How about voters decides if they allow gambling to be legalize in their country?

[sunsilk]

Is it just a seasonal voting if they will permit to make gambling legal on that area? I think it's a good initiative for those states or areas where they think that gambling addiction has been so rampant.

It's not gonna be a seasonal voting. It seems it's gonna be a definite rule for a gambling company to acquire a license in Steuben. As far as i know the gambling company has to pay the massive fees for the license combined with commitment to invest huge sum of money to help the state to build the infra.

So it's not gonna be a seasonal license. It's more like the voter will decide whether they will approve a long term investmetnt by gambling company or not.

I think that there are countries or states that has that rule that they'll have to invest huge amounts of money in helping building where they'll operate.

And the taxes that will be taken from their operations will certainly go back to the people. But if the decision not to approve them for long term investments.

Then, that's not going to be that much of contribution for them in building the area or improving it through their investment.

[Akbarkoe]

What will be the outcome in your country if your government decides to let its people decide if they want to legalize gambling in your country? with casino operators and supporters, and those opposing, campaigning for legalization or banning. 

This thread is inspired by what happened in

Steuben County officials have approved a measure that will allow voters to decide this fall whether casino gambling should be permitted in the county, a move tied to Indiana’s newly created inland casino licensing process.

Steuben County Moves Casino Question to Voters

If it happens in my country, it will clash with local wisdom and also has been officially prohibited by law, there needs to be an amendment or revision to make changes to the law.
Even if the regional community still wants to open a casino, there needs to be a special area in its management so that not all regions legalize casinos, this is much more solutive,

[Rubuchi]

I dont think that voting will be fair, because those who have never gambled will vote against it, those who have gambled and lost will most likely also vote against it, also people after reading stories how people turn addicted will also vote against. We will get a lot of "NO" votes from those who never involved in gambling and never want to. To make it fair, those who are allowed to vote must be limited, but also will be unfair against others.

but if you think that voting will amount to this large number of negative outcomes like you are currently mentioning the amount of population who are most likely to vote against gambling goes to show that gambling is not really the best for us as people and should not be encouraged. If it was a good something we would have seen more positive responses and you will have also been more confident about the outcome of the voting but since it is not a good something that’s why you are predicting a negative outcome. We still need to do better on how we see gambling over all and avoid to allow gambling sweep away the wealth we have gathered with our hard work and great work.

[lombok]

I dont think that voting will be fair, because those who have never gambled will vote against it, those who have gambled and lost will most likely also vote against it, also people after reading stories how people turn addicted will also vote against. We will get a lot of "NO" votes from those who never involved in gambling and never want to. To make it fair, those who are allowed to vote must be limited, but also will be unfair against others.

but if you think that voting will amount to this large number of negative outcomes like you are currently mentioning the amount of population who are most likely to vote against gambling goes to show that gambling is not really the best for us as people and should not be encouraged. If it was a good something we would have seen more positive responses and you will have also been more confident about the outcome of the voting but since it is not a good something that’s why you are predicting a negative outcome. We still need to do better on how we see gambling over all and avoid to allow gambling sweep away the wealth we have gathered with our hard work and great work.

The fear of biased voting result is an indication of tension between the peoplle and the moral perspectives of the entire society. When a majority turn away gambling, it can be an indicator that they are conscious of the social dangers that much more than money are involved. Well, it is indeed true that we need to be more careful in using our wealth such that we are not tempted to waste it by engaging in speculative activities which in most cases destroy our future.

[o48o]

What will be the outcome in your country if your government decides to let its people decide if they want to legalize gambling in your country? with casino operators and supporters, and those opposing, campaigning for legalization or banning. 

This thread is inspired by what happened in

Steuben County officials have approved a measure that will allow voters to decide this fall whether casino gambling should be permitted in the county, a move tied to Indiana’s newly created inland casino licensing process.

Steuben County Moves Casino Question to Voters

It's already legal, so we are for it, but in here it's monopolized by one non-profit organisation that government controls, and most of us are happy that's the case.

But it's not even as clear as that, as there are ton of different laws that affect in gambling. Like advertisement laws, taxation and what kind of games are legal, what kind of incentives are legal, size of bets and frequency of bets etc.

Gambling wasn't even open 24/7 in here to prevent most addicts going crazy with it. So there are way more shades to it then just being full legal or full illegal.

[Satofan44]

This thread reminds me of my previous thread on this board about Nigerians attitudes to gambling and how much they spend on gambling daily. Nigerians spend $975m daily on online betting I believe you already know what I'm talking about looking at the stats in that thread and I believe the data keeps rising since then.

While your assessment about the country good and most likely a ban would not be voted in, the situation does not look good at all. People are wasting too much money on these things. There is a very thin line between entertainment and addiction when it comes to gambling. If you entertain yourself a lot, you are already addicted. Some people are so lazy and broken that they believe that a human needs many hours of entertainment each day, this is false. That is a sign of a broken and sad human.

I completely agree with the first part. But the second isn't so simple. Even if there are people for whom gambling is harmful (they're either stupid or biologically incapable of self-control), then why can't other sane and normal people gamble because the majority has decided to "save" the defectives by banning gambling altogether? It seems to me that this is the case when democracy turns into ochlocracy or tyranny of the majority.

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Nonsense. Democracy by definition is tyranny of the stupid majority. It does not suddenly become different because you support some decisions that the majority does, or in the case that is given it does not suddenly become a tyranny only because they have decided something that you don't like. If you wanted democracy, there it is and now fucking deal with the useless shit system.

It's already legal, so we are for it, but in here it's monopolized by one non-profit organisation that government controls, and most of us are happy that's the case.

This is not a good under any case, so why would you be happy about that? If gambling is legalized it should be legalized properly and not in a corrupt way.

[Hatchy]

What will be the outcome in your country if your government decides to let its people decide if they want to legalize gambling in your country? with casino operators and supporters, and those opposing, campaigning for legalization or banning. 

Well gambling is very popular in my country so I dont think it would be needed but I will reply based on a scenario gambling was somehow not legally approved in mine. The fact here is such votes will most likely be manipulated. This is just my view though and it would be much easier since alot of gamblers today plays online, they could be paid off through their casino accounts to vote for gambling to be made legal. On the negative side, it most likely would get out of hand. Our children would be in great danger for such open votes. By that I mean, they would be exposed to a lot of promotions both physically and online,trying to tell everyone to vote. They would be tempted to want to see and know what gambling is and eventually want to play on casinos.

[lionheart78]

What will be the outcome in your country if your government decides to let its people decide if they want to legalize gambling in your country? with casino operators and supporters, and those opposing, campaigning for legalization or banning. 

This thread is inspired by what happened in

Steuben County officials have approved a measure that will allow voters to decide this fall whether casino gambling should be permitted in the county, a move tied to Indiana’s newly created inland casino licensing process.

Steuben County Moves Casino Question to Voters

If the government lets the voters decide whether to allow gambling or ban it, I believe gambling will never be legalized.  My country is a mixture of religion, where the majority view gambling in a negative way.

The country has Christian, Protestants, and Muslim as majority of the religions where Muslim dominated the southern part of the country.  These three religion frown on gambling activity and see it as an action against the teaching of God.  So if ever a nationwide vote is implemented for the legalization of gambling, the vote won't favor it.  (Btw, gambling is legal in my country)

[Yeesha]

I am from Nigeria, a country where gambling is legal but there are lots of religious sentiments regarding gambling. Even though gambling is considered legal, gamblers still face some kind of criticism as gamblers are considered irresponsible people.

Assuming gambling was illegal in my country and the masses have to vote to make gambling legal, I am convinced that majority will not Voe for it. These majority will include mothers, wives, religious leaders, political leaders of some regions and the vast population of the overly religious citizens.

What you said is extremely right, gambling is considered as an abomination or a sin, that is the belief of so many individuals in the country, and I believe that is only a small amount of people who are going to vote in favour of making it legal. But what can I say? Everyone has their rights to believe in whatever they think is right or wrong, but they can't deny anyone from freedom of movement. They always see gamblers as an irresponsible person thinking that they are not going to contribute to the society in any way. But it doesn't matter who is judgemental, because as long as you are not a saint you can't judge, and besides no one is a saint and that is justified.

[Orpichukwu]

my country is full of devout christians and catholics who condemn gambling but at the same time gambling rates are high in my country. it’s hard to say for sure because there will be those who would be strongly against even if they gamble themselves. it might be a close call but gambling may end up becoming legal if voters were to decide.

That's to tell you that some people are discriminating against gambling on the outside and are gambling seriously on the inside, some because of their belief they can't accept they are gamblers, but those are even ways of committing sin that they could imagine as grown-up adults. While using religion to deny something you love doing or find joy in doing, is it not better to be one-sided instead of being confused? As I'm now, I'm a Christian, but that does not stop me from gambling, nor has my church preacher mentioned such.

[bhadz]

If that is done in my country, many are going to vote for not allowing gambling to be legalized. That is because of how many irresponsible gamblers have been made by the casinos and even by the government because they run a national lottery which also funds the charity that helps the poor. But even with legal voting, it's no question that there will be illegal operations that will come out. Right now, it's legal and yet, we're seeing a lot of illegal operations in the country. Operated by a local and even foreigners.

[Marykeller]

There is no smoke without fire. For my country to make this kinda move, to let its citizens decide on whether gambling continues to be legalized in the country or not, something must have led to that which got many talking about the negative side of gambling, which has eaten deep into the country, of which many have become addicted gamblers, irresponsible gamblers, a nuisance in society, separated from their families because of gambling.

Despite all the negative voicing, those who will vote for gambling to continue to be legalized will be more than those who don't want gambling in the country.

[Synchronice]

What will be the outcome in your country if your government decides to let its people decide if they want to legalize gambling in your country? with casino operators and supporters, and those opposing, campaigning for legalization or banning. 

This thread is inspired by what happened in

Steuben County officials have approved a measure that will allow voters to decide this fall whether casino gambling should be permitted in the county, a move tied to Indiana’s newly created inland casino licensing process.

Steuben County Moves Casino Question to Voters

If you ask the population, they'll vote for the ban of gambling. If you ask individuals who are addicted to gambling, they'll also might support the ban of gambling but here is the thing, gambling is not banned by some governments because there is tons of money made. Yes, it's beneficial for any government to ban gambling but this is so huge business and so much money is made that no, they won't do it, unless there is politically an extremely terrible situation and they want votes from gambling sector.