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[Cointxz]

At first I thought that it's sports betting arbitrage but if you're going to bet for the same bet, I don't think that it calls for any violation by doing that.

So, if you're going to do that and you think that there's a violation that you've done. It is for the bookies to say that you did.

But if it's just fine, you haven't done anything wrong then.

There’s a potential violation on this assuming he was limited on other sportsbook that use the same odds provider like betsby for example. There’s only a maximum bet limit per user on specific bet set by odds provider which they immediately notice once someone with same IP using different casino account to place same bet.

Odds provider will flag the account to the sportsbook that will result to potential ban or being limited on insanely low amount.

But if this bet is just below max bet spread different casino then this is acceptable.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If you are sure of the game you are betting you can even place a bet twice or more than in same casino if you are sure of the bet or your prediction is correct as you may think it should be.

There are some bookies  that  doesn't allow you to place bet twice on same match, if you do and win both tickets, they might not let you have the second ticket or they might allow you but if they observe that that's what the player is doing always, they will block the person's account. I have heard someone with such experience share their encounter, so if OP is to do so in a different bookie, he will not get have any problem.

[Betwrong]

~By the way, I had the same bets in different casinos, and I never had any problems... but it's worth saying that I don't bet with huge amounts, and I never had a crazy winning streak. Sometimes, it looks like those who are betting big & winning are having problems with casinos. At least, it's some conclusion we can take from all the scam accusations in that section.

I don't know about those who win millions, but we see proof on this very forum that winning thousands of dollars causes no problems at all, and people are able to withdraw their winnings with no questions asked. I have never won some crazy amounts either, because my bets are always small, but that's how I prefer to do my gambling and recommend other gamblers to never bet more than they can easily afford to lose.

[stadus]

If you are sure of the game you are betting you can even place a bet twice or more than in same casino if you are sure of the bet or your prediction is correct as you may think it should be.

There are some bookies  that  doesn't allow you to place bet twice on same match, if you do and win both tickets, they might not let you have the second ticket or they might allow you but if they observe that that's what the player is doing always, they will block the person's account. I have heard someone with such experience share their encounter, so if OP is to do so in a different bookie, he will not get have any problem.

Which specific sportsbook do you know that does this? I’ve placed the same bet twice many times without any problem. For example, I might initially bet $100 on a match, then add another $100 before the game because I’ve become more confident that my pick will win. When the bet wins, both wagers are paid.

That’s why it’s hard for me to believe that some sportsbooks might refuse to pay in this situation. It doesn’t seem justifiable. What rule would a bettor even be violating by placing the same bet twice?

[Natalim]

There’s a potential violation on this assuming he was limited on other sportsbook that use the same odds provider like betsby for example. There’s only a maximum bet limit per user on specific bet set by odds provider which they immediately notice once someone with same IP using different casino account to place same bet.

Odds provider will flag the account to the sportsbook that will result to potential ban or being limited on insanely low amount.

But if this bet is just below max bet spread different casino then this is acceptable.

That’s very unfair to gamblers. How are we supposed to know that we’re not allowed to bet on another casino, especially if we don’t know that it’s connected to the one we’re already using?

Sometimes bettors get limited and decide to use another sportsbook. If we accidentally choose one that is linked to the original sportsbook without knowing it, that shouldn’t be our fault. Their system should flag the account and reject the bet from the beginning. Refusing to pay only after the bet wins doesn’t look fair, especially since I’m sure they wouldn’t refund the money if the bet lost.

[Slow death]

That’s very unfair to gamblers. How are we supposed to know that we’re not allowed to bet on another casino, especially if we don’t know that it’s connected to the one we’re already using?

Sometimes bettors get limited and decide to use another sportsbook. If we accidentally choose one that is linked to the original sportsbook without knowing it, that shouldn’t be our fault. Their system should flag the account and reject the bet from the beginning. Refusing to pay only after the bet wins doesn’t look fair, especially since I’m sure they wouldn’t refund the money if the bet lost.

The main point is why someone would bet, for example, on Spain winning against Argentina, placing $100 at betting site X, but then bet $200 on Argentina winning at betting site Z? The point at which betting sites start to pursue someone is when they realize the person is consistently winning and increasing their bets.

Then, the betting sites investigate what they are doing at other betting sites. Betting sites call this arbitrage. Today, for example, Spain has odds of @2.30 if they win, while Argentina has @3.00. Those who like arbitrage have probably already bet on Spain winning at casino X and on Argentina winning at casino Z. This way, they consistently profit because there are few games that end in a draw.

I only use one betting site. I have never done arbitrage and I wouldn't under any circumstances. I don't advise anyone to do that.

[Betwrong]

~ The main point is why someone would bet, for example, on Spain winning against Argentina, placing $100 at betting site X, but then bet $200 on Argentina winning at betting site Z? The point at which betting sites start to pursue someone is when they realize the person is consistently winning and increasing their bets.

Then, the betting sites investigate what they are doing at other betting sites. Betting sites call this arbitrage. Today, for example, Spain has odds of @2.30 if they win, while Argentina has @3.00. Those who like arbitrage have probably already bet on Spain winning at casino X and on Argentina winning at casino Z. This way, they consistently profit because there are few games that end in a draw.

I only use one betting site. I have never done arbitrage and I wouldn't under any circumstances. I don't advise anyone to do that.

Yes, but those few games is enough to make the whole enterprise unprofitable. Using your example, it's a loss of $300 each time when those "few games" happen. And now evaluate how much you win cumulatively when you are placing $100 at betting site X and then bet $200 betting site Z. Keep in mind that sometimes your win is only $30, because your bet of $200 on betting site Z is lost.

[sotelorene]

~By the way, I had the same bets in different casinos, and I never had any problems... but it's worth saying that I don't bet with huge amounts, and I never had a crazy winning streak. Sometimes, it looks like those who are betting big & winning are having problems with casinos. At least, it's some conclusion we can take from all the scam accusations in that section.

I don't know about those who win millions, but we see proof on this very forum that winning thousands of dollars causes no problems at all, and people are able to withdraw their winnings with no questions asked. I have never won some crazy amounts either, because my bets are always small, but that's how I prefer to do my gambling and recommend other gamblers to never bet more than they can easily afford to lose.

We share same sentiment here, I have not seen anyone win millions of dollars too but I have seen where someone made a complain in the forum that he won some thousands of dollars I think that was winna.com and they said he manipulated the game but I do not know how anyways. Using an amount we can afford to lose is the best thing any gambler will ever do for themselves because at the end of the day you won't have to worry even if you made loss.

[Sticky Bomb]

This is not a violation at all and there is no way each casino will know whether place a bet on the same option on different casinos.
There are also some casinos that allow you to place bet on the same option on multiple times without any violation..~

I have a feeling that I use only these casinos, you've mentioned. If I bet $1 on an outcome and then think, I should've bet $2, I just place another bet on the same event with the same outcome. Basically, you can bet $10 on Liverpool's win or you can place ten bets, one dollar each, on Liverpool's win. I don't understand why some people think it should be prohibited.

I've not come across a law in casinos T&C that prohibits it, I don't even see any need to prohibit it since it direct necessarily guarantee profitability. I've done this countries times in the past and I can attest that it's not very profitable, you still record loses on the long-run because you would increase your stakes very well for a selection with very lower odds especially if the games is between a favorite and an underdog. I've not tried to place bets on different options of a match in the same sports book, I instinctively assume it's wrong, but I'll try it one of these days to see how it plays out.

[Doan9269]

Is it a crime or against casino policy for me to place bets on the same game at the same option at different casinos?

Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with such move by you, on casinos, we can have several gamblers that will place a particular bet the same way and the only thing that we distinguish each one is their betting slip because it will come with a unique code to identify each gamblers, same applies on other gambling casino as you are free to use any game combination and play, but to conclude on this, it is not also safe for us to work on assumption without confirming all these if being accepted by a particular gambling casino through their terms of service.

[Betwrong]

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We share same sentiment here, I have not seen anyone win millions of dollars too but I have seen where someone made a complain in the forum that he won some thousands of dollars I think that was winna.com and they said he manipulated the game but I do not know how anyways. Using an amount we can afford to lose is the best thing any gambler will ever do for themselves because at the end of the day you won't have to worry even if you made loss.

It would be interesting to know what did they mean exactly by "manipulated the game". I think they should state in Terms and Conditions what you can't do in sports betting and otherwise let it be.

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I've not come across a law in casinos T&C that prohibits it, I don't even see any need to prohibit it since it direct necessarily guarantee profitability. I've done this countries times in the past and I can attest that it's not very profitable, you still record loses on the long-run because you would increase your stakes very well for a selection with very lower odds especially if the games is between a favorite and an underdog.

That's what I'm saying. It's possible and it's allowed on all casinos I played. There's no reason to prohibit it or call it "manipulation."

I've not tried to place bets on different options of a match in the same sports book, I instinctively assume it's wrong, but I'll try it one of these days to see how it plays out.

I tried it right now for the sake of the experiment.



Here I placed three bets on all possible outcomes. I know, I will lose some money, but not much. For the sake of the experiment it's worth it.

[viljy]

Such a ban (which the OP described), if it existed, would rather violate the rights of bettors. A bettor has the right to place the same or different bets in several casinos, and even more so in the prediction markets. Moreover, for the same or different amounts, it is also the bettor's choice. The other side of this question is how profitable or unprofitable it is for the bettor to do this.

But this does not automatically mean that it should be prohibited, because it can allegedly be considered manipulation. In general, if there are such restrictions, it is better to switch from a bookmaker to a decentralized prediction market, where there is more freedom from restrictions.

[Frankolala]

If you are placing the same bet in different casinos, it's not a crime but if it's in the same casino, it's a crime to have duplicate bets. This is the reason you see some gamblers having two, three or four casinos that they registered with different casinos entirely so that, they can bet in them if they want to duplicate their bets, since they know that Arbitrage bet is a big offense.

[eisen33]

That’s very unfair to gamblers. How are we supposed to know that we’re not allowed to bet on another casino, especially if we don’t know that it’s connected to the one we’re already using?

Sometimes bettors get limited and decide to use another sportsbook. If we accidentally choose one that is linked to the original sportsbook without knowing it, that shouldn’t be our fault. Their system should flag the account and reject the bet from the beginning. Refusing to pay only after the bet wins doesn’t look fair, especially since I’m sure they wouldn’t refund the money if the bet lost.

Everything should be clear to the player, if such restrictions exist, they should be communicated. It seems to me that such rules could be in user agreements, but almost no one reads them, so until you encounter them yourself, you won't know what they are. However, I think this is rare, as I've never been restricted in my bets by any casino, and therefore I've never needed to duplicate my bet at another casino.

[Ishicryptic]

If you are placing the same bet in different casinos, it's not a crime but if it's in the same casino, it's a crime to have duplicate bets. This is the reason you see some gamblers having two, three or four casinos that they registered with different casinos entirely so that, they can bet in them if they want to duplicate their bets, since they know that Arbitrage bet is a big offense.

Casinos cannot have a problem with a bettor who is placing the same bet in their site that they placed on another site, I know that they will be happy for it because if the gambler concentrated only other gambling sites to place their bet and it's not theirs they wouldn't profit from it assuming the bettor loses his bet. It is the bettor that is taking multiple risks by placing the same bet in multiple sites, if he loses in one he has lost in all of them despite whether it's the same amount or not but if he wins it means that it would be multiple wins for him. Placing duplicate bets on the same casino doesn't even make sense to me, it's better to decide how much you are willing to stake and do it once in a casino instead of risking being denied your withdrawal if you win.

[Dareo]

It is perfectly normal to place the same bet on the same match at different casinos. Most of the people who does sports betting, have accounts at multiple sportsbooks, as not all of them have the same odds. So it would not be fair to say that the policy has been violated just because of this.

Does that in any way violate any sports betting policy?

Where problems can arise is if you have multiple accounts at the same casino, abuse bonuses or violate the Terms. Most sportsbooks take these seriously. But placing bets in your own name at different casinos is usually a different matter.

[danherbias07]

~By the way, I had the same bets in different casinos, and I never had any problems... but it's worth saying that I don't bet with huge amounts, and I never had a crazy winning streak. Sometimes, it looks like those who are betting big & winning are having problems with casinos. At least, it's some conclusion we can take from all the scam accusations in that section.

I don't know about those who win millions, but we see proof on this very forum that winning thousands of dollars causes no problems at all, and people are able to withdraw their winnings with no questions asked. I have never won some crazy amounts either, because my bets are always small, but that's how I prefer to do my gambling and recommend other gamblers to never bet more than they can easily afford to lose.

Yeah, as long as we are following their rules and terms. If KYC is needed, it's better filled out first before winning something big. Because it can become a problem once we win and have never taken those terms yet. The gambling site or sports bookies will probably give us a hard time even if we produce what is needed.

So, even if we use two different online sports bookies, it won't matter. If we win on both websites, I do believe we can withdraw it without any problem, even if we are betting the favorite on one end and the underdog on the other. It's all legal.

[stadus]

Yeah, as long as we are following their rules and terms. If KYC is needed, it's better filled out first before winning something big. Because it can become a problem once we win and have never taken those terms yet. The gambling site or sports bookies will probably give us a hard time even if we produce what is needed.

So, even if we use two different online sports bookies, it won't matter. If we win on both websites, I do believe we can withdraw it without any problem, even if we are betting the favorite on one end and the underdog on the other. It's all legal.

These are the things we really need to consider. Some casino sites allow us to play without KYC, but assuming they will never ask for it is a mistake.

From the start, we should already check if the casino is licensed and reputable. They may not require KYC when you deposit or start playing, but once you win a big amount, they can still ask for it. So if we’re gambling and hoping to win big, we should also be ready to complete KYC. It would be painful to have your account locked and your winnings held just because you can’t provide the documents.

What if the amount is already life-changing? That would be a huge regret. I don’t think any serious gambler is only aiming for small wins anyway. Most of us are hoping to hit something big enough that we can finally stop.

[DrBeer]

I don't have any better place to ask this question than here:

I was reading through some threads on the scam accusation section of the forum, and I came across sports betting policy violations of a casino, which brought me to the question running through my head.

Is it a crime or against casino policy for me to place bets on the same game at the same option at different casinos?

Like, for example, I place bet on tennis N. B. Kjaer vs M. Dodig at casino A, go-to casino B and place the same a bet same option, different amount or same amount. Does that in any way violate any sports betting policy?

To be honest, I don't quite understand the nature of the problem ?
You place bets at different casinos on different outcomes. You do this on your own,  no one is restricting you in your choices, and you're betting your own money. You have the right to place any bets you want at any site, because these are your risks and your decisions. Where is the violation here? And how could the casinos even know about your actions?

[Haunebu]

Seems like a lot of posters misunderstood what you were asking about in this thread op. You asked whether placing a bet on the same team in different sites is legal or not, correct? If so, there is no issue at all though it's easier to place the entire stake on that team in 1 site itself.

If those posters understood correctly and what you were asking is if you could place bets on both sides through multiple sites, that's fine too. However, placing bets on both sides in a single site is arbing which is usually frowned upon by those sites.