ILuckyGuyI is part of an alt farm that has been cheating contests for years

[jeremypwr]

Now fellas, play nice

In lieu of recent discoveries, I have adjusted my trust list

Cheaters suck

[hosemary]

In lieu of recent discoveries, I have adjusted my trust list

jeremypwr, it's entirely up to you, but you may want to consider removing your positive feedback too.
Your feedback says CLS63 is trustworthy, and I don't think you still believe that CLS63 is a trustworthy user.

[jeremypwr]

In lieu of recent discoveries, I have adjusted my trust list

jeremypwr, it's entirely up to you, but you may want to consider removing your positive feedback too.
Your feedback says CLS63 is trustworthy, and I don't think you still believe that CLS63 is a trustworthy user.

Noted and done, thanks

[CLS63]

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Who helped you write this post?

My sister helped.   I was very upset that day. I asked my sister for help with the translation.  She told me, "Are you stupid? Look at the things you're wasting your time on." 😂 In short, screw it. I'll use Translate today, let's see how it goes.

What was important to me was not losing the friends I'd met in real life because of an incident like this, because, you know, friendships aren't easily formed. While preparing my answers to your questions for Wednesday, I saw theymos's message and realized that my answers had become meaningless. Nevertheless, I will send my writing so that my effort is not wasted.  

1) We understand your connection with ILuckyGuyI, but your money transactions are the same as with all your other accounts, and your wake-up time is the same as with all your other accounts. Is it possible that this is a coincidence?


It's possible because almost all the other accounts belonged to him, meaning he was converting the money I earned from the forum into Turkish lira for me.

2) How did you do the translations?

When he was available, he would write to me, and I would write the Turkish versions of the posts I wanted to send him on the forum, and he would translate them into English for me. Since forum posts are public, this didn't violate anyone's privacy. I used Translate on Telegram because it wouldn't be ethical to do the same thing there, so my style was different.

3) When did you meet in real life outside of the forum and what were the posts like around those dates?

That hadn't occurred to me, thanks for the question. We met between March 15-18, 2024, which is why my posting history from those dates differs from my other accounts. Because I couldn't post much when I was drunk.  

4) Does being a good person have anything to do with this event?

I believe I managed the F1 pool for three years and everyone paid the price. I understand and agree with the criticism that some people here might be good people but that doesn't mean they don't cheat. It's not the same thing.

5) What were your answers like in the competitions? Were they similar?

I didn't cheat in the competitions. I've been participating in BSFL for 5 years. I think if all these accounts belonged to me, we wouldn't be responding at the same time some weeks. Or in bets where the minute of the first goal is important, one of us wouldn't write 6th minute while the other doesn't write 7th minute.

I will not speak about this matter anymore. I think the most logical step would be to remove the positive trusts given to me. Because, no matter how much I deny it, I lost the case. Still, it's wonderful to see that there are so many friends who stand by me here. Making friends is really hard, and I'm not saying this just for the sake of saying it, these friends are truly friends, and I thank them all.

Finally, although I sometimes criticize my country, nobody here is starving. Our economic situation hasn't been great lately, but I believe everything will get better (my situation is above average). So nobody needs to pity me. It's always best to remain objective.

[jahead]

[...] It's possible because almost all the other accounts belonged to him, [...]

Even though in general I dont believe a single word you say:

This means you supposedly knew the whole time that the accounts allegedly belonged to "someone else" who was cheating the whole time, and you didnt mention it at all.  

You say "almost all of them", ok so which ones are actually yours? 

And probably the most important question: which other accounts does "he" control too? You seem to know more than you are telling us here.
You talk about so-called "friendships" but all you do is lie. If I were somehow your "friend", I wouldnt believe a single word from you anymore.

edit:
I deliberately ignored all the other side facts you mentioned because they arent worth the typed words.
Just total nonsense.

[Fortify]

CLS63 - you remain a friend and that bond will not break over this. However even in searching for ways to disprove it, like how the other accounts had a more similar all-time posting profile (with a spike around the same time) I then noticed that all these accounts were created at nearly the same time too which is just one more piece of evidence there's a connection. Now with the latest IP address detail from theymos, it is so hard to distinguish your account from the other accounts that you can hardly see a gap between them any more. If you are closely connected with account farmers, now is the time to disassociate from them because they've caused this trouble for you. It would not seem right for the integrity of the board trust system to leave it a positive in place, so I will have to resubmit comments about you under a neutral tag for what little it matters. If you somehow are running this account farm it's actually highly impressive how you've been able to keep it going for so long and must have earned a fair whack from it, but it is ultimately artificial noise that the community rightly wants rid of. If somehow there is future evidence that you can show to separate yourself from these accounts definitively, I'll rethink this again.

[joker_josue]

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Who helped you write this post?

My sister helped.   I was very upset that day. I asked my sister for help with the translation.  She told me, "Are you stupid? Look at the things you're wasting your time on." 😂 In short, screw it. I'll use Translate today, let's see how it goes.

What was important to me was not losing the friends I'd met in real life because of an incident like this, because, you know, friendships aren't easily formed. While preparing my answers to your questions for Wednesday, I saw theymos's message and realized that my answers had become meaningless. Nevertheless, I will send my writing so that my effort is not wasted.  

1) We understand your connection with ILuckyGuyI, but your money transactions are the same as with all your other accounts, and your wake-up time is the same as with all your other accounts. Is it possible that this is a coincidence?


It's possible because almost all the other accounts belonged to him, meaning he was converting the money I earned from the forum into Turkish lira for me.

2) How did you do the translations?

When he was available, he would write to me, and I would write the Turkish versions of the posts I wanted to send him on the forum, and he would translate them into English for me. Since forum posts are public, this didn't violate anyone's privacy. I used Translate on Telegram because it wouldn't be ethical to do the same thing there, so my style was different.

In the end, the translator works well. Have you seen all the money you've lost all these years on translations?

There's still something that confuses me regarding translations. Sorry to insist.

You were asking ILuckyGuyI to translate what you wanted to reply, right?
So, you were online on the forum, you saw a topic you wanted to reply to in English, what did you do next? You would write the text in Turkish to ILuckyGuyI on Telegram and wait for his reply?
How long did it take him to respond? I'd say 5-10 minutes.

Now, imagine that in the meantime, other users were replying to the thread with things you had thought of saying, or answering the question you had thought of answering. What would you do?
Would you ask him to rewrite the text he wrote? Would you post it anyway? Or would you simply not post it anymore?


Another thing that confuses me is the availability hours of ILuckyGuyI on the forum, versus yours.
ILuckyGuyI is usually available between 4-5 PM. You are available in the evening after 8 PM. If ILuckyGuyI was doing translations for you, why didn't he also check out the forum and participate?
Furthermore, the number of posts they both made daily was almost always (if not always) the same every day. That seems strange to me.
But this, perhaps, must be ILuckyGuyI trying to explain...


I just keep wondering how much you paid for the translation, because it seems like there's a lot of work and time involved in the whole process.
It should be a really worthwhile amount, both for you and for the translator...

[Revolution2025]

The IP evidence is strongly supportive of ILuckyGuyI, CLS63, jakdanyel, emrecemsan, Velvet78, and Distraction all being the same person. In each case there are even logs of them sharing exactly the same IPv6 address, which is very rare if it's not the same person.

thanks for your intervention in this case, we hope to see you intercede in similar case in the future

all evidence is against you

there's nothing for you to prove

let us assume that all the accounts are handled by different users

why did you chose to share same router/WiFi with your friends when you know that your IP addresses will be the same

the strongest evidence that can be used against you in the forum is wallet connection, why did you use same deposit address and transfer cryptocurrency to each other

if possibly you are not the sole owner of all the accounts mentioned in this case then the only excuse will be that you all work together in same space, share same Router/WiFi, help each other in writing posts, same posting style and pattern then the sequence continues

it is very shameful that you find yourself in this situation after spending nearly 10 years in the forum

you have to slap yourself for being stupid

[CLS63]

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When translating English texts, I used to rely on Translate. Even if the meaning was sometimes distorted, I could still understand most of the texts. I just thought that if I used Translate, my posts wouldn’t be accepted for signature campaigns because of the post quality. Actually, I wasn’t paying for it just for translation. It was helping me convert Bitcoin into Turkish lira.

By the way, I’m not trying to defend myself against the forum anymore in this situation. If I’m not given negative trust, it would become impossible to punish other account abusers who are accused in similar cases on the forum. I’m just trying to explain to the people who are defending me here that they weren’t mistaken about me.

Normally, I wasn’t going to reply anymore, but since you have been quite polite even though you are against me, I wanted to respond to you. This matter is now closed for me. Thank you very much, everyone.

[mindrust]

I am pretty surprised to see that theymos did interfere and post his own opinions and backed them with data... as far as I know he wasnt interested any of the forum drama in the past. he was like a ghost. now he comes out of the shadows, posts backend logs, shapes the public opinion.

This will act as a deterrent too. The other acc farmers now know it, if they abuse the forum too much, the admin can check the logs and identify the alts pretty easily. Surely there are ways to use multiple IP's but it will definitely make things harder for the farmers. One missclick and your IP is now connected to the every other alt you got.

It was already hard to control and post from multiple accounts. Now it became way harder.

Pretty sure IP isnt the only thing that gives away your real identity anyway. Digital finger prints and shiet, theymos is smart enough to look into those as well. Does he care enough? He did care enough to look into the IP logs... Next time he might take this one step further.

[snipie]

I am pretty surprised to see that theymos did interfere and post his own opinions and backed them with data... as far as I know he wasnt interested any of the forum drama in the past. he was like a ghost. now he comes out of the shadows, posts backend logs, shapes the public opinion.

This will act as a deterrent too. The other acc farmers now know it, if they abuse the forum too much, the admin can check the logs and identify the alts pretty easily. Surely there are ways to use multiple IP's but it will definitely make things harder for the farmers. One missclick and your IP is now connected to the every other alt you got.

It was already hard to control and post from multiple accounts. Now it became way harder.

Pretty sure IP isnt the only thing that gives away your real identity anyway. Digital finger prints and shiet, theymos is smart enough to look into those as well. Does he care enough? He did care enough to look into the IP logs... Next time he might take this one step further.

As far as my bad memory recall, I believe theymos interfered in the past on similar cases. This is not a precedent if I am not mistaken. You can try searching if you are interested.
IP logs are limited but could give a lot of information. I don't know if the forums gather more information about the device used to connect and the browser because within big and young families, you can find several members sharing the same config. Same goes for group of friends, students living together.

[xLays]

I am pretty surprised to see that theymos did interfere and post his own opinions and backed them with data... as far as I know he wasnt interested any of the forum drama in the past. he was like a ghost. now he comes out of the shadows, posts backend logs, shapes the public opinion.

This will act as a deterrent too. The other acc farmers now know it, if they abuse the forum too much, the admin can check the logs and identify the alts pretty easily. Surely there are ways to use multiple IP's but it will definitely make things harder for the farmers. One missclick and your IP is now connected to the every other alt you got.

It was already hard to control and post from multiple accounts. Now it became way harder.

Pretty sure IP isnt the only thing that gives away your real identity anyway. Digital finger prints and shiet, theymos is smart enough to look into those as well. Does he care enough? He did care enough to look into the IP logs... Next time he might take this one step further.

I think the reason theymos got involved this time is simply because someone probably asked him to look into it. I don't think he suddenly became interested in issue or the drama you talking about. If nobody had asked for his input or brought the issue to his attention, I doubt he would have stepped in and checked the backend logs.
As he recently said, he's okay with users sending suggestions, whether they are made publicly or privately. So maybe someone took that opportunity and asked him to look into this particular issue.