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I will publish the final list of approved members to review Zeto on this Saturday. Thanks for your patience.

Any update on this, Royse?

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Thanks everyone for your patience. Following users received $90 to their bitcoin account:
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Note: WeLive Crypto are working on improving their feedback system and they informed me that any review that is positive and negative - without a valid verification information, they will remove it soon. So do not post a Positive or Negative review without proper verification information. This does not applicable to neutral review.

Special mention to user Cinexa for the review on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5590459.msg67023253#msg67023253
Thank you very much @Cinexa

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August 27, 2026, 03:27:37 PM
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Just to reconfirm. So the review should only be posted on WeLive Crypto only or also on the bitcointalk thread about the site?
Just asking because you mentioned screenshots but in the feedback form I don't see a picture upload (maybe it works only via picture upload url?) . Thanks in advance for the info.

And thanks for accepting me of course! Appreciate it!

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August 27, 2026, 04:30:17 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2026, 04:52:13 PM by PX-Z
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Swap ID: 76b.....2e3

So I tried the platform.

First, was sending btc to the wallet/address provided in Zeto wallet tab. I wait until it got 1 confirmation before proceding since my previous swap didn't go through when trying with pending btc tx, just for testing...

One thing about bitcoin refund address field is i deliberately entered an invalid/random bc1q address, and Zeto rejected it with "daemon error (HTTP 400): bad Bitcoin refund address: base8 error." This at least showed that the refund address wasn't simply being accepted without validation. I would consider this a useful safety check, although the error message itself isn't particularly user-friendly. An "Incorrect refund wallet address" or similar warning is at least considerable.


I also downloaded the Zeto refund kit provided for the swap. This was interesting actually because it gives the transaction information, refund instructions/recovery data related to the swap rather than simply requiring them to trust the website to return their funds if something goes wrong. It's my first time seeing such way for swaps/exchange process refunds. Although i never tried the steps inside since its not necessary.

The actual swap

After the bitcoin was sent to the wallet, the swap progressed through the following stages:

- Locking your Bitcoin
- Maker locks the Monero
- Maker redeems the Bitcoin
- Redeeming your Monero

Locking bitcoin just needs 1 confirmation. On monero side required 10 confirmations before proceeding which is why it has at least 20 minutes (common) of waiting for confirmation time. The entire process took over 30 minutes in my case.
I wouldn't consider that particularly surprising for an atomic btc/xmr swap because the process depends on blockchain confirmations and the protocol's safety conditions.

The swap was completed successfully and the xmr was sent to my wallet.
One thing i couldn't accurately measure was the exact monero confirmation time because my cake wallet was still syncing after the swap had already completed.



If i may add about the errors on the console logs about "Content-Security-Policy", it should be fixed. If you want to keep CF insights/analytics, allow CF's script origin in your CSP like "Content-Security-Policy: script-src 'self' 'wasm-unsafe-eval' https://static.cloudflareinsights.com;". Or since beacon.min.js is automatically added, you can just disabled that feature.
Also, your CSP has "script-src 'self' 'wasm-unsafe-eval'" but you use inline script <script> which obviously will show an error. Either remove the inline script or remove the CSP.



Overall: the experience was surprisingly smooth. The process followed the expected and usual atomic swap stages. The main downside is that it isn't instant, well who cares if you use xmr pairs, other platforms uses 10 confirmation time as well. What i liked most was that the process was transparent, i could see the swap progressing through each stage.

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SwapID: dbbfxxxxxxxx9c41d

Just fyi, this was my first attempt using an Android device, with no specific privacy settings applied.

It starts with creating a wallet (since it's required); like most web wallets, there’s nothing particularly special about it. I simply recommend disconnecting from the internet while generating the seed phrase, writing down the passphrase, and testing the wallet recovery process. A plus for their wallet is the implementation of a fresh/change deposit address for every transaction.

First attempt with this setup at 10:03 (my local time):
Used maximum balance (~$22 BTC)
Selected Tor (adjusted the minimum exchangeable amount).

The swap process began
after signing and locking.
Upon downloading the refund kit,—
  

—I checked mempool.space and saw the transfer fee
for this stage was 1000 sat/vB (wow—couldn't that
be reduced to at least 100 sat/vB?That would still secure
priority block inclusion given current network conditions)
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The settlement process took nearly 25 minutes until I received
$17 XMR in my wallet at 10:42 (still within my expectations).
Total fees, including the deposit to the wallet,
came to $5,close to the initial estimated net return (-20.3%).


If users could manually set the fee for the initial step with a warning text regarding fee limits (e.g., a minimum of 5x the current priority fee), they could save on costs for smaller exchange amounts. Alternatively, the system could offer flexible fee options.

My plus points:
  • Intuitive, non-technical friendly interface
  • Use of change addresses for new deposits and refunds
  • Standard settlement time; the system tracks confirmation counts in real-time (faster than block explorers)
  • I am still curious about the refund kit file. It seems easier to claim a refund compared to the methods used by other exchangers.
Minus point: Bitcoin locking fee is non-adjustable (1000 sat/vB)

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Swap 89017e9f…bf17 — 0.00064 BTC → ≈ 0.102078 XMR



I used Zeto on the Brave browser. First, I opened Wallet and clicked on Create a new wallet. I saved the 12 words the platform gave me and entered an encryption password. This gave me a self-custodial BIP84 wallet. I then deposited the Bitcoin that I wanted to exchange for XMR.



Then, I entered the swap details, picked a Maker, and entered the Monero receive address and Bitcoin refund address. I then agreed to the Terms of Use and clicked Start Swap.

Like some of the other reviewers, I also got "Swap stopped. Suspended, or this attempt failed. No funds have moved — you can start again." about five times within a short period. All of them ended with the statuss "Aborted" and the final state "Released."

From the refund kit, all the records show that no XMR was locked.

I also tried different Makers, including one through the Tor network and others through the web endpoint whaleswap.club. Finally, I tried another Maker that supports Tor and reduced the amount I wanted to exchange, so there was enough left to cover the fees.

Here is what happened next:



As you can see, after I clicked "Sign & Lock BTC" the swap started, and the Bitcoin started locking. While this was happening, I clicked "Download refund kit."



The images show the Monero Locking Progress status showing that the Maker has started locking the Monero.





As shown below, the swap is now complete, and I received the XMR I was expecting in my Atomic Wallet.





The swap was marked as "Completed" in Swap History.




My Experience: I had a good experience with the platform and found it really easy to use. After choosing a Maker through the Tor network and leaving enough room for the fees, the swap went through quickly and the funds arrived safely in my wallet.

Suggestions: The latest updates from the platform's representative here seem to have fixed most of the issues I saw in the earlier reviews..

It would be great if a Light Mode option was added. A 24/7 live chat would also be nice.

You could also add a "Verify PGP Letter" option to help prevent impersonation. It would also be beneficial to list the platform on service monitoring such as Bitlist.co.

Also, you could consider adding a dedicated section within the platform for announcements or important updates, alongside a FAQ section, so users can easily stay informed about important updates and common questions.

Also, It would also be nice to enable XMR-to-Bitcoin swaps and add support for more more privacy coins, alongside providing access to the platform through the Tor network via an official .onion address.

During a swap the coordinator does hold that swap's own protocol keys; the protocol requires it. That is why you can download pre-signed cancel, refund and Monero redeem transactions at any point and finish or recover from any wallet without us.

If there is no tracking, but your server keeps the protocol keys during the swap and temporarily logs the IP address, how can I know that you can't link my IP to the swap if both go through your server at the same time?

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Last edit: August 31, 2026, 05:31:38 AM by bitbollo
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Swap c221bb65…2881 — [we live in crypto feedback just posted]

GENERAL
The overall experience has been positive, see at the end of the review pro/cons/suggestions.
Sincerely I would recommend as service to an user confident with btc. No this would be not the easiest website for a newbie of crypto.

I am not a real expert of coins in general and this was the first time I was using XMR (!) and a swap with it(!).
However testing the platform I had spent few hours to understand how to perform it in an efficient way Roll Eyes
It's not just matter of "rate of exchange" there is also the trust that rely on platforms, creating wallet, sending funds, waiting confirmations, sending it back...
If these XMR should be sent in a specific timeframe (or a short time frame) it would be required a kind of setup.
I was not able to complete swap at first approach.

GUI
The homepage by itself it looks clear and easy to use.
I would give more emphasis on "wallet creation" since this is a basic step for using the swap.
The procedure for creating the wallet has been easy and personally I have appreciated it.  

Internal Wallet
As mentioned before this was an easy procedure to complete. Access and usage have not been tested.

SWAP OPTIONS
Here I had some issues since the "automatic" options seems to fail and was not able to complete if I was choosing the "full refund only" and "proven only" option. The swap doesn't go for it despite trying many times Sad




I was just closing the page and trying again after few hours...Roll Eyes
anyway it seems that the previous combo of options have restricted the chance of completing the swap + an impressive spike of commision/rate (it should a slippage of 20% Sad )
This needs to be somewhat explained/fixed. Or maybe it could just take it easier.
As honest reviewer (and as a potential customer) I would try to add some "best rate" or "quick option" for completing this procedure.
Trying to find an option that allow to save on btc/fees (proven only + full refund only) has delayed the swap.

I was not expected to have to "sign & lock btc" for completing the swap. My bad Sad but I would see as reasonable to have some disclaimer about it... due the previous approach failed I was not checking the page. considering a timeframe of 4 hours this page would just not see anymore.

Exchange Rate
I have seen an impressive change due the option that I have choosed.
Probably this was also related to my in-experience with such swap in XMR but I was spending much more in commission as required (anyway my mistake on options).
Again, this could be kept easy in a certain way - likewise best rate / exchange in xx minutes...

PRO
- easy way to exchange/swap to use with the "basic" options.
- good rate / honest fees for transactions

CONS
- advanced options can delay transacions
- lock btc/create a wallet is not my best setup (and requires more time and fees)

Suggestions
It would be great to have an easy swap without any btc deposit/wallet.
It would be fine in a certain way also if this is an expensive option for customers.
Bringing these fees on 5-10% would be somewhat reasonable (considering the service and the quality offered).
Why not offering also an option to swap xmr back to btc Roll Eyes ? At this point I would try to keep both swap possible.

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Before using it, I expected something like most exchanges: enter a receiving address, send funds, and wait. I was surprised to find that ZETO requires you to create a wallet directly in the browser. At first, this felt like an extra step, but after learning how the protocol works, it made more sense since the browser wallet participates directly in the atomic swap and refund process.

Things I liked immediately:
  • Dark mode / light mode support (The dark mode was particularly appreciated since it's easier on my eyes lol)
  • Clean and modern interface
  • Clear explanations about how the swap process works
  • No account registration required



Wallet Setup

The onboarding process was straightforward:
1. Generate seed phrase
2. Write down the backup words
3. Verify the backup
4. Create a password



The entire process was simple enough even for someone not familiar with atomic swaps/creating wallets in general.

After funding the wallet, I kept checking whether my transaction had confirmed.

Every time I refreshed the browser page, I was asked to enter my password again.

I'm not sure if this is expected behavior or related to my browser settings, but it became slightly annoying because I was refreshing frequently while waiting for confirmations.

This might be a good area for improvement, perhaps with an optional session timeout setting.



Starting the Swap

One feature I immediately liked was the "Use my wallet" option. Since the funds are already in the browser wallet, refunding back to the same wallet becomes seamless. This is where the browser wallet design beats simply entering external addresses.

First Attempt

Swap ID: 79fd5...331

The swap progressed through the setup phase, but it felt like it was taking quite a while.



After waiting, the swap eventually stopped and failed.



This was disappointing, but to be fair, atomic swaps are significantly more complex than ordinary exchange transactions.

I started a new swap.

Second Attempt

Swap ID: 7aba7...8c2

The second attempt was noticeably faster.

After a short wait, I received a confirmation prompt.



After I confirmed, the process continued, and my BTC was locked into the swap contract.





Refund Kit Feature

As soon as BTC was locked, ZETO automatically offered a downloadable text file containing refund information (This is something new to me). This gave me extra confidence because I wasn't relying entirely on the website staying online. Knowing there is a recovery path if something goes wrong is reassuring, especially when dealing with atomic swaps.



Conclusion

As someone accustomed to traditional exchanges, the workflow initially felt more complicated because of the browser wallet requirement. However, after going through the process, I understood why it exists and how it enables refunds and non-custodial atomic swaps. The concept is excellent. Most of my feedback is focused on usability rather than the swap protocol itself. This feels more like a tool for people who prioritize self-custody and privacy over maximum convenience.

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MY REVIEW

1. User Interface; so far I like the entirety of the user interface it is smooth light weight and I can alternate easily between light and dark mode easily. The choice of font generally is very ok. To add to this the features are actually arranged in a simple array which is fine.

2. Swap clarity; Well the whole operation of the entire swap process is fine and transparent. However I think it is very important to clarify the minimum amount possible for a successful swap regardless of the fact that there are a variety of makers to choose from it would help prevent disappointment regarding smaller amounts.

3. Fees and confirmation speed; For deposits it's a quick responding site and fees for withdrawal are very ok just close to withdrawing from my regular wallet software. The swap fees are good for some makers but some charge up to 17% especially for smaller amounts and I think they should try and optimise that too.

4. Transparency and process monitoring; Every step of the swap is constantly being communicated with the user and the transparency of how they handle their swap is a good one.

5. Maker choice; if possible I'm suggesting a better optimization for the automatic maker selector so swaps do not take to long as per trial and error of different makers before a suitable one is selected. It is going to greatly improve swap time especially since monero confirmations are literally the longest in the whole vswap process.

6. Wallet custody; the idea of being able to have your seed regardless is a nice one but I'll prefer the choice of a JSON file or not. Browsers can be compromised easily and I think having seeds written as an option too and used as easy as the JSON file would also be a nice idea.



MY SWAP PROCESS





In conclusion I suggest a faster maker selection and a more efficient one as that was the major reason for multiple number of failed requests I had. I compared with other swaps and zeto was actually faster. Also makers that accept smaller amounts should consider dropping their fees because the major competition in Dex like these is trust, privacy and speed.

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August 31, 2026, 07:00:26 PM
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@Mia Chloe, bitbollo, albon, PX-Z, RGBTC, crwth
Thanks for posting your reviews. However I am missing your feedback on WeLive Crypto Zeto Listing. Can you provide me the WeLive Crypto Feedback URL please?

Cheers,

@AHOYBRAUSE
A detailed review on this topic. On WeLive Crypto, a Feedback about their service. Please don't forget to provide the WeLive Crypto Feedback URL.

Hello i review site is it possible to do review ?? please let me know
Unfortunately, the application time expired for you. By the way, you are free to leave a feedback about their service on WeLive Crypto, if you like.

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August 31, 2026, 07:43:33 PM
Last edit: September 01, 2026, 08:29:53 AM by examplens
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Here is my review of the zeto.cash platform

Maybe I will start from the end, but first I will summarise the complete user experience.

I really have no objection to the interface itself. Everything is quite clear and logical, even someone who does not have much experience will not have any difficulties when using zeto.cash. Mostly, everything is sufficiently explained, and it is clear at all times which part of the swap process I am in and which next steps are necessary for the further process
The only moment where I may not have managed to capture everything was the moment after confirmation and before the refund kit was generated. Everything flashed for a moment, maybe I lost a little time because I was taking screenshots. I certainly didn't follow that detail very well.


So I can freely summarise, the design and functionality are at a fairly good level.

Now, to deal with other things and potential shortcomings, I believe it is more useful for the Zeto team.

First, regarding the wallet application. An eight-character password as a minimum is really not enough today. I believe that a minimum of 12 characters or a passphrase is recommended, with a mandatory built-in password-strength estimator as a must.
Also, the wallet does not have too many options, so it would be recommended to integrate support for another major wallet or even a hardware wallet.

Claim:
Quote
Swaps are funded and signed in this browser — nobody else ever holds your Bitcoin.
The entire swap protocol is executed server-side on the api.zeto.cash backend, not in the browser. Therefore, the above claim could be considered incorrect.
The browser is actually a "remote signer": a server via WebSocket (wss://api.zeto.cash/.../events), so 'trustless' or 'serverless execution' It can't be true. This is not a criticism of the way it works, but of how it is presented.


What I find in the browser log:

The browser sends information to a third party, i.e. blockstream.info, every 1-2 minutes.
Blockstream receives: the user's IP address, all derived wallet addresses, time and frequency of checks, the platform that collects them (Origin) https://zeto.cash, browser and platform metadata.

Each call goes to a different, unique BTC address, which means that the wallet internally rotates the addresses when checking the balance. However, all these calls, to all these different addresses, are sent by the same browser from the same IP address in the same session, Blockstream (or anyone who intercepts/logs on their side) can trivially connect all these addresses as belonging to the same user

For a service aimed at BTC/XMR and privacy users, this is a serious drawback. No-KYC does not solve the problem of network and blockchain correlation.



Code:
"request": {
          "method": "GET",
          "url": "https://blockstream.info/api/address/bc1qqx0y4y2nlvn3l4ck5ppw0uhr0ltjnd07653ugr",
          "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1",
          "headers": [
            {
              "name": "Accept",
              "value": "*/*"
            },
            {
              "name": "Accept-Encoding",
              "value": "gzip, deflate, br, zstd"
            },
            {
              "name": "Accept-Language",
              "value": "en-US,en;q=0.9"
            },
            {
              "name": "Connection",
              "value": "keep-alive"
            },
            {
              "name": "Host",
              "value": "blockstream.info"
            },
            {
              "name": "Origin",
              "value": "https://zeto.cash"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Dest",
              "value": "empty"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Mode",
              "value": "cors"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Site",
              "value": "cross-site"
            },
            {
              "name": "User-Agent",
              "value": "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/151.0.0.0 Safari/537.36"
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua",
              "value": "\"Not=A?Brand\";v=\"99\", \"Google Chrome\";v=\"151\", \"Chromium\";v=\"151\""
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua-mobile",
              "value": "?0"
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua-platform",
              "value": "\"Windows\""


Correct me if I'm wrong here.
The REST API authenticates requests exclusively through the sessionId, which is embedded directly in the URL path (/s/<sessionId>/...), without any additional credentials (no authorisation header, no cookie, no request signature).
If someone malicious gets into the possession of the path, they will not be able to sign the transactions, but they will be able to monitor them, spam, suspend the session, download the refund kit...
It seems to me that this could be an oversight. I would definitely look for a solution for this.

Code:
"request": {
          "method": "GET",
          "url": "wss://api.zeto.cash/s/19735176e2eccd16/events?token=2b87b8f00e01a67b3a3334ce6406e392",
          "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1",
          "headers": [
            {
....


As for the result of the order itself, it corresponds closely, 100%, to the conditions mentioned everywhere.
However, the final result is somewhat different
(The third picture is the offer at that moment on the third service.)

, ,

How everything looks in numbers:
(Kraken price at the time of the swap):
Kraken XMRXBT pair: price ~0.006607-0.006644 BTC for 1 XMR (bid/ask/last)
Fair value for 0.00043907 BTC at Kraken rate: ~ 0.0663-0.0665 XMR

What I actually got:
Gross amount given by the maker: xmr_receive_amount = 0.055669595933 XMR
Net to my wallet (after 0.7% zeto coordinator fee): 0.993 × 0.055669595933 = 0.055280685 XMR - exactly matches what I expect to receive
Finally, I got 0.055152645881 XMR

Total effective spread: ~16.6-17%, broken down into:

~16.0% = maker's margin built into the exchange rate, offered by the maker (quote), which is not shown anywhere as a "fee", it is the pure difference between the Kraken market price and the price at which the maker agreed to perform the swap.
~0.7% = declared "Zeto coordinator fee"
~0.23% = additional, unexplained loss (probably Monero network fee, but not shown to the user in advance)

The declared 0.7% is exactly as much as it says, but it represents only a small part of the real cost. Over 95% of the total spread (16.3 out of a total of 17%) comes from the maker's margin built into the rate itself, not from Zeto's fee.

I believe that 16% is too high a fee rate

note: I would reserve the right to supplement this review if I recognise something else that I think is important.

edit: my new feedback on welivecrypto is on pending.

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August 31, 2026, 10:32:50 PM
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Thanks for posting your reviews. However I am missing your feedback on WeLive Crypto Zeto Listing. Can you provide me the WeLive Crypto Feedback URL please?

Cheers,
Thanks too for updating the spreadsheet and for working with the reviewers.

I wrote my feedback for the WeLive Crypto Zeto Listing two weeks ago. I also submitted a positive rating based on my experience using the Zeto platform. I also provided proof such as the order ID/transaction ID and a screenshot to verify my order, so my review would follow their guidelines.

After I sent all of this, they thanked me and confirmed that it was based on my real experience. They then approved it and published it.

Here is the link to my feedback:
https://welivecrypto.com/reviews/8

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Can you provide me the WeLive Crypto Feedback URL please?
https://welivecrypto.com/reviews/15
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Here is my review of the zeto.cash platform

Maybe I will start from the end, but first I will summarise the complete user experience.

I really have no objection to the interface itself. Everything is quite clear and logical, even someone who does not have much experience will not have any difficulties when using zeto.cash. Mostly, everything is sufficiently explained, and it is clear at all times which part of the swap process I am in and which next steps are necessary for the further process
The only moment where I may not have managed to capture everything was the moment after confirmation and before the refund kit was generated. Everything flashed for a moment, maybe I lost a little time because I was taking screenshots. I certainly didn't follow that detail very well.


So I can freely summarise, the design and functionality are at a fairly good level.

Now, to deal with other things and potential shortcomings, I believe it is more useful for the Zeto team.

First, regarding the wallet application. An eight-character password as a minimum is really not enough today. I believe that a minimum of 12 characters or a passphrase is recommended, with a mandatory built-in password-strength estimator as a must.
Also, the wallet does not have too many options, so it would be recommended to integrate support for another major wallet or even a hardware wallet.

Claim:
Quote
Swaps are funded and signed in this browser — nobody else ever holds your Bitcoin.
The entire swap protocol is executed server-side on the api.zeto.cash backend, not in the browser. Therefore, the above claim could be considered incorrect.
The browser is actually a "remote signer": a server via WebSocket (wss://api.zeto.cash/.../events), so 'trustless' or 'serverless execution' It can't be true. This is not a criticism of the way it works, but of how it is presented.


What I find in the browser log:

The browser sends information to a third party, i.e. blockstream.info, every 1-2 minutes.
Blockstream receives: the user's IP address, all derived wallet addresses, time and frequency of checks, the platform that collects them (Origin) https://zeto.cash, browser and platform metadata.

Each call goes to a different, unique BTC address, which means that the wallet internally rotates the addresses when checking the balance. However, all these calls, to all these different addresses, are sent by the same browser from the same IP address in the same session, Blockstream (or anyone who intercepts/logs on their side) can trivially connect all these addresses as belonging to the same user

For a service aimed at BTC/XMR and privacy users, this is a serious drawback. No-KYC does not solve the problem of network and blockchain correlation.



Code:
"request": {
          "method": "GET",
          "url": "https://blockstream.info/api/address/bc1qqx0y4y2nlvn3l4ck5ppw0uhr0ltjnd07653ugr",
          "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1",
          "headers": [
            {
              "name": "Accept",
              "value": "*/*"
            },
            {
              "name": "Accept-Encoding",
              "value": "gzip, deflate, br, zstd"
            },
            {
              "name": "Accept-Language",
              "value": "en-US,en;q=0.9"
            },
            {
              "name": "Connection",
              "value": "keep-alive"
            },
            {
              "name": "Host",
              "value": "blockstream.info"
            },
            {
              "name": "Origin",
              "value": "https://zeto.cash"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Dest",
              "value": "empty"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Mode",
              "value": "cors"
            },
            {
              "name": "Sec-Fetch-Site",
              "value": "cross-site"
            },
            {
              "name": "User-Agent",
              "value": "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/151.0.0.0 Safari/537.36"
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua",
              "value": "\"Not=A?Brand\";v=\"99\", \"Google Chrome\";v=\"151\", \"Chromium\";v=\"151\""
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua-mobile",
              "value": "?0"
            },
            {
              "name": "sec-ch-ua-platform",
              "value": "\"Windows\""


Correct me if I'm wrong here.
The REST API authenticates requests exclusively through the sessionId, which is embedded directly in the URL path (/s/<sessionId>/...), without any additional credentials (no authorisation header, no cookie, no request signature).
If someone malicious gets into the possession of the path, they will not be able to sign the transactions, but they will be able to monitor them, spam, suspend the session, download the refund kit...
It seems to me that this could be an oversight. I would definitely look for a solution for this.

Code:
"request": {
          "method": "GET",
          "url": "wss://api.zeto.cash/s/19735176e2eccd16/events?token=2b87b8f00e01a67b3a3334ce6406e392",
          "httpVersion": "HTTP/1.1",
          "headers": [
            {
....


As for the result of the order itself, it corresponds closely, 100%, to the conditions mentioned everywhere.
However, the final result is somewhat different
(The third picture is the offer at that moment on the third service.)

, ,

How everything looks in numbers:
(Kraken price at the time of the swap):
Kraken XMRXBT pair: price ~0.006607-0.006644 BTC for 1 XMR (bid/ask/last)
Fair value for 0.00043907 BTC at Kraken rate: ~ 0.0663-0.0665 XMR

What I actually got:
Gross amount given by the maker: xmr_receive_amount = 0.055669595933 XMR
Net to my wallet (after 0.7% zeto coordinator fee): 0.993 × 0.055669595933 = 0.055280685 XMR - exactly matches what I expect to receive
Finally, I got 0.055152645881 XMR

Total effective spread: ~16.6-17%, broken down into:

~16.0% = maker's margin built into the exchange rate, offered by the maker (quote), which is not shown anywhere as a "fee", it is the pure difference between the Kraken market price and the price at which the maker agreed to perform the swap.
~0.7% = declared "Zeto coordinator fee"
~0.23% = additional, unexplained loss (probably Monero network fee, but not shown to the user in advance)

The declared 0.7% is exactly as much as it says, but it represents only a small part of the real cost. Over 95% of the total spread (16.3 out of a total of 17%) comes from the maker's margin built into the rate itself, not from Zeto's fee.

I believe that 16% is too high a fee rate

note: I would reserve the right to supplement this review if I recognise something else that I think is important.

edit: my new feedback on welivecrypto is on pending.

Thanks for this review, it is the most useful one of the campaign: you read the network logs, and most of what you found was real. Point by point.

Quote from: examplens
The REST API authenticates requests exclusively through the sessionId, which is embedded directly in the URL path (/s/<sessionId>/...), without any additional credentials

Half right. The REST API has always required an Authorization: Bearer header on every route; the sessionId in the path is routing only, and without the header everything returns 401. But the /events WebSocket was worse than you described: browsers cannot set headers on a WebSocket upgrade, so the full bearer token rode in its query string, visible to every access log along the way. You were right that it needed a solution.

Fixed and deployed: the token now travels in the Sec-WebSocket-Protocol header instead. The URL carries only the session id, which grants nothing by itself. Verifiable in devtools: no more ?token= on the events URL.

Quote from: examplens
The browser sends information to a third party, i.e. blockstream.info [...] Blockstream (or anyone who intercepts/logs on their side) can trivially connect all these addresses as belonging to the same user

Agreed, no defense. A light wallet has to ask somebody about its addresses, so we made the somebody your choice. Wallet page, Settings, Blockchain data source: public servers (default), through the zeto server (explorers then see one shared IP, and our server sees the addresses instead, the trade-off is printed in the UI), or your own Esplora endpoint, used exclusively with no silent fallback if your node is down.

Quote from: examplens
The browser is actually a "remote signer"

Fair description, and the docs say the same: the engine runs server-side, the browser holds the keys, signs locally, and checks every refund path pays your address before signing. The claim you quoted is accurate on custody, but you are right that it can be read as "the whole swap runs in the browser". We are sharpening that wording.

Quote from: examplens
An eight-character password as a minimum is really not enough today.

Agreed and done: 12 minimum for new wallets, with a strength estimator that discounts repeats, sequences and doubled passwords. Hardware wallet support is a bigger project, but on the list.

On the numbers: your breakdown is exactly right. The 0.7% is ours, matched to the satoshi. The ~16% is the maker's own quoted rate, not a fee we take or hide; margins on a ~0.0004 BTC swap are brutal because makers carry fixed costs per swap, and larger amounts get materially better quotes. The ~0.23% matches the Monero network fee on the payout transaction.

One gentle pushback: the confirmation screen does show this, both the maker's rate versus the live market rate and your net receive versus market, plus a rate protection option that auto-declines quotes above your chosen percent over market. Either you swapped before that shipped, or the price feed was down at that moment (it then says "market rate unavailable"). If you re-test and it does not show, that is a bug we want to hear about.

Also noted: the moment between confirming and the refund kit appearing went by too fast to follow. Fair, we will smooth that transition so each step stays readable.

If you do re-test, we would genuinely like to hear what you find.
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my review appears "pending" please let me know... (I can send a screenshot or post here too).

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my review appears "pending" please let me know... (I can send a screenshot or post here too).

Please with your username there too. @Mia Chloe, I am missing your WeLive Crypto feedback too.

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September 02, 2026, 09:58:06 AM
 #78

here we go https://welivecrypto.com/reviews/25
username: feliciano

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September 02, 2026, 10:31:47 AM
Last edit: September 05, 2026, 05:35:51 AM by Mia Chloe
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Please with your username there too. @Mia Chloe, I am missing your WeLive Crypto feedback too.
https://welivecrypto.com/reviews/29
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I just made another review seems the link stopped working and the old one was deleted.

I'll update the thread once it is no longer pending.
I've been unable to access the site hence the delay.

Edit: new review added

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September 07, 2026, 04:30:27 PM
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Here is mine approved 3 days ago

https://welivecrypto.com/reviews/33

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