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September 18, 2026, 01:56:38 AM
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anonymous delivery option
Someone must know the link between what you ordered and your address. How would the delivery company not know where the packages came from?
If want to be anonymous, it's best to buy hardware wallets at store and with cash. At least no trace online but you will still come to a store and buy a hardware wallet.

It's similar to use cash to buy bitcoin.
Give them cash and they give you bitcoin.
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The second method for acquiring non-KYC bitcoin is to make a peer-to-peer purchase. This can be done in real life through an in-person exchange with someone you know. Give them cash and they give you bitcoin. This method comes with some personal security risk since in-person purchases sometimes lead to in-person attacks.

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Protect your purchases

Cash is still the king of financial privacy, though it’s less convenient than plastic and downright unusable for online purchases. Another downside I’ve encountered recently is that it is becoming more common for merchants to not be able to provide sufficient change. I can only assume this is because far fewer customers are using cash.

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- Buy hardware wallet locally and pay with cash.
 - Buy hardware wallet only from official website or reseller store.
 - Use crypto for payment, not connected with your real ID, or pay with cash in your local authorized reseller.

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September 18, 2026, 07:08:52 AM
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If want to be anonymous, it's best to buy hardware wallets at store and with cash.
I've never seen a physical shop that sells hardware wallets. There's a Dutch webshop with a few physical shops, but you'd have to order it online first if you want to pick it up.

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September 18, 2026, 07:53:47 PM
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If want to be anonymous, it's best to buy hardware wallets at store and with cash.
I've never seen a physical shop that sells hardware wallets. There's a Dutch webshop with a few physical shops, but you'd have to order it online first if you want to pick it up.
I have never seen one too in my jurisdiction. Let’s say i can find such a physical shop where i live, i don’t think that is even anonymous, because you are going to show your face. It could take one bad employee in the physical store to put a trail on your back.
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September 18, 2026, 09:15:41 PM
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I have never seen one too in my jurisdiction. Let’s say i can find such a physical shop where i live, i don’t think that is even anonymous, because you are going to show your face. It could take one bad employee in the physical store to put a trail on your back.

How? You think some guy behind a counter earning minimum wage gives a damn about tracing your steps?  Besides, showing your face at a shop is not a trace unless you are handing them your ID or paying with a card tied to your name. Paying with cash leaves zero paper trail.

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September 19, 2026, 06:37:57 AM
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How? You think some guy behind a counter earning minimum wage gives a damn about tracing your steps?  Besides, showing your face at a shop is not a trace unless you are handing them your ID or paying with a card tied to your name. Paying with cash leaves zero paper trail.
Paranoid me would think shops are filled with cameras, and I can't know who keeps the footage.

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September 19, 2026, 03:16:52 PM
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How? You think some guy behind a counter earning minimum wage gives a damn about tracing your steps?  Besides, showing your face at a shop is not a trace unless you are handing them your ID or paying with a card tied to your name. Paying with cash leaves zero paper trail.
Paranoid me would think shops are filled with cameras, and I can't know who keeps the footage.

True, but it is still way better than buying online with a card and handing over your full ID and home address.  i prefer leaving as little digital footprint as possible.

Once your data is on a server, it stays there.

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September 19, 2026, 03:21:02 PM
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True, but it is still way better than buying online with a card
Doesn't every hardware manufacturer accept Bitcoin or more private crypto?

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Once your data is on a server, it stays there.
Delivery is really the weak spot of anything privacy related Sad

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September 20, 2026, 03:43:06 AM
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Paranoid me would think shops are filled with cameras, and I can't know who keeps the footage.
Easy, ask your niece or nephew to buy it for you, discreetly tail him if you want to make sure that it's bought at the correct store or for other paranoid concerns :P
Or better yet, someone you trust but unrelated to you.

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September 20, 2026, 05:34:41 AM
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Easy, ask your niece or nephew to buy it for you
That would make someone else a target.

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Or better yet, someone you trust but unrelated to you.
I try not to mix real life with crypto related things.

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September 20, 2026, 05:57:28 AM
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Easy, ask your niece or nephew to buy it for you
That would make someone else a target.
I tend not this think it that way, unless he enters the store straight out of a Lambo wearing 10kg of jewelry.
But I see the point if it's coming a the paranoid person's perspective.

But IMO, between a physical store and online via delivery, I'd choose the former as suggested by notocactus.

Anyways, we're getting off-topic so I wont reply any further.

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October 10, 2026, 06:50:12 AM
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i would also buy a Trezor hardware wallet
If you're not in a rush: their annual Black Friday discounts are high enough to never buy their product the rest of the year Wink
I’ve been attentively following the Ledger incident since the news broke yesterday, and honestly i don’t think i want to get any hardware wallet after that man. I know that it’s not entirely the fault of the manufacturer in this situation, but the supply chain risks exist with these devices. I will stick with my setup, electrum on an airgapped machine, i’ll feel much safer with this method.
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