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Today at 06:45:04 AM
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‎We shouldn’t be too harsh on newbies for breaking some simple rules in this forum because some of them actually broke the rule out of ignorance.

In my opinion, newbies here in this forum are generally not newbies outside, not children. Most of them are grown-up people who can read and understand, most of them used internet and social media platforms already.
And the rules are not hidden. They are all pinned in top of every board of this forum.
So using newbie status to break any rules is not a valid excuse, also, newbies are not supposed to do anything else but read and understand first. So they should naturally not break any rules.

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Today at 07:08:47 AM
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‎We shouldn’t be too harsh on newbies for breaking some simple rules in this forum because some of them actually broke the rule out of ignorance.

In my opinion, newbies here in this forum are generally not newbies outside, not children. Most of them are grown-up people who can read and understand, most of them used internet and social media platforms already.
And the rules are not hidden. They are all pinned in top of every board of this forum.
So using newbie status to break any rules is not a valid excuse, also, newbies are not supposed to do anything else but read and understand first. So they should naturally not break any rules.

I will say that there are extents of rules that can be tolerated from a newbie because sometimes it's not like they don't read the rules or the pinned posts. But these rules are too many that they can't memorise all at once and they can break some of them once in a while. But the main indicator of whether a person has read some rules at all or not is in the type of rules they break. There are rules that clearly can not be broken by someone who has put in some amount of effort to read the rules while there are other rules that one may have read but didn't understand well. Such newbies who are willing to learn then resort to creating threads to question whatever they do not understand. This approach may not be perfect because it leads to many duplicate threads, but it is better than acting ignorantly and getting caught in avoidable mistakes. When they get answers, then they should apply it and never break the rules going forward.

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Today at 07:15:16 AM
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When I was new to the forum, I read most of the pinned posts on the Beginners & Help and Meta boards. They helped me a lot to understand at least the basic rules of the forum. Back then I spent more time reading than posting. However I learned more from the pinned posts on our Local Board, because everything was explained in my own languages, then as I used the forum regularly, I gradually understood the rest of the rules and still I may not know all the rules. And honestly the forum rules is not that hard, if you are honest yourself.

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Today at 08:14:53 AM
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Those that are new in this forum can’t actually know all the forum rules at once, the longer you stay in this forum the more you know the rules very well.

‎If you are new here don’t put too much pressure on yourself to know everything at once, just take it one step at a time.
‎The longer you stay here the more things you will know.

‎We shouldn’t be too harsh on newbies for breaking some simple rules in this forum because some of them actually broke the rule out of ignorance.

‎When I newly joined this forum I didn’t know all the rules, but the longer I stayed the more familiar those rules were to me.

‎I will encourage those that are new in this forum to always visit the meta and reputation board, some cases over there will help you know what you should do or not do in this forum
‎This advice is not for beginners alone even some older members in this forum, because I believe some older members still don’t know all the rules.

‎Lastly try to read the pinned posts in every board you visit
Yeah they certainly cannot master all the rules at once but the problem is that they have no choice but to know and master all of them because one offense can destroy everything. I think most users including new and old don’t really read through the rules but they only get to find out and learn more of it through the discussions going on and how offenders are getting punished for it, meanwhile they might’ve as well defaulted in the same offense prior to hearing about it without knowing. So, In order to be at the safer side it’s better to first master the rules when coming in a forum like this because most will say “ignorance to the law is not an excuse “.

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Today at 11:02:32 AM
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I agree with you that the forum rule is actually easy and clear to understand just like the once you mentioned, however there some rules or things that newbies may not actually know at the beginning like AI rules, using translator to post in another local board, cheating on contest, posting things that are not verified, begging of merit, creating thread recently created by another member, spamming, buying of account, etc.

I think the desire to grow fast make some newbies miss out on some certain things they should know.
I understand that real newbies, especially those new in discussion forums might find here a bit hard to cope, but the fact remains that most newbies come here with the intention of making money fast and not learning and engaging properly, most of those newbies that fall in the second category are the ones more vulnerable to failing the rules.

The first thing to do when you come into a new environment is to look around for the rules of engagement and ask if you don't see them, the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ is enough to get any newbie started, good thing it's still being updated to reflect current rules that unfolds. Cheating in contests is an intentional act, contests has it's own rules as well, so I don't think there's much of an excuse for newbies here.

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Today at 04:04:36 PM
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It is in every community not only in the BTC community, it's not possible to know everything in a place that you are newly introduce to it's the more you stay the more you know more things about the community and also the rules and regulations guilding the community.
It's also important to ask some questions in a place you are not familiar about, so it's normal as a beginner to learn everything from the scratch you can't be new and know everything at a time.

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Today at 05:39:28 PM
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Reading before making any post is very important as a beginner, you aren't expected to know everything within a short period of time that's why the rules are there to always go through so you can get acquainted to the forum. The reason why it is always emphasised to read is because of the knowledge you are going to gain and not just reminding yourself of the rules. Some newbies focus too much on trying to create threads even when they have no idea of what to discuss, this pressure is what makes some of them use Ai and then theynget flagged at the end of the day.

Lastly, newbies should not feel discouraged if old members are being harsh with their corrections and constructive criticisms, the process is all to make everyone become better, they must be mature enough to accept this corrections in whatever manner it comes.

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