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July 10, 2017, 12:38:20 AM
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He is going to have to end  the winner take all on tx fees.
Transaction fees are large enough now that the system will probably have to change. At some point transaction fees will be the majority of the reward and then the existing system becomes more like solo mining and less like pooled mining.

The likely solution will be to have the transaction fee included with the mining subsidy when the score is calculated for the share submission. This unfortunately removes the 'bonus' aspect of being a block finder though. Perhaps some mix of the two.

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July 10, 2017, 01:02:02 AM
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He is going to have to end  the winner take all on tx fees.
Transaction fees are large enough now that the system will probably have to change. At some point transaction fees will be the majority of the reward and then the existing system becomes more like solo mining and less like pooled mining.

The likely solution will be to have the transaction fee included with the mining subsidy when the score is calculated for the share submission. This unfortunately removes the 'bonus' aspect of being a block finder though. Perhaps some mix of the two.

Yeah   Maybe ⅓  to the block hitter and ⅔ to the rest based on shares.

In my  case    over the last 5 blocks  ⅔ of 1.90 =  1.33 btc.


It would still encourage  the bigger miners.  And let the small  miners to grab  some of that pie.

So  I will do what you want it is your pool.

I am still here mining away.

But  with no merged coins  and my bad luck on not hitting  one of the last five blocks.  I did hit the sixth one last July and got 0.055 btc Grin


I am having a bit of pain. About those 9.5 coins given to the last five block hitters.

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July 10, 2017, 01:42:16 AM
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I did hit the sixth one last July and got 0.055 btc Grin
The difference in the transaction fee reward is definitely noticeable from last year vs this year!

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July 10, 2017, 03:06:47 AM
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I did hit the sixth one last July and got 0.055 btc Grin
The difference in the transaction fee reward is definitely noticeable from last year vs this year!

Certainly is killing me to see it happen.
  
But I am going to mine here.

What I will do is  wait  till after the fork  to decide how much to put in here via renting.

And I am sure the top guy will pop another block. Just to rub in some more salt.

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July 13, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
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I was looking at my mmpool mining and I see I have syscoin





Obfuscated Name   c932f3ed


syscoin   50.65845937




can you put this into my sys coin address at polinex?


SUaW7DRPt72Vu2LjdLzifhyWKS423tvT7v

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July 15, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
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nh have changed the minimum difficulty to 2^14-1. That's why all the inactive or partially active orders are now marked as "Dead" most of the time, and nh deletes them after a while.
I already tried changing my username to "<username>+32768". The mining pool's overall hashrate then looks correct but my hashrate is zero and the shares don't turn up in my statistics. What is the correct way of setting the initial difficulty?
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July 15, 2017, 07:25:23 PM
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nh have changed the minimum difficulty to 2^14-1. That's why all the inactive or partially active orders are now marked as "Dead" most of the time, and nh deletes them after a while.
I already tried changing my username to "<username>+32768". The mining pool's overall hashrate then looks correct but my hashrate is zero and the shares don't turn up in my statistics. What is the correct way of setting the initial difficulty?

I know you are my  rival

 but I will do a test to see what is up.

I did 3 orders

2 are too low
1 is high enough

So what is happening wrong for you?

are the smaller inactive timing out?


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July 15, 2017, 07:48:37 PM
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So  phil your low orders  are now at .2867

They show dead   


 S #3396843   0.2867   2.00   0   0.0000
 S #3396837   0.2867   2.00   0   0.0000



 but sometimes   they go live and then drop out to  dead.
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July 15, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
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So  phil your low orders  are now at .2867

They show dead   


 S #3396843   0.2867   2.00   0   0.0000
 S #3396837   0.2867   2.00   0   0.0000



 but sometimes   they go live and then drop out to  dead.

yeah looks like I am having same issue as cassini

this means  those 2  orders may drop out at anytime costing fees of 0.0001 + 0.0001

so  I am not sure  if nicehash can fix it or mmpool can do it.

but a fix would be nice.

So far  it is 35 minutes and they have not dropped off.  3:20  was the start time.

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July 15, 2017, 10:52:26 PM
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nh have changed the minimum difficulty to 2^14-1. That's why all the inactive or partially active orders are now marked as "Dead" most of the time, and nh deletes them after a while.
I already tried changing my username to "<username>+32768". The mining pool's overall hashrate then looks correct but my hashrate is zero and the shares don't turn up in my statistics. What is the correct way of setting the initial difficulty?
Definitely don't change your username - unless that is the exact username you registered. Otherwise the hashes get accepted by the pool but assigned to no one. The stratum protocol has a way for the miner to set a suggested difficulty but I guess with nicehash that isn't possible. I can bump up the initial difficulty if it's useful.

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July 15, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
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nh have changed the minimum difficulty to 2^14-1.
I've changed the pools initial difficulty to be 2^14. That should hopefully resolve the issue with nicehash.

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July 16, 2017, 01:31:58 PM
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nh have changed the minimum difficulty to 2^14-1.
I've changed the pools initial difficulty to be 2^14. That should hopefully resolve the issue with nicehash.

@ cassini  it is good that you mentioned the problem

@mmpool
So far the fix seems to have worked.


I see the order below  is staying active.


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August 18, 2017, 01:43:23 PM
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small question about the payout specs.  I just have a small antminer aimed there which barely got under the
payout threshold last block.  I noticed my payout was a bit more than the DGM that I had earned, and was wondering
why.  Is that because of the shares paying out some TX amount?
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August 19, 2017, 01:35:16 PM
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small question about the payout specs.  I just have a small antminer aimed there which barely got under the
payout threshold last block.  I noticed my payout was a bit more than the DGM that I had earned, and was wondering
why.  Is that because of the shares paying out some TX amount?
The DGM shown in the user stats is an estimate. It probably underestimated in your case and at the time of the block solve you were entitled to more of a share.

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September 10, 2017, 12:13:57 PM
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@mmpool
So far the fix seems to have worked.
Looks like the fix has solved the main issue but there is still a minor incompatibility problem. nh frequently tries to establish additional bridges and occasionally fails to get it over the "min. working difficulty" of 65535. We still have to pay for the failed connections. According to the Order Details page the Delta value is between -1 % and -3 % all the time (Delta: "difference between measured pool speed and paying speed.")

Meanwhile I had opened a ticket at nh. The response was as follows:
... Minimal difficulty is enough so the order is alive, but as soon as it gets some miners, pool needs to reach working difficulty or above. If not, the order will be disconnected. We suggest to simply use pools that never use difficulty below 65536 and you will not have issues with that.

Furthermore, the Pool Verificator at https://old.nicehash.com/poolver.jsp?a=1&l=0
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Received mining.set_difficulty... OK: difficulty=16384
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Warning: Selected pool did not request min or higher working diff: 65535
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September 10, 2017, 03:27:55 PM
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@mmpool
So far the fix seems to have worked.
Looks like the fix has solved the main issue but there is still a minor incompatibility problem. nh frequently tries to establish additional bridges and occasionally fails to get it over the "min. working difficulty" of 65535. We still have to pay for the failed connections. According to the Order Details page the Delta value is between -1 % and -3 % all the time (Delta: "difference between measured pool speed and paying speed.")

Meanwhile I had opened a ticket at nh. The response was as follows:
... Minimal difficulty is enough so the order is alive, but as soon as it gets some miners, pool needs to reach working difficulty or above. If not, the order will be disconnected. We suggest to simply use pools that never use difficulty below 65536 and you will not have issues with that.

Furthermore, the Pool Verificator at https://old.nicehash.com/poolver.jsp?a=1&l=0
comes up with:
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Received mining.set_difficulty... OK: difficulty=16384
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Warning: Selected pool did not request min or higher working diff: 65535

I get this  using usa server   so  does a diff setting of 66000 fix it?





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September 11, 2017, 08:09:12 AM
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Block  Cool
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September 11, 2017, 10:41:59 AM
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Looks like the fix has solved the main issue but there is still a minor incompatibility problem. nh frequently tries to establish additional bridges and occasionally fails to get it over the "min. working difficulty" of 65535. We still have to pay for the failed connections. According to the Order Details page the Delta value is between -1 % and -3 % all the time (Delta: "difference between measured pool speed and paying speed.")
So min difficulty requires is 65535? I can set it to that if that's the solution.

In other news, block found! It is being processed and payout will occur soon.

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September 11, 2017, 11:03:22 AM
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So min difficulty requires is 65535? I can set it to that if that's the solution.
I've restarted the pool with difficulty set to a min of 65536.

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September 11, 2017, 01:39:36 PM
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https://blockchain.info/block-height/484629


1.7 in fees


I was not mining anything heavy duty  at the time so it most likely was someone else.


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