militarily that have kept Iran intact and unperturbed about the US and Israel aggressions on them but one thing I can point to which is visible to me is that unlike the other countries which the US has invaded and dominated at war, Iran has in control what they all lacks, which is the Strait of Hormuz. A strategic economic weapon for Iran strength and  defense, and they've intelligently gain a bigger effect on their enemies through their control of the Strait including with their military prowess and unity. Hence, Trump couldn't do any worse than seek to agree for ceasefire and peaceful talks.

[abhiseshakana]

It's sad to see people who have never read history or even know where Iran is, talk about it just because they listened to some mouthpiece like Fox news and now they think they understand the world! Although I see many users have already corrected OP but let me give you some additional facts.

First time in my life I have seen US making a peace deal with a country it attacked. Before this war I saw Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela invasions and whats common in all these invasions is that US overthrows the ruler and got full control of the country. Now we have to admit that Iran is a powerful country at-least to extent that it can fully defend itself and it has proved in this recent war with US and Israel.

Without any Air force Iran successfully fought against two countries that claim to have best Air force in the world. We also saw how Iran outplayed US by sending Shahed drone that costs between $20,000 to $50,000 while the cost of one Patriot interceptor is around $4 million. These are few facts which we need to consider before declaring winner of this conflict.

Gulf countries are spending nothing on there defence, they are just paying US a money to defend them from external threats. Now gulf countries need to revisit this strategy that you have to defend your country yourself, no one else will do that job for you.

Now, we can see that US and Israel with all their supremacy and their claim  as world  powerfull air force, are fail to achieve a quick win against Iran, they can not achieve their political goal through their attack. From Iran, we can learn that pressure, continuous pressure and extreem pressure always bring adaptation, innovation and revolution. Iran as affected parties by US sanction and embargo for decades has build strong alternative solution ranging from alternative trade route (legal & ilegal), alternative payment systems and partnering with China and Rusia for their survival. We see isolation policy can have different even opposite effect

[MusaPk]

I don't know much about other factors militarily that have kept Iran intact and unperturbed about the US and Israel aggressions on them but one thing I can point to which is visible to me is that unlike the other countries which the US has invaded and dominated at war, Iran has in control what they all lacks, which is the Strait of Hormuz. A strategic economic weapon for Iran strength and  defense, and they've intelligently gain a bigger effect on their enemies through their control of the Strait including with their military prowess and unity. Hence, Trump couldn't do any worse than seek to agree for ceasefire and peaceful talks.

Venezuela is one of world largest oil producer but still had no strong army to protect its President from getting Kidnapped. Iran has strategic edge that it is situated at Strait of Hormuz but we have to give credit to Iran armed forces that they have done necessary preparations in advance on how to tackle US and Israel attacks for opening of the Strait of Hormuz. For months there is standoff between US and Iran on opening of Strait of Hormuz and that was due to the fact that US was not able to open that corridor through use of its military power.

Now, we can see that US and Israel with all their supremacy and their claim  as world  powerfull air force, are fail to achieve a quick win against Iran, they can not achieve their political goal through their attack. From Iran, we can learn that pressure, continuous pressure and extreem pressure always bring adaptation, innovation and revolution. Iran as affected parties by US sanction and embargo for decades has build strong alternative solution ranging from alternative trade route (legal & ilegal), alternative payment systems and partnering with China and Rusia for their survival. We see isolation policy can have different even opposite effect

Iran lost many key figures during initial US and Israel air strikes but there command system remain intact. Once there supreme leader was martyred his successor was nominated and likewise other seats were also filled when required. Iran has proved to the world that through self reliance and unity you can beat every big power on the earth. 

[pooya87]

We also saw how Iran outplayed US by sending Shahed drone that costs between $20,000 to $50,000 while the cost of one Patriot interceptor is around $4 million. These are few facts which we need to consider before declaring winner of this conflict.

Maybe I shouldn't repeat-leak this on an English forum but hey, I know you guys are gonna love it.
Majority of the drones that were used to empty enemy air-defense missiles were ... <drumroll please> ... decoys
We call them "paper drones", think of it as a cardboard box with a battery and a propeller. They probably cost less than $10 LOL

The "decoy war" was actually pretty funny, specially in those times when Pentagon released videos of them having "destroyed" a high value target (like Iran's air-force) using their multi million dollar munitions; and it turned out what the morons in Washington had been boasting about was damage done to a drawing on asphalt ROFL 🤣

[Iranus]

I don't know much about other factors militarily that have kept Iran intact and unperturbed about the US and Israel aggressions on them but one thing I can point to which is visible to me is that unlike the other countries which the US has invaded and dominated at war, Iran has in control what they all lacks, which is the Strait of Hormuz. A strategic economic weapon for Iran strength and  defense, and they've intelligently gain a bigger effect on their enemies through their control of the Strait including with their military prowess and unity. Hence, Trump couldn't do any worse than seek to agree for ceasefire and peaceful talks.

Controlling the Strait of Hormuz is a major advantage for Iran. But if the leaders and people of Iran do not unite and share the same will to resist the invaders, I do not think they can withstand the overwhelming military power of the US.

Possessing advanced weapons and strategic cards is an advantage. However, to use them effectively and turn them into an advantage, national unity and the leadership capability of the leader play a decisive role.

If the Venezuelan people and government were united, the US would never be able to steal their oil, even if their president were kidnapped.

[Fiatless]

Controlling the Strait of Hormuz is a major advantage for Iran. But if the leaders and people of Iran do not unite and share the same will to resist the invaders, I do not think they can withstand the overwhelming military power of the US.

Possessing advanced weapons and strategic cards is an advantage. However, to use them effectively and turn them into an advantage, national unity and the leadership capability of the leader play a decisive role.

If the Venezuelan people and government were united, the US would never be able to steal their oil, even if their president were kidnapped.

There is suspicion that Maduro was betrayed by insiders in Venezuela’s ruling elite. So your speculation that there was disunity might not be far from the truth. The US tried as much as possible to cause division in Iran to enable regime change. But their efforts ended in futility. They went further to instigate a protest and arm some terrorists to infiltrate the civilian protesters. This move also failed. They ended up making Iran more united and stronger. In the face of death, civilians came out en masse to protect key national assets. Iran is now ruled by a combination of well-groomed young leaders and experienced ones.

[DrBeer]

P.S. By the way-how’s life serving in the IRGC, or wherever you’re serving the regime? Wasn’t the internet banned for ordinary citizens? Or are you in the resistance and getting internet through American Starlink? 

What about you? Was your phone, your tech devices, or even the household items you use every day made in the United States, EU or in China? A close ally of Russia and a country you have always considered thieves, cannot develop on its own, and will never become a global superpower?

Do not tell me you are using a phone made in China to speak badly about China

First of all-did I ever attribute something to my country that isn’t true, like pooya87 did? 

The phone is Korean; it was definitely not assembled in China, but is based on European, American, and Korean technologies. Did I answer your question?
Now answer my question: what led you to conclude that Russia has ALWAYS been our enemy?
Just don’t dodge the question-you said those words, so have the courage to explain them? Arguments and facts? Or just admit that you’re all talk and say things like that just because you feel like it?

And as for my reply to pooya87,along with my other clarifications, I assume you agree with them?

[Iranus]

There is suspicion that Maduro was betrayed by insiders in Venezuela’s ruling elite. So your speculation that there was disunity might not be far from the truth. The US tried as much as possible to cause division in Iran to enable regime change. But their efforts ended in futility. They went further to instigate a protest and arm some terrorists to infiltrate the civilian protesters. This move also failed. They ended up making Iran more united and stronger. In the face of death, civilians came out en masse to protect key national assets. Iran is now ruled by a combination of well-groomed young leaders and experienced ones.

That is no longer a suspicion or a hypothesis, but a fact. Maduro was betrayed, and the US was able to capture him with relative ease. And that success created the illusion within the Trump administration that they could do the same thing to Iran. But no, Iran is not Venezuela, and the US has paid a heavy price for its aggression.

The attack on Iran was considered a disastrous failure for the American military. But anyway, the war is over and a peace agreement is being negotiated.

I only hope that the Iranian people will soon restore their economy and overcome the losses caused by the war.

[slapper]

One went semiconductors and the other went centrifuges. Now we are in 2026 watching Iran sign a ceasefire MoU with a 6% GDP contraction and 70% inflation. And they say it is more complicated than that. Sure. All this is more complex. But, the directionality is not complex by any means.

Iran is an excellent source of world class engineers. Tehran, Shiraz, these are not weak institutions. However, Iranians' return rate from abroad studies dropped to around 1%.

Who is responsible for these decision? The IRGC is behind huge swathes of the economy. The clerical establishment's power depends on the resistance narrative. You are asking people to dismantle their own power base for the good of the nation. This rarely occurs without a push in the right direction in human history.

The best defense is prosperity. No one messes with you when you are making everybody's stuff. Iran was equipped with geography, resources, and people to be just that kind of indispensable. That is what hurts the most probably.

The waste. It is just the sheer waste of it.

[Cookdata]

Now, we can see that US and Israel with all their supremacy and their claim  as world  powerfull air force, are fail to achieve a quick win against Iran, they can not achieve their political goal through their attack. From Iran, we can learn that pressure, continuous pressure and extreem pressure always bring adaptation, innovation and revolution. Iran as affected parties by US sanction and embargo for decades has build strong alternative solution ranging from alternative trade route (legal & ilegal), alternative payment systems and partnering with China and Rusia for their survival. We see isolation policy can have different even opposite effect

Technically, I wouldn't call US strategy a failure, they could have won the war if they go band to band but there is going to be a lot of repercussions so much that it wouldn't longer be about the United state, it's going to be US and the entire world. The US has been trying so hard to make world come to their knee not to ever start another world War, if they come for Iran that way, it would destroy years of peace summit they have hosted for several years, the world will destabilize and wouldn't trust them again.

Iran did well, capitalize on every resources they had and let the world know what's happening. All the years of propaganda about Iran came to limelight in this war, like you can't make things up, they couldn't paint them bad and Strait of Hormuz played a huge role on their success. Till now, gas price is yet to crash, oil is not cheap, these are the consequences of strait of Hormuz.

[MusaPk]

Maybe I shouldn't repeat-leak this on an English forum but hey, I know you guys are gonna love it.
Majority of the drones that were used to empty enemy air-defense missiles were ... <drumroll please> ... decoys
We call them "paper drones", think of it as a cardboard box with a battery and a propeller. They probably cost less than $10 LOL

The "decoy war" was actually pretty funny, specially in those times when Pentagon released videos of them having "destroyed" a high value target (like Iran's air-force) using their multi million dollar munitions; and it turned out what the morons in Washington had been boasting about was damage done to a drawing on asphalt ROFL 🤣

If you are placing dummy warplanes on runway even then you have to place some kind of equipment inside it so that it emit necessary radiations and detected by satellites as real warplanes. Through this war and last year confrontation, Iran proved that it has necessary missile and drone technology to defend itself. This is something gulf countries also need to understand that only through self reliance you will be in position to defend yourself and earn respect.

The genocide in GAZA is still underway by Israel and Europe along with US continuously ignoring that. This shows the dual face of big powers that they have no support for humanity but for their own interests. 

[Sticky Bomb]

A stupid post from a Nigerian Trumper. I honestly thought the Maga Trumpers were worst but the Nigerian Trumper?! They leave me stunned day after day.

Defending themselves and their children is part of being humans. You can not tell people oppressed for 45 years how to live their life. You don't like them?! Then you can fvck off respectfully. Keep on kissing ass and shit, it will not improve your brain cells which you have refused to update. And Bombing innocent Children in Palestine, Iran and Lebanon is part of humanity?! So much for being part of humanity.

He wants Iran to focus on technological advancement while its enemies sponsor weaponry that will be used to take everything from Iran in the future. I dont blame OP, though. There are things he really dont understand. When someone wants your downfall, the best thing you can do for yourself is to defend yourself at the same time and throw some punches. Iran has opened the eyes of other nations to see what could happen to them if they relent. I dont see anything more human than this.

If you want to be very vulnerable and an easy target as a government, neglect protecting your country and rely on the dishonest promises countries like the US gives you. I thought people should have learned from the story of  Muammar Gaddafi, who the US became worried about his expanding influence in Africa, including his attempts to unite African nations and disrupt traditional Western financial dominance in the region and had possible arms deals with the Russians. The US saw that his ambition was going against their political and economic interests, they wasted no time to frame and eliminated him.

This is exactly what they are attempting doing in Iran, they know Iran has lots of potentials to dominate the middle east and since it is against their interests, they are fighting Iran. It is a good thing Iran is defending their country. Their resistance and the US continued pressure has surely enlightened most countries that the US are not the saviors of which they present themselves, they only want control over everything and if they can't have access, you become their enemy.