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September 02, 2026, 10:02:02 AM
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That was what I was getting at. We stopped trying to solve real-world problems. I think I am fed up and will do something about it. Some may not agree with my assertions, but nobody will be able to claim the project is not at the frontier of the space. Somewhere along the way, people forgot that Bitcoin was a revolution and not just an investment. I have, for the past 8 years, always said that the prevailing crypto economics are misaligned with real-world usage. Meanwhile, I think our overlords are going to cram CBDC's down our throats before anything appreciable happens in this space.



So why don't you just go back and work on the bitcore UTXO fork then or do something with that? See this is the actual problem here. Why would anyone believe ANY developer when they have already worked on a project and left it before?
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September 02, 2026, 10:17:21 AM
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That was what I was getting at. We stopped trying to solve real-world problems. I think I am fed up and will do something about it. Some may not agree with my assertions, but nobody will be able to claim the project is not at the frontier of the space. Somewhere along the way, people forgot that Bitcoin was a revolution and not just an investment. I have, for the past 8 years, always said that the prevailing crypto economics are misaligned with real-world usage. Meanwhile, I think our overlords are going to cram CBDC's down our throats before anything appreciable happens in this space.



So why don't you just go back and work on the bitcore UTXO fork then or do something with that? See this is the actual problem here. Why would anyone believe ANY developer when they have already worked on a project and left it before?

I was never a developer, and my framing has always been consistent that the economics have been misaligned. I have, off and on, been developing an algorithm the entire time. I am finished with it now and have the means to get a project to the start line. Besides, isn't it a bit rigid that one can never be taken seriously just because they have been a part of something else prior?
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September 02, 2026, 10:38:13 AM
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In my opinion, I think what actually pioneered the creativity then was the fact that investors of then would not just buy any random token without seeing a green light that signals that the project's native token will have a good utility value. Investors then paid attention to the value of the project and so it sparked competition such that developers wants to create an innovative projects because they want investors to chose them over other projects. Back then there used to be a question like, "why should we consider to invest in your token instead of  X token?"  What changed was that new investors felt that once you buy a random token, you will immediately become rich and as they keep buying the low value project, competition dropped, scammers saw an opportunity to trend and that's how it continued till today.

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September 02, 2026, 11:11:17 AM
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In my opinion, I think what actually pioneered the creativity then was the fact that investors of then would not just buy any random token without seeing a green light that signals that the project's native token will have a good utility value. Investors then paid attention to the value of the project and so it sparked competition such that developers wants to create an innovative projects because they want investors to chose them over other projects. Back then there used to be a question like, "why should we consider to invest in your token instead of  X token?"  What changed was that new investors felt that once you buy a random token, you will immediately become rich and as they keep buying the low value project, competition dropped, scammers saw an opportunity to trend and that's how it continued till today.

What year would you say this started happening?
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September 02, 2026, 01:30:43 PM
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I was never a developer, and my framing has always been consistent that the economics have been misaligned. I have, off and on, been developing an algorithm the entire time. I am finished with it now and have the means to get a project to the start line. Besides, isn't it a bit rigid that one can never be taken seriously just because they have been a part of something else prior?


You were part of the team there so I assumed you were a developer but apologies for the misunderstanding if you were something else. Yes probably a bit rigid but if you believe in something you would stick with it but since you think its economics is misaligned then you obviously don't believe in it I guess although I don't see the issue with bitcore's economics myself. It does what it says on the tin.
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Today at 01:17:15 AM
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We stopped trying to solve real-world problems. I think I am fed up and will do something about it.

I think there's a deeper problem. Altcoin projects in particular between 2017 and 2021ish tried to convince people that blockchain was a kind of magical tool that could solve a lot of real life problems. Not only of financial nature, but also for communication (e.g. Steem[it], but also these logistics blockchains for example nobody speaks about anymore ...).

But blockchain's use cases are actually quite limited. Outside of finance, traditional centralized models perform much better, or alternatively a P2P network without blockchain is enough in applications where the double spend problem is irrelevant (e.g. social networks).

Even in finance, most problems can't be solved by blockchains. In 2017/18 several projects tried to "solve the loan problem". Yes, we have now DeFi "lending", but you have to overcollateralize everything, so this kind of loans simply aren't adequate for most cases where people or businesses need a loan. Normally if you need a loan you don't have money - but for a DeFi loan you need to possess that money already. ICOs still seem to be the closest thing to a real loan you can get.

So I would be curious where you would innovate in today's crypto space? Which real life problems do you have in mind? I don't rule out there are some use cases that have been underexplored, but in general I'm a bit pessimistic.

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There was a lot more innovation and excitement back in earlier years like 2010-11 and it all dwindled down as the "gamblers" flooded the crypto-world trying to make "profit". They basically killed innovation in my opinion, specially ever since creating a new coin to dump on newbies became a piece of cake (introduction of tokens). At least in early years even the shitcoin makers had to have some programming skills and put some lipstick on their pigs metaphorically speaking in order to sell them. Nowadays they just lazily create a token with virtually no effort or cost.

That was what I was getting at. We stopped trying to solve real-world problems. I think I am fed up and will do something about it. Some may not agree with my assertions, but nobody will be able to claim the project is not at the frontier of the space. Somewhere along the way, people forgot that Bitcoin was a revolution and not just an investment. I have, for the past 8 years, always said that the prevailing crypto economics are misaligned with real-world usage. Meanwhile, I think our overlords are going to cram CBDC's down our throats before anything appreciable happens in this space.
I do think that the economy of altcoin started to get misaligned once the traditional finance capital is flooding the space, the newest project that lacks creativity and only providing solution to a solved problem mostly funded by ventures that only want to flip their money, and it's always them over and over again funding project that is doing the same thing. Most founders are also ex-FAANG who knows what these investors wants which is quick profit and most of them only want to build finances.

I think there's a deeper problem. Altcoin projects in particular between 2017 and 2021ish tried to convince people that blockchain was a kind of magical tool that could solve a lot of real life problems. Not only of financial nature, but also for communication (e.g. Steem[it], but also these logistics blockchains for example nobody speaks about anymore ...).

But blockchain's use cases are actually quite limited. Outside of finance, traditional centralized models perform much better, or alternatively a P2P network without blockchain is enough in applications where the double spend problem is irrelevant (e.g. social networks).
Agreed unfortunately remittance, financing, and speculation are the ones that could actually generate revenue and new founders simply want to "redefine the current solution" and don't want to venture into highly experimental projects.

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Today at 03:08:26 AM
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I was never a developer, and my framing has always been consistent that the economics have been misaligned. I have, off and on, been developing an algorithm the entire time. I am finished with it now and have the means to get a project to the start line. Besides, isn't it a bit rigid that one can never be taken seriously just because they have been a part of something else prior?


You were part of the team there so I assumed you were a developer but apologies for the misunderstanding if you were something else. Yes probably a bit rigid but if you believe in something you would stick with it but since you think its economics is misaligned then you obviously don't believe in it I guess although I don't see the issue with bitcore's economics myself. It does what it says on the tin.

Haha apparently I was never part of the team. However, I thought I was apart of the team the whole time. I mostly did a lot of integration work. In the end, I just basically got 2 exchange integrations, wrote an article, and was responsible for the living room of satoshi integration. I sold everything, but not before giving disclosure about some of the things I suspected were going on and also how the airdrop gimmick was going to go down in the end. It was my first real full bull cycle so clearly my judgment then was not the same as it is now. My original idea on the economics has also changed dramatically even if the core ethos has largely remained the same.
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Today at 03:55:19 AM
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We stopped trying to solve real-world problems. I think I am fed up and will do something about it.

I think there's a deeper problem. Altcoin projects in particular between 2017 and 2021ish tried to convince people that blockchain was a kind of magical tool that could solve a lot of real life problems. Not only of financial nature, but also for communication (e.g. Steem[it], but also these logistics blockchains for example nobody speaks about anymore ...).

But blockchain's use cases are actually quite limited. Outside of finance, traditional centralized models perform much better, or alternatively a P2P network without blockchain is enough in applications where the double spend problem is irrelevant (e.g. social networks).

Even in finance, most problems can't be solved by blockchains. In 2017/18 several projects tried to "solve the loan problem". Yes, we have now DeFi "lending", but you have to overcollateralize everything, so this kind of loans simply aren't adequate for most cases where people or businesses need a loan. Normally if you need a loan you don't have money - but for a DeFi loan you need to possess that money already. ICOs still seem to be the closest thing to a real loan you can get.

So I would be curious where you would innovate in today's crypto space? Which real life problems do you have in mind? I don't rule out there are some use cases that have been underexplored, but in general I'm a bit pessimistic.

My block reward algorithm is different because it doesn’t rely on a rigid block reward schedule that was decided years in advance. Instead, it looks at what is actually happening in the mining environment over both shorter and longer periods and adjusts the reward gradually. It does this by using endogenous metrics but I will leave you to surmise which one is the most important, critical, or usable. I still want to play things close to the vest for now. I am finishing up production code over the following days and then I will enter testing. At any rate, there are still strict limits on how much it can change, so it isn’t unpredictable, but it also isn’t blind to changes in technology or mining conditions.

The main problem I’m trying to solve is long-term network security. Mining hardware, energy efficiency, competition, and the overall cost of securing a network can change dramatically over decades. A fixed reward schedule assumes those conditions will somehow line up with a predetermined curve forever. My algorithm tries to avoid that problem by keeping miner incentives connected to real mining conditions, while using smoothing, adjustment limits, and a permanent reward floor to prevent extreme changes. The idea is to give the network a more sustainable security budget over the long term rather than eventually relying almost entirely on transaction fees.

I also think of it as being somewhat similar to gold production. Gold supply doesn’t suddenly get cut in half every four years because a schedule says so. Production changes as mining technology improves, deposits become harder to extract, costs change, and miners respond to those conditions. My algorithm takes some inspiration from that idea: the supply is still scarce and governed by rules, but the rate of new production can respond to the real-world economics of mining instead of following an arbitrary timetable forever.

The algorithm may also make the coin more price-stable to a degree, but the simulations show it can only absorb a modest rise in price during bull runs but comparatively more during severe bear markets. I am hesitant to definitively say it works in this way because simulations do not always play out perfectly in the real world. Every simulation is only as good as its initial parameters and there are near-infinite parameters once it's out in the wild.
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