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Today at 05:31:18 AM
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Adding the word newbies doesn’t change things a whole lot.

Likewise, don't take the word "newbie" for granted. Everyone understands perfectly well what kind of "newbie" these are.¯\_(ᐛ )_/


As they say in our region, "As you sow, so shall you reap," and it seems that the weeds bore much better than the wheat.

Besides, the one who directly multiplies alts is the source of merits. It seems this pointless discussion won't change anything.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3423588

Yes, the forum needs people, lots of people. Grin

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Today at 06:25:31 AM
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Greeting to you all my fellow bitcointalk members. This thread was as a result of what i have observed on the forum so i do not know if something similar has been discussed about before. However, i used the search button and could not find anything of this kind.
It has discussed many times on the forum, topic title would different but not sure why have you failed to find through the search button.

As we all know, bitcointalk is one of the oldest cryptocurrency forums, and over the year the forum has developed systems to reduce spam, scams, plagiarism, and low quality discussions. while these changes have helped improve the quality of the forum, i sometime wonder whether the forum has also become more difficult for genuine beginners.
Probably difficult for newbies, not for genuine newbies. A newbie really doesn't need ranks or merits to learn from the forum and contribute to the forum as well.

Well, i am still new to the forum just a year plus, but as history has it. Years ago, ranking up on the forum was not really as difficult as it is now, back them ranking up was mainly based on activity, but today merit plays the major role in ranking up, and this have changed how users interact on the forum.
Merits are reward of your contribution and recognition to the forum. Still you can learn, engage on discussion or ask questions out of the ranks.

The merit system was introduced for a good reason because many users were making meaningless posts, low quality post and even spamming only to join signature campaigns. and without the system who knows what the forum could become by now.
Those intended to earn quick money from the forum, they think for quick rank up. Rather a newbie should focus to engage discussion, learn and contribute.

Perhaps from a beginner's perspective things may look different. A newbie can spend weeks, months making posts on the forum without receiving a single merit. sometimes the newbie may even have useful opinions but struggle because they do not know how to structure quality discussions or older members may ignore their post due to low rank.
Doesn't matter older users ignore a post, there are a lot of merit source they might notice. Otherwise there are couple of merits threads where newbies could raise there post to draw attention from the merit sources.

Frankly speaking, all these things sometimes can make genuine newbies to be discouraged quickly and began to feel that ranking up depends more on recognition than efforts and that's how i see the forum now.  Personally, i would say that this frustration sometimes can push newbies towards copy pasting, Ai generated content, account farming and so on just to survive on the forum.  So, please older users not only merit sources should have rethink genuine newbies are struggling to grow on the forum.
It's true newbies would have to struggle to build their profile here, but genuine newbies achieve their goal end of the day. So it's challenging for newbies to become a genuine newbie.

 
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Today at 06:31:32 AM
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I think signature campaigns are also part of the problem.
Take a look at the most active users from the past week: if you ignore ChartBuddy (a bot in WO), 100% of the Top 20 is paid by the same signature campaign that's paid spammers for many years. It's not far fetched to say the Top 20 would look different if they wouldn't be paid for it.

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Today at 10:40:36 AM
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Greeting to you all my fellow bitcointalk members. This thread was as a result of what i have observed on the forum so i do not know if something similar has been discussed about before. However, i used the search button and could not find anything of this kind.

As we all know, bitcointalk is one of the oldest cryptocurrency forums, and over the year the forum has developed systems to reduce spam, scams, plagiarism, and low quality discussions. while these changes have helped improve the quality of the forum, i sometime wonder whether the forum has also become more difficult for genuine beginners.

Well, i am still new to the forum just a year plus, but as history has it. Years ago, ranking up on the forum was not really as difficult as it is now, back them ranking up was mainly based on activity, but today merit plays the major role in ranking up, and this have changed how users interact on the forum.

The merit system was introduced for a good reason because many users were making meaningless posts, low quality post and even spamming only to join signature campaigns. and without the system who knows what the forum could become by now.

Perhaps from a beginner's perspective things may look different. A newbie can spend weeks, months making posts on the forum without receiving a single merit. sometimes the newbie may even have useful opinions but struggle because they do not know how to structure quality discussions or older members may ignore their post due to low rank.
Personally, from what I've observed, it's easy to get the merits if you know what you're doing. Even newbies will get merits as long as they have good content to give. You can't come in as a noob and begin to start teaching something that has already been addressed and then expect that merits will fall. It's also funny that some newbies who come here and ask for guidelines on how to operate on the forum don't have the patience to carry on.
 The forum has evolved. I came here over three years ago and have discovered that its not just what the forum will give to you that should make one stay here else you'd get easily disinterested when things, especially merits aren't coming.

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Today at 10:44:43 AM
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Besides, the one who directly multiplies alts is the source of merits.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=3423588
And then I hear some merit sources saying that its not really worth it being merit sources and and all you get are complaints, but here is the proof that it can actually be quite lucrative.  Cheesy

Joke aside, how the fuck is he still a merit source?


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Today at 10:59:00 AM
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~snip~
Joke aside, how the fuck is he still a merit source?


Have you ever heard of someone stopping being a merit source because an admin removed him just like that? As far as I know, you can only lose merits source status if you are inactive or perhaps in the event that serious abuse of it is proven.

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