Don't PM for merit, no magic tricks for earning merits: advice for forum newbies

[Exitoral]

When I was a newbie the first thing I did was to read the rules. People fail to do that as they do also to terms and conditions. No body reads that. We should have the habit to always read rules and regulations and also terms and conditions. Laziness is not encouraged here. Let's me guided newbies.

[Akaenyi]

Since merit is earned in this forum by other members given you at their own free will there is nothing anybody can do if their posts are not getting merit. It means that your post have to meet the quality standard of one or more people to get merit, if it is not happening yet then you have to focus on learning and being active as a newbie. Begging of merit is downgrading, if you are not getting merit yet you should try not to let it bother you because there are other benefits in the forum like increasing your knowledge by learning for free.

My observation is that if you are not a very technical person it means that your merit rise will be gradual, you can focus on boards that you can make quality posts and somehow somebody will notice and give you merit. Merit hunt is a distraction for newbies because you cannot force anybody to give them to you, you should try and make quality posts and leave the rest.

[348Judah]

Any newbie that is willing to learn and follow the due process will see that this forum is nothing so difficult to comprehend, we may not achieve better results without learning and this is why we have to get used to how the forum is, which starts by reading the rules and regulation and checking occasionally some of the pinned threads on how we could make a quality post and that saves the rest.

[CryptSafe]

I think he or she is curious about the merit system and want to know more from you as a reputable member. Sometimes one's innocence can put them into trouble and they will not have idea what they did that nobody is looking at them to merit them because they already put them in their ignore list.  I believe if you had put up the name of that newbie, that holder would have been tagged or nuked by the admin and for sure taggs would go in for it.

One thing I will advise newbie members is that they should be real, organic and make good contributions to the platform. Also they should be themselves and work on their strength on the platform because copying some other person's pattern would yield them no results. So putting efforts to learn and grow up on the platform should be a major focus if they want grow up her on this platform as members.

[Rikafip]

Begging in form of any form is against the rules of the forum. So, directly or indirectly asking for merit from a member is wrong.

Call me naive, but I didn't get the impression that he was actually begging for merit in the post that OP quoted, and instead he wanted to know what he can do to earn more merit.

Sending unsolicited messages is also not welcome, so let others take note.

That he is guilty of, and it can easily get you into trouble if the person you send a PM to decides to report you.

[BitBakerr1]

I have gotten a message like this before asking me to give him merit till date I didn’t reply the user, and now his doing very well, when you start something newly you will always feel you can’t make it or pass through it you will see it as something that is very difficult but if you should put your mind in it, you can actually do it. There’s nothing impossible in this life the same way other people did it that’s same way you can also do it.
I think newbies are just in a rush to rank up and that is why they are sending messages to people for help, if a newbie always visit this forum and contribute very well his going to rank up just like others.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

That he is guilty of, and it can easily get you into trouble if the person you send a PM to decides to report you.

It can cause a ban on your account but the ban severity depends on how many people you sent PMs, how many reports they made about your account, and how many PMs you sent in a long or short time.

Especially if this PM sending action is repeated many times, the ban will be more likely used for your account, and it will be even a permanent ban when your account is banned like third or fourth time.

[leonair]

Those who do not know about the forum rules and who have no creativity in them send such messages. Merit is not something to beg for. Maximum Newbies do not understand these things clearly. They see that members with high ranks always get merit, so they think that if they message big members and ask for help, they will give merit. It is like the concept of social media, if you are by their side, you will get by their side, if you follow them, you will get 100% follow back.

Just go to PROFILE - Personal Message Options - Allow newbies to send you PMs. turn off Allow newbies PMs and just avoid such spam pm by Newbies.

[Charcol]

I am quoting a few below, and even others who think that the newbie is begging or asking for merit may have started writing without reading the OP's post properly. I do not see anywhere in the quote that the newbie asked for merit. Rather, he clearly says that he did not come to ask for merit. Rather, he came to know what other users, including @The Cryptovator, consider when giving merit to other people's posts. I do not think it is a crime, because a newbie would definitely not know this. And maybe he sees @The Cryptovator as his role model. However, the mistake of the new user is that he asked through (pm). He should probably have asked by posting on the forum. Then @The Cryptovator and other legends could have answered his question. However, @The Cryptovator must be thanked because he gave the right answer.

Begging in form of any form is against the rules of the forum. So, directly or indirectly asking for merit from a member is wrong.

All I see here is desperation from them newbies that randomly send such messages soliciting merits.

Maybe they are even not newbies as if the PM receivers are merit sources, I assume that such Newbies truly knew which forum members are merit sources, and they beg merit from merit sources by sending PMs. By knowing that information, I guess they also knew that the forum is against merit begging but you know with newbie accounts, what will they lose?

It could have been better had it been that what they sent are links to quality post and not for soliciting for merits, moreover all these are not even an excuse to PM a merit source or any individual for merit, to me is even against the forum rule because it is not expected that we should beg or ask for merit to be given to us,

[LogitechMouse]

There is no place for begging in the forum, to earn merit, every person must create quality posts, for this, both newcomers and experienced people in the forum need to gain knowledge about new things. Develop the habit of reading regularly and create helpful or informative posts. However, not all good posts can be expected to earn merit, it can be more disappointing.
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You're overexaggerating LOL. 

Tell to us where's the point where the newbie is begging for merit to the OP? It's pretty obvious that he's just asking towards him, and he isn't begging. Call me stupid, but SOME users here are very harsh towards newbies that even a simple PM towards a high-ranked user is being labeled as "BEGGING" already where in fact, they aren't begging or they didn't even used the word at all. Users are overcomplicating things where in fact, it's just a simple question coming from a newbie that just want to ask with regards to merits. Nothing more, nothing less. Can we please be better at understanding questions?

If there's something wrong about the newbie's PM to the OP then we can say harsh things to that newbie, but in this case, this is just a mere question, and the best thing that we can do is to give the BEST answer that we can give and in this case, the OP gave it. Yes, there's no place for begging here in the forum, but can we just please be a little less harsher to the newbies?

[hd49728]

I am quoting a few below, and even others who think that the newbie is begging or asking for merit may have started writing without reading the OP's post properly. I do not see anywhere in the quote that the newbie asked for merit. Rather, he clearly says that he did not come to ask for merit. Rather, he came to know what other users, including @The Cryptovator, consider when giving merit to other people's posts. I do not think it is a crime, because a newbie would definitely not know this.

Lol. It's a clever unofficial merit begging.

Rather than writing that long message for asking about merit, how to earn merit, and criteria for a merited post, that newbie can simply reading and knowing about it. Don't PM, but spend time for reading and searching, he will easily know how to earn merit because in this forum, there are enough topics and posts guiding about that.

Let's simplify and save time by asking with ChatGPT, the answer will be clear and good enough.

[Doan9269]

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Let's forget about how it was being presented, but between me and you, it is obvious that the reason behind sending PM in such manner is to get merit and solicit indirectly, moreover OP would have been receiving similar request like that, which I'm not against him sending or requireing for his account to be checked, but the question is why or what is the motive behind this.

[YellowSwap]

Begging in form of any form is against the rules of the forum. So, directly or indirectly asking for merit from a member is wrong.

Call me naive, but I didn't get the impression that he was actually begging for merit in the post that OP quoted, and instead he wanted to know what he can do to earn more merit.

Sending unsolicited messages is also not welcome, so let others take note.

That he is guilty of, and it can easily get you into trouble if the person you send a PM to decides to report you.

I feel the same, there is no impression for merit begging, I don't see any indirect idea that this person used to ask for merits.

All he did was asked for a effective way to earn merits, it was just a question but I guess people get pissed easily on this forum, that PM isn't enough reason to make a topic out of it.

I don't blame OP, I blame the newbie who would have used the PM to create a Topic instead because he is still going to get this same replies from members on here.

OP should have waited for the newbie to drag themselves in the dirt first, this is not a genuine reason to say that all they wanted is free merits.

[Alpha Marine]

I like that you didn't report or tag the account. It may genuinely be a rookie mistake, and if he actually wants to grow on the forum, the person deserves a chance, and also because the person didn't ask for merit per se, he asked how he could get it.
It's also good you brought the topic to the open, not like it would stop newbies who want to still beg for merit, but you never know who might need it. To a certain extent, I understand the person. He may actually genuinely just want to grow. Anyway, genuine or not, only time would tell.

A lot of newbies who get to the forum are anxious to rank up. They want it immediately. Fortunately, the forum is not built that way. One way or the other, it's going to take a few steps. People who actually spend time and learn get to grow.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

So my answer was very simple. There are no magic tricks for earning merits; you have to spend more time to learn first, and then you have to contribute to the forum. Except for this, there are no quick magic tricks. This answer is for all newbies; I didn't take it negatively since he is still a learner and he may be curious about earning merits.

Also, my advice to all newbies: don't send such a PM to any user. Because if someone takes it negatively and reports it to the admin, then you might get your account banned. On the other hand, DT members would tag as well if they took it negatively. This won't be a good practice for newbies; don't make a merit post or don't send a merit PM.

It is no doubt that each day, the greatest wishes of every newbie is to get merited and rank-up as fast as possible. But yet, it's sad that these newbies fail to understand that merit is what is been given in exchange for providing value to discussion on this prestigious forum. And as such, I'm happy for the advice you just gave the newbie, telling their is no magic trick or exact formula to getting merit on this forum, as he/she needs to spend time and contribute to forum. However, I think their is a small trick which I think newbies who wishes to grow on this forum can take advantage of, and by that I mean for them to not focus on discussing on congested board like the "Gambling board" and focus on engaging on discussing on less congested board like "Biginners & Help, Bitcoin Discussion and Meta", because that's the board which the most people have tend to have the most merit. So replicating what's working is the best way to attract similar result.

[Makus]

Whatever you do not be desperate to find an easy way, although I would not blame any newbie that does this because they are still new to the forum and might not know how the system works but it's not right to pm anyone and beg for merits because that's not how it works, you get merits when you earn them and asking people for it. The frustration of being stuck in a particular level or not being able to grow an account can make people do this but as newbies. Focus more on making gaining knowledge than earning merits when you are still learning about the forum.

[Kelward]

I like that you didn't report or tag the account. It may genuinely be a rookie mistake, and if he actually wants to grow on the forum, the person deserves a chance, and also because the person didn't ask for merit per se, he asked how he could get it.
It's also good you brought the topic to the open, not like it would stop newbies who want to still beg for merit, but you never know who might need it. To a certain extent, I understand the person. He may actually genuinely just want to grow. Anyway, genuine or not, only time would tell.

A lot of newbies who get to the forum are anxious to rank up. They want it immediately. Fortunately, the forum is not built that way. One way or the other, it's going to take a few steps. People who actually spend time and learn get to grow.

Showing maturity in dealing with newbies when they make mistakes is a good cause, some will act out of ignorance and overstep their boundaries maybe due to desperation to learn and grow in forum ranks. It is important that we try to understand why newbies confide in us to get answers although I don't support them making it private by sending PMs they can start a topic and genuinely get help in areas where they have chalanges.

If a newbie makes a mistake for the first time it can be taken that it was out of ignorance but when such newbie is given direction or advice and the "mistake" is repeated again then we can conclude that it is intentional. I like that OP didn't report the newbie as a first time offender from his observation but if he finds out that the newbie is still directly or indirectly begging for merit then he can take a drastic action against the account.