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August 18, 2026, 03:34:56 AM
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I've picked my retirement location based on the same logic that made my Arizona prediction come true.  The outskirts of Phoenix, AZ are already on rolling blackouts due to their 32 year old drought.  Tradewinds may change, but they always flow west to east in the northern hemisphere.   Warm air may hold more water, but the winds cannot clear mountain ranges until they dumps their Angry load.

The locations having the weakest climate disasters will be hugging the east side of a mountain range as close as possible to 45 degrees latitude (avoid the unknown changes near the poles and the equator).   You'll need to fireproof your house but you'll have all the water you need via rivers that snake across your continental divide, if you have one.   Wink


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August 18, 2026, 11:29:21 AM
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From what I understand about your writing and my contribution. You based on your facts based on a prediction that worked once. Just once. You didn't test it up to 50 times. That aside. Before a place can be called safe place, you need to know that there is no were in the world that is free from risk. There's always risk. Just that some sides has lesser risk than the other. So picking a place shouldn't be about were is safe. There ain't a place like that. You should pick a place based on how less of a risk is it to stay there.

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August 18, 2026, 04:45:42 PM
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you need to know that there is no were in the world that is free from risk. There's always risk.  You should pick a place based on how less of a risk is it to stay there.

That's why I wrote "The locations having the weakest climate disasters" - I never claimed anyplace is free from risk.


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August 19, 2026, 10:00:00 PM
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While you are worried about climate collapse, have you also thought about other natural disasters?

I am just looking at this from a global perspective. I think different parts of the world have a share of different forms of catastrophes. From natural wild fires, floods, Volcanic activity, earthquakes , landslides to tornadoes and typhoons. We all just hope that we are not at the wrong place at the wrong time.

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August 19, 2026, 10:56:22 PM
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Global warming and the increasing temperature rise are common in most parts of the world, including where you live currently and probably the safest place via your logic  Wink. If I'm wrong, please correct me Smiley

Though climate does not directly cause wildfires often and the risk the risk varies enormously. Yet it isn't something to overlook. No place is totally safe, IMO. We just have to play our role and leave the rest to God.

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August 20, 2026, 12:23:06 AM
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While you are worried about climate collapse, have you also thought about other natural disasters?

I am just looking at this from a global perspective. I think different parts of the world have a share of different forms of catastrophes. From natural wild fires, floods, Volcanic activity, earthquakes , landslides to tornadoes and typhoons. We all just hope that we are not at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Most of those come from climate change - wild fires, floods, landslides, tornados, hurricanes/typhoons.   Now think about this:  How do know the added weight of the ocean is not affecting how often these faults slip and volcanoes erupt?   Melting polar ice, for example, reduces the weight on the North American plate allowing it to slip easier, while increasing water pressure everywhere else.

Global warming and the increasing temperature rise are common in most parts of the world, including where you live currently and probably the safest place via your logic  Wink. If I'm wrong, please correct me Smiley ... We just have to play our role and leave the rest to God.

I don't live in a safe place yet.   My logic is based on the known vs unknown factors.  
We know the equator and the poles are affected by climate change early.
We know that warmer air holds more moisture.
We know the earth's rotation forces northern trade winds west to east.
We know clouds need to lose moisture to pass the mountains.

So while I cannot know what the extra heat will do in the long term, I'm selecting my retirement spot to have the best chance based on physics.

BUT, if you have proof of which god to trust in, please provide it to the world so we can stop the Iran/Israel war and lower fuel prices.

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Climate collapse is still something in which one can be able to manage or adapt through, compared to natural disaster that happens, if you are more conversant with the news, you will see several countries already been affected this year by either of those natural disasters, however weather is still something worth considerable and the collective sum of the weather is what gives us the result of a climate condition within a particular region.

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Meanwhile, in the outskirts of Phoenix, AZ my yard has flooded twice this week from rain. My pool is overflowing and I actually am going to need to drain some water from it today.

Don’t believe everything you read.

A few years ago when I was researching where to live in the event the climate goes nuts, I landed on Idaho being the safest place to be.

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August 20, 2026, 09:42:37 PM
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Climate collapse is still something in which one can be able to manage or adapt through, compared to natural disaster that happens, if you are more conversant with the news, you will see several countries already been affected this year by either of those natural disasters, however weather is still something worth considerable and the collective sum of the weather is what gives us the result of a climate condition within a particular region.
It depends on the climate change and the texture of his skin. Some climate changes are unadaptable. You feel you've found a solution for its effect, not knowing it is killing you gradually. 

If you know Jamal Musiala, the Bayern Munich player who collapsed twice on the field due to climate factors, as reported, you would understand why I said some people need to leave the environment instead of adapting.

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August 20, 2026, 11:57:12 PM
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Meanwhile, in the outskirts of Phoenix, AZ my yard has flooded twice this week from rain. My pool is overflowing and I actually am going to need to drain some water from it today.

Hopefully you store that water somewhere for next summer, when your pool is empty.  Only person with water?  You'll be popular!  

Idaho is hugging the east side of the Rockies, like I suggested.   Wise choice.

It depends on the climate change and the texture of his skin. Some climate changes are unadaptable. You feel you've found a solution for its effect, not knowing it is killing you gradually.  

No matter the color of skin, all humans will die at a wet bulb temperature of 95F within six hours.

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I've picked my retirement location based on the same logic that made my Arizona prediction come true.  The outskirts of Phoenix, AZ are already on rolling blackouts due to their 32 year old drought.  Tradewinds may change, but they always flow west to east in the northern hemisphere.   Warm air may hold more water, but the winds cannot clear mountain ranges until they dumps their Angry load.

The locations having the weakest climate disasters will be hugging the east side of a mountain range as close as possible to 45 degrees latitude (avoid the unknown changes near the poles and the equator).   You'll need to fireproof your house but you'll have all the water you need via rivers that snake across your continental divide, if you have one.   Wink


Correction: Trade winds blow EAST to WEST near the equator, which is where the name originated. It is the mid-latitude west winds that blow from west to east. Because everything you've said about hugging the east side of the mountain is based on the wind direction, that is an error.

Rain shadows are a reality, but 45 degrees N + east slope = safe doesn't always hold true. It's not a formula – local wind patterns, elevation and ocean currents all contribute.

But declaring a drought in Phoenix isn't particularly a bold call to make — decades ago, climatologists declared a drought.

But good instincts on rivers/continental divides for water security. Only bet on actual regional climate projections (NOAA, IPCC) rather than latitude and a compass.
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