Don't PM for merit, no magic tricks for earning merits: advice for forum newbies

[L E G E N D A R Y]

I agree. In my opinion, it's also good that they use AI for something that interests them, and the same goes for social networks. But let's be realistic, if they were even 5% interested in BTC, they would find everything they are interested in on this forum.I look at myself as an example. Apart from BTC, I have come across many quality people here who have knowledge not only about BTC, but about many other things as well.As for the quality of the posts, as you said, it shows. It's bad, it's harder for them to get merit, they have no ideas, and they generally write about things that don't even interest them.What do you think, is there any hope for them?

Well there’s definitely hope for them, but that can only be possible if they can genuinely change their reason for being here. If the only reason someone is posting here is solely because of merits, then finding a genuine idea to write about would automatically become difficult and a struggle for them. But the moment they begin to spend time to read and genuinely participate in topics that truly interest them, then even they would be surprised at how much their writing would gradually improve overtime. What many users fail to understand is that the best way to improve and grow in a community like this is to first stop worrying about merits and focus more on learning something new, something that’s worth sharing.

[bangjoe]

I had a little experience about this and he actually made me ignore his account, to be honest it was a bad action, even though I was not very smart in getting merit, but outsmarting by cooperating or even buying and selling merit in a fraudulent way it was an action that was not at all my style in this competitive forum.
Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

[SuperBitMan]

Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

Yes of course, all you need to do is to post about the matter in reputation board and he will be given a negative or neutral feedback base on the fact of the case.
You can also report the message to mod and they may take action against the person that sent you the message, so you can just choose any of this to do.

Anyone one offering you merit is a merit abuser and probably an account farmer and there are consequences to that in this forum.

[Chinesebaby]

I had a little experience about this and he actually made me ignore his account, to be honest it was a bad action, even though I was not very smart in getting merit, but outsmarting by cooperating or even buying and selling merit in a fraudulent way it was an action that was not at all my style in this competitive forum.
Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

Sending someone PM for merit is almost the same as "begging" for merit on this forum. And according to the unofficial rules of the forum number 7, it clearly states that "No Begging" is allowed. And this act reference above can be categorized as a different form of begging, which is considered an offense on this forum.  So reporting whoever is found guilty of such a crime is never a bad idea, because when other newbies start seeing people getting red-tagged after been reported, such menace will stop automatically.

7. No begging. [5]

[Daniel91]

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I think the problem is probably that online forums are not as popular as they used to be and a lot of new members have probably never been active on any other forum.
Most people today are actually much more active on social networks, which are much more flexible and actually give more freedom because you have your own profile page where you can post whatever you want as long as you don't break some basic laws like fraud, pornography, etc.
Does anyone read any rules on social networks so that they don't spam, plagiarize, etc.? Of course not.
When such young members come to this forum they probably think they can post whatever they want and don't understand that the rules here are stricter than on social networks.
When new members realize that they need to earn merits to advance on this forum and possibly monetize their forum status, they probably become frustrated and want to find a shortcut to quickly collect enough merits, which can then turn into unwanted activity, sending messages to older members and begging for merits.

What do you think, how many young people actually come to this forum? I think it's a very small percentage, but it's true that the younger generations are generally lazy and want everything quickly. First of all, they should read the forum rules carefully, but apparently even that is difficult Rarely does a younger member actually understand BTC and some of the things related to it. They probably think that begging for merit is a good thing, while they don't even realize that they are actually breaking the forum rules themselves and risking getting their account tagged.

My opinion, based on some research and analysis I've read, is that young people, the so-called Generation Z, use social networks for communication, and when it comes to searching for information, AI is increasingly replacing Google.
I think that there is a very small number of young people who actually use Internet forums for communication or to search for information.
Generation Z also has problems in expressing themselves, reading, writing meaningful messages and posts, etc.
This is an additional reason why they avoid online forums.
In support of this thesis, the statistics about the continuous decline in activity on this forum speak for themselves.
Signature campaigns have prevented a larger and faster decline in activity on this forum, but the quality of new members' posts can be seen.
Because of this, it is more difficult for them to get merits and progress on this forum, which then makes it difficult for them to monetize their status on this forum. This of course creates frustration and some of them start begging older members for merits through private messages, which should not happen.

I agree. In my opinion, it's also good that they use AI for something that interests them, and the same goes for social networks. But let's be realistic, if they were even 5% interested in BTC, they would find everything they are interested in on this forum.I look at myself as an example. Apart from BTC, I have come across many quality people here who have knowledge not only about BTC, but about many other things as well.As for the quality of the posts, as you said, it shows. It's bad, it's harder for them to get merit, they have no ideas, and they generally write about things that don't even interest them.What do you think, is there any hope for them?

I'm afraid not. 
Realistically, this forum is a treasure trove of useful information and can help many, who are genuinely interested in bitcoin and crypto, to quickly find quality answers from experts to their questions, and much better answers than AI will give them.
I believe that there are many people, both registered on this forum and those who are not, who use this forum for this very purpose.
However, I think that young people just don't like reading books or long texts in online forums and that they prefer short and quick, simple answers from AI rather than detailed and long answers in forums.
On that side, not only this forum but all internet forums are losing the battle and are slowly losing the number of members and activities.
This forum is helped by signature campaign and the possibility of status monetization, so the drop in the number of members and activities is smaller, but this only means that we have a lot of new members who join this forum not because of interest in btc or crypto, but because they heard from someone that something can be earned here.
When they realize that the basic prerequisite for this is forum rank, which depends on the number of merits, then they try to find some shortcut and start begging for merits, because most of them have no interest in crypto and don't know what to write on this forum.

[Nightwatchmare]

I had a little experience about this and he actually made me ignore his account, to be honest it was a bad action, even though I was not very smart in getting merit, but outsmarting by cooperating or even buying and selling merit in a fraudulent way it was an action that was not at all my style in this competitive forum.
Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

Earning merit in this forum consistently is difficult but that does not warrant someone to PM a merit source and beg him of merit, if people notice they are not earning merit they should work on themselves and contribute meaningfully in the forum because that is the only way they can earn merit. Begging for merit is an act of cheating the merit system, and the rules of this forum is against that, so if anyone is guilty of that the person can be punish by the authority according to the rules of the forum.

[Comeacross]

Sending someone PM for merit is almost the same as "begging" for merit on this forum. And according to the unofficial rules of the forum number 7, it clearly states that "No Begging" is allowed. And this act reference above can be categorized as a different form of begging, which is considered an offense on this forum.  So reporting whoever is found guilty of such a crime is never a bad idea, because when other newbies start seeing people getting red-tagged after been reported, such menace will stop automatically.

7. No begging. [5]

You're right but the rule you referenced is not specifically about merit. That rule is primarily to discourage forum begging for monetary assets. If you check the source, you'll understand better where the rule is headed.

For merit begging, the forum admin already made it clear in the past and that should be the relevant reference since it directly talk about merit begging.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

[Humblevirus]

I had a little experience about this and he actually made me ignore his account, to be honest it was a bad action, even though I was not very smart in getting merit, but outsmarting by cooperating or even buying and selling merit in a fraudulent way it was an action that was not at all my style in this competitive forum.
Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

Earning merit in this forum consistently is difficult but that does not warrant someone to PM a merit source and beg him of merit, if people notice they are not earning merit they should work on themselves and contribute meaningfully in the forum because that is the only way they can earn merit. Begging for merit is an act of cheating the merit system, and the rules of this forum is against that, so if anyone is guilty of that the person can be punish by the authority according to the rules of the forum.

I don't know. Maybe some new members don't read the rules of the forum, or they have simply decided to break them. It is clear that begging for merit is not allowed, so why would they do it?Some of them also know that even if they try to break the rules by sending PMs and asking for merit, high-ranking members may never be foolish enough to give them merit because they know that doing so goes against the forum rules. That is a very bad act because anything the forum is against is for the betterment of the forum and its members.Sending a PM asking for merit will never solve any member's problems. Instead, trying to add merit to an account where it is not deserved can likely result in the account being tagged, and by doing so, the account's value and reputation may be reduced.

[Big Dirams]

I had a little experience about this and he actually made me ignore his account, to be honest it was a bad action, even though I was not very smart in getting merit, but outsmarting by cooperating or even buying and selling merit in a fraudulent way it was an action that was not at all my style in this competitive forum.
Can something like this be reported? or make us have the authority to give a red tag to anyone who invites to do this stupid behavior? (even if it is just an invitation or an offer).

Earning merit in this forum consistently is difficult but that does not warrant someone to PM a merit source and beg him of merit, if people notice they are not earning merit they should work on themselves and contribute meaningfully in the forum because that is the only way they can earn merit. Begging for merit is an act of cheating the merit system, and the rules of this forum is against that, so if anyone is guilty of that the person can be punish by the authority according to the rules of the forum.

I don't know. Maybe some new members don't read the rules of the forum, or they have simply decided to break them. It is clear that begging for merit is not allowed, so why would they do it?Some of them also know that even if they try to break the rules by sending PMs and asking for merit, high-ranking members may never be foolish enough to give them merit because they know that doing so goes against the forum rules. That is a very bad act because anything the forum is against is for the betterment of the forum and its members.Sending a PM asking for merit will never solve any member's problems. Instead, trying to add merit to an account where it is not deserved can likely result in the account being tagged, and by doing so, the account's value and reputation may be reduced.

Some new members don’t actually go through the rules thoroughly that is even if they do. But come to think of it why would someone be in a new environment or community and won’t bother about how things goes down there and what are actually the rules and regulations governing a place. How are we going to acts on a new place when we don’t actually know how the place works.
 Begging for merits from other members isn’t ideal because we are just looking for a shortcut to rank up to the next ranks without actual hard work and understanding and at the end it will caught up to us, we can’t escape it.