Is player protection better than a total gambling ban?

[danherbias07]

Although it looks good on paper, it might just help a little because there's always an option to jump on another gambling platform.

Now, if they can limit the gambler to just use one gambling site, then it could work. But that means all the gambling sites will work with each other by giving a warning that a certain gambler has already hit their limit. That means KYC so that they can pinpoint who it is.
It will also mean more work for them, and I highly doubt it could happen easily. But it's cool that they are trying to find ways to help the gamblers.

[AmaGold70]

This type of regulation will probably result in the improvement of the gambling industry, and I wish more countries would follow this instead of thinking about banning gambling, because gambling addiction has become rampant and already out of control.

These are the exact words that I believe could be part of the solution:

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

“In this context, tools such as deposit limits, loss limits, temporary breaks and self-exclusion mechanisms have become part of the customer journey. When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

The director explained that the objective is to build a relationship based on trust and support, free of judgement, while providing resources to help players maintain control over their gambling activity. This approach follows a trend observed in more mature regulated markets, such as the United Kingdom and other European countries, where consumer protection policies are already part of the business strategy of major operators.”

Aside from the country mentioned in this article, what other countries do you know that are following this kind of approach?

I don't really know if their is any other country practicing this consumers protection program apart from the one you mentioned here. However this practice is worthy of emulation, because many gamblers have become vulnerable to gambling addiction, and it so because the gambling sites seems not to have any concern about about how gamblers loose their money, and also how they gamble without control. It will be a very good idea if other countries of the world who welcome gambling should do. With this idea, gamblers will become very disciplined, and follow regulatory policies instead of getting addicted, and engaging in an uncontrolled gambling.

[Rockstarguy]

This type of regulation will probably result in the improvement of the gambling industry, and I wish more countries would follow this instead of thinking about banning gambling, because gambling addiction has become rampant and already out of control.

These are the exact words that I believe could be part of the solution:

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

“In this context, tools such as deposit limits, loss limits, temporary breaks and self-exclusion mechanisms have become part of the customer journey. When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

The director explained that the objective is to build a relationship based on trust and support, free of judgement, while providing resources to help players maintain control over their gambling activity. This approach follows a trend observed in more mature regulated markets, such as the United Kingdom and other European countries, where consumer protection policies are already part of the business strategy of major operators.”

Aside from the country mentioned in this article, what other countries do you know that are following this kind of approach?

This is for the consideration of gamblers: have you ever thought if this will always be in favor of gambling sites? If there are limits to deposits, losses, and breaks, it can also affect the gambling site, which will make it even more preferable if there is no gambling business just trying to protect customers.

I think a ban would be better, allowing gambling companies to go to other locations where they can do business without interruption. If the government really wants to help in reducing gambling addiction, then they need to play an important role by working on employment, because the lack of this is the reason why there is an increasing rate of gambling addiction.

[aioc]

This is only possible if all casinos are mandated to do so, but unfortunately, there will be casinos that prioritize profit over the welfare of their players, and gamblers will prioritize these casinos that respect their free will to gamble as long as they want. Many gamblers do not want to be restricted, and they want to decide on their own if they want help with their gambling activity
I agree with gambling protection that calls for an outright ban, because many governments are benefiting from the casinos' taxes, but it's better that the government and the casino industry prioritize educating people on the harm of gambling addiction.

[Satofan44]

Limits are useless, bureaucratic solutions by retards that can't think 2 steps ahead -- it is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound, yeah it works for a minute or two and soon after you die. The use of voluntary limits is entirely dependent on a person's willpower and willingness to fight and stop the addiction, and as such a person that is able to stop their addiction this way does not need your bullshit tools -- they can do it themselves with whatever is available already or without anything. The remaining group, which is the larger group, will completely ignore all of these and just continue.  If you do not have discipline in your life, having tools that can aid you in keeping discipline is useless -- you will use them for a couple of days and give up. To make matters worse, whenever you give up after trying to use the tools you have further weakened yourself and every future attempt at using such tools. Therefore, stop wasting time on useless tools and introduce blanket bans or bans of individuals where appropriate. At the very least, the systems should have automatic detection of behaviors that signal that someone looks like an addict and block them -- and with integration with other regulated platforms, block them on all of them. If you are going to regulate it, do it right -- if you are not, ban it and stop wasting time and taxpayer money with bullshit.

So what will you have to do to stop them from doing it? Oh, BAN that platform!
And now that we have the first two steps of the problem, can you see where this will lead?
Regulated platforms going bankrupt because people don't play as much on them with limits and an influx of platforms that don't respect anything, so, congratulations, you now have a far bigger problem than you had before when you still had regulated casinos in your jurisdiction!

You really need to stop making up shit across different threads, this is not true. Bans for stuff like gambling have been proven to be effective by science. Therefore, banning gambling is the most effective measure in terms of reducing the total number of addicts and players. The gambling industry does not need to exist at all if a country does not want it, it is not a life necessity -- and if you think otherwise, you are an addict yourself. The remaining people that are bypassing the bans can go fuck themselves, they are deadbeats and we can let themselves self-destruct. We do not need to protect every single retarded individual, we are protecting the largest majority that we can -- that is all that matters.

[stompix]

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It doesn't make sense to say, maybe, they should try to make these jurisdictions conjoined to function as a single unit, create and pledge on a different internal rules, also make a stricter, but globally-recognized set of regulations in a way that one gambler is entitled to 1 account at a time? Hehe, that sounds odd.

Well, that's not how things will work out!
Just like with the platforms themselves, countries will not want to join this cartel because they will feel staying outside of it will be more beneficial, as all unregulated platforms will move to them. Wait...this is what we already have with Curacao and Aruba and Anjouan  
When the rules of a coalition are hurting someone, they will simply exit, Brexit or UAE leaving OPEC are examples of this.

Regulations like this don't help, you're just rolling the problem down the hill.

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You really need to stop quoting me, as I don't read your posts anyhow!
If you need help, seek help!

[KiaKia]

This type of regulation will probably result in the improvement of the gambling industry, and I wish more countries would follow this instead of thinking about banning gambling, because gambling addiction has become rampant and already out of control.

These are the exact words that I believe could be part of the solution:

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

“In this context, tools such as deposit limits, loss limits, temporary breaks and self-exclusion mechanisms have become part of the customer journey. When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

The director explained that the objective is to build a relationship based on trust and support, free of judgement, while providing resources to help players maintain control over their gambling activity. This approach follows a trend observed in more mature regulated markets, such as the United Kingdom and other European countries, where consumer protection policies are already part of the business strategy of major operators.”

Aside from the country mentioned in this article, what other countries do you know that are following this kind of approach?

Are countries the one to make this limits available or the casino that are operating in the country? I think this is something that the gamblers needs to ask of the online casino, it has nothing to do with the government of your country.

I also don't believe that putting limits of everything will change the mind of a addicted gambler, the problem is their mindset and whatever restrictions they are put under can't hold them for that long.

VPN can be used to break these limits, using other family members KYC information can also passed these restrictions, finding another casino online is also another way, restrictions and limitations won't work.

[Pandu Geddon]

I don’t know any country in particular, but I thought player protection is supposed to be something the casino should adhere to and that should be something compulsory and not one country mandating it and other countries' players being treated less.

And I will always support strict rules being put in place that will help gamblers from getting addicted rather than banning it and preventing those who are supposed to be gambling freely from accessing it.

The problem is the implementation. Not every casino will be willing to do that, and the same goes for government oversight. Not every government will care enough to provide support that guides psychological handling. 
On paper, it might be agreed upon, but in practice, it might not go as expected.

[Crytohillss]

This type of regulation will probably result in the improvement of the gambling industry, and I wish more countries would follow this instead of thinking about banning gambling, because gambling addiction has become rampant and already out of control.

These are the exact words that I believe could be part of the solution:

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

“In this context, tools such as deposit limits, loss limits, temporary breaks and self-exclusion mechanisms have become part of the customer journey. When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

The director explained that the objective is to build a relationship based on trust and support, free of judgement, while providing resources to help players maintain control over their gambling activity. This approach follows a trend observed in more mature regulated markets, such as the United Kingdom and other European countries, where consumer protection policies are already part of the business strategy of major operators.”

Aside from the country mentioned in this article, what other countries do you know that are following this kind of approach?

Are countries the one to make this limits available or the casino that are operating in the country? I think this is something that the gamblers needs to ask of the online casino, it has nothing to do with the government of your country.

I also don't believe that putting limits of everything will change the mind of a addicted gambler, the problem is their mindset and whatever restrictions they are put under can't hold them for that long.

VPN can be used to break these limits, using other family members KYC information can also passed these restrictions, finding another casino online is also another way, restrictions and limitations won't work.

If someone is determined to keep gambling, moving to another platform is only a few clicks away so limits on a  site can only do so much., A system share across multiple casino would probably be more effective , but then you run into privacy concerns KYC requirements and the challenge of getting competing platform to co-operate. I think these tools are still worth having, they may not stop every one but they can help people who recognised their thoughts.

[Alex077]

It's almost impossible to protect a gambling addict, unless you will have to ban gamble. Although this could work for some gamblers I mean protecting them than a total gambling ban and that's if their mind is made up to stop gambling. but as for those gamblers who are addicted and haven't realize that they are addicted, the only way to protect...

I think in many cases, a complete ban should be used only as a last resort, mostly in the most serious situations. They'll eventually find another way to keep gambling. It's almost impossible to protect someone against their own will, but you can significantly reduce the risk of their addiction getting worse.
At the end of the day, everything starts with the person recognizing that they have a problem. That's usually the first and most important step toward recovery.

[Z-tight]

Self-exclusion is already an industry standard meaasure to mitigate gambling addiction, but in this case, the player has to admit that there is a problem and request exclusion from the casino. And a gambling addict may not do so. As for limits, it is easy to circumvent and players would simply find a way around it.

I understand that there is no one solution that would solve this problem and many times solving the problem is dependent on the problem gambler themselves. A total gambling ban is also not fair for non-addict gamblers who enjoy gambling.

[ZeroVinsonN]

This type of regulation will probably result in the improvement of the gambling industry, and I wish more countries would follow this instead of thinking about banning gambling, because gambling addiction has become rampant and already out of control.

These are the exact words that I believe could be part of the solution:

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

“In this context, tools such as deposit limits, loss limits, temporary breaks and self-exclusion mechanisms have become part of the customer journey. When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

The director explained that the objective is to build a relationship based on trust and support, free of judgement, while providing resources to help players maintain control over their gambling activity. This approach follows a trend observed in more mature regulated markets, such as the United Kingdom and other European countries, where consumer protection policies are already part of the business strategy of major operators.”

Aside from the country mentioned in this article, what other countries do you know that are following this kind of approach?

If they only allow casinos and gambling sites that use KYC then they will be able to control themselves factors as long as the casinos are on board, this is to ensure that if you are restricted on one account you can just jump to the next casino and start playing again anyone who's on self exclusion on one casino will automatically be self excluded on all other platforms, people will still look for ways to undermine this system if it's out in place but it's better than nothing.

[swogerino]

No matter what the country in question does the ultimate step to the solution of addiction is people themselves first acknowledging it and the second step to have a desire to not be anymore in such situation. If the gambler does not feels these things then no matter what any country does regarding player protection definitely won't help at all such gamblers to come out of addiction. I believe more in apps that I have been seeing lately that truly change the way a person think rather than true government help, simply because governments take a lot of money from gambling taxes.

[Marvelockg]

Now, if they can limit the gambler to just use one gambling site, then it could work. But that means all the gambling sites will work with each other by giving a warning that a certain gambler has already hit their limit. That means KYC so that they can pinpoint who it is.
It will also mean more work for them, and I highly doubt it could happen easily. But it's cool that they are trying to find ways to help the gamblers.

An addict operates like a running water. the more you try to stop it motion, the more it finds out alternative route and breaks it way  moving even in a more aggressive way. addiction can not be forcefully stopped because most of the addicts are adult that are capable of making informed choices on their own. the highest most gambling platform can do as a means of helping gamblers is to display warning on responsible gambling. it is now left for the gamblers to know if they should go about it in an irresponsible way that will lead to their own hurt.  If a gambler is not ready to break free from gambling addiction, not even the government or the gambling platform itself can prevent him from getting addicted.

[stadus]

And I will always support strict rules being put in place that will help gamblers from getting addicted rather than banning it and preventing those who are supposed to be gambling freely from accessing it.

Strict sounds more reasonable, but the reality is that gambling platforms are not going to respect it. They would also look for ways to make the gambler deposit more so that they can have better profits.

Even as simple as self-exclusion, there are still some platforms that don't do it properly, not to mention all of these rules that have to do with them limiting the gambler in a way that would make them not deposit and lose large amounts to them.

I guess for their business to sustain and profit, they will do everything to make the gamblers develop more interest and uncontrollable gambling urge, because that's the most effective way that they will hit their goal target and become profitable in the long run. So we can't expect that gambling platforms will abide with the strict regulations completely, otherwise that would put slowly their business into minimal profits.

Gambling addiction may be a huge concern for every country these days, but I think there's no group or association that would effectively manage this concern rather than the gambler itself. If they are not in denial, these gamblers will eventually overcome gambling addiction in the end without putting more hassles on the country's government.

[YOSHIE]

Is player protection better than a total gambling ban?

Both are not the same and the consequences will have a more severe impact on those who are addicted to gambling.
Regulations for a total ban on gambling, in my view, will actually give rise to illegal gambling market activity, which is more dangerous and perhaps difficult to control.
Protection regulations for those who are addicted to gambling will actually stress gamblers, because they think that feeling like their gambling activities are being monitored under legal supervision will trigger deep depression for gamblers.

In my understanding, the current situation is good, if gamblers want to limit or stop gambling, they themselves are better able to handle it, without any regulations.

[Africolo]

You can't cure addiction with limits!
All those players who will hit their limits will just move to a new platform that doesn't enforce those limits.

So what will you have to do to stop them from doing it? Oh, BAN that platform!
And now that we have the first two steps of the problem, can you see where this will lead?
Regulated platforms going bankrupt because people don't play as much on them with limits and an influx of platforms that don't respect anything, so, congratulations, you now have a far bigger problem than you had before when you still had regulated casinos in your jurisdiction!

You have just said the obvious truth which is, one can't cure addiction with limits or even banning the gambler from the casinos because if that's done, he or she will always look for an alternative to cure their desires to gamble and secondly no casino company will want to ban customers from gambling because of his addictiveness as they are going to loose their profits and probably might not operate anymore due to lack of customers after banning many from the board.

I think the solutions is for the players to protect themselves by sticking to their lay down budget and also having a bankroll Management that will keep them in check on how they are gambling, one thing I realized about addicts who wants to stop gambling is that they must first realize the fact that they are addicted before they can work on themselves to stop gambling excessively and stop chasing looses, so casinos won't buy the idea of banning their customers and by way creating more problems.

[coin-investor]

https://sigma.world/news/jresponsible-gambling-betting-customer-experience/

When signs of vulnerability are identified, customer support can direct users to organisations specialising in psychological support and treatment for gambling addiction.

Here in our country, we have a 24/7 help line for those who want to seek help with their addiction, but it's still up to the gamblers to take action on their addiction. Our government does not want to impose too much on the gambling industry because they don't want gamblers to turn to illegal gambling where there is no restriction on how they play.

[sompitonov]

Both are not the same and the consequences will have a more severe impact on those who are addicted to gambling.
Regulations for a total ban on gambling, in my view, will actually give rise to illegal gambling market activity, which is more dangerous and perhaps difficult to control.
Protection regulations for those who are addicted to gambling will actually stress gamblers, because they think that feeling like their gambling activities are being monitored under legal supervision will trigger deep depression for gamblers.

In my understanding, the current situation is good, if gamblers want to limit or stop gambling, they themselves are better able to handle it, without any regulations.

Of course, a complete ban is one of the worst possible solutions, because the emergence of a shadow gambling market is far worse, in my opinion. It's better to find a middle ground in gambling regulation in a given country, so that players are happy and operators can safely conduct their business without hiding and paying taxes, which will also be at an average rate. However, some players definitely need to be protected from themselves, as they can't control their addiction and are gradually ruining their lives.

[shinratensei_]

Limiting gamblers won't solve gambling addiction as well as banning the gambling too. So the only proper solution is that stricting the rules for the casino to monitor their service to ensure no minors will able to use their platform. So when an adult is doing gambling addiction, and he's getting addicted. Let him to recover by himself.
this is because neither banning or limiting will never work. The hardest thing is that changing someone's habit. The only party can solve this problem is that player itself. So treatmen and self exclusion site is already good answer for this.