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September 18, 2026, 11:10:34 AM
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Hello everyone.

Yesterday everything on Hodl Hodl worked the way it always has. Then three of my contracts ran into something new: an AML check on the escrow deposit. There was no announcement, nothing in the Terms of Service describes it, and the FAQ still presents the platform as KYC/AML-free. I've been trading there for four years, around 3,800 contracts, and I had never seen this before.

Contract 1 — auto-canceled. After the deposit confirmed, the contract was canceled with the message that it was automatically canceled after the AML check, and I was invited to refund the funds from escrow.

The part that makes this absurd: the coins they flagged came out of Hodl Hodl itself. If you follow that UTXO backwards it's a chain of escrow deposits made on their own platform, with the change returning to my wallet each time, going back several hops to where I originally received the coins. Whatever screening tool they're using doesn't recognize their own escrow.

Contract 2 — 40 minutes in limbo. I opened a new contract and funded it with a different UTXO (coinjoined). After the first confirmation, the contract showed "AML review in progress", with the status marked as "Dispute in progress", the funds locked and no ETA given. Both parties could see it. About 40 minutes later it was released with no explanation, and the trade completed normally.

Contract 3 — auto-canceled, and not even my coins. This time I was buying. The seller funded the escrow, and as soon as the deposit confirmed the contract auto-canceled the same way. Looking at those coins, including with analysis tools, their history was completely ordinary. So this isn't about my wallet or how I trade: it's hitting normal deposits from different users.

What support told me. First reply: it's a standard automated AML compliance check applied to all transactions, it doesn't necessarily mean wrongdoing, and they can't share the specific reason. Second reply: they can't go into the mechanics, the review applies to the funds and not to me as a trader, there's no committed timing, and they acknowledged that the ToS and FAQ are out of date and that they're looking at it.

The problems, as I see them:

The screening produces false positives on coins with a completely ordinary history, including coins that came out of their own escrow, and including deposits made by counterparties.
They describe it as automated, but a contract sat frozen for 40 minutes. An automated check returns a result in seconds. If a human has to review deposits by hand, that doesn't scale.
It fires after confirmation, mid-trade, instead of running in the background when the deposit is broadcast.
The label is shown to both parties. People use a platform like this specifically to stay out of that kind of process.
None of it was announced.

I'm not posting this to trash the platform, at all. I've used it for years and I'd rather it got fixed than replaced. But users deserve to know a change like this is in place, and to know what the rules now are.

Has anyone else run into this? I'd like to know how widespread it already is, and whether anyone has had a contract stuck for longer than mine.

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September 18, 2026, 11:14:39 AM
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Adding the screenshots from the first 2 contracts


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September 18, 2026, 10:19:18 PM
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That sucks!

This is the kind of thing they should have announced they were going to roll out into the platform for weeks so users have a choice on whether to continue or not. It appears just just made an announcement on x on the same day the rolled out their bullshit
A quick update on platform security 🛡️

We've rolled out enhanced bitcoin security scoring across the platform. This is NOT a KYC/AML process.

What changed is technical:
Incoming bitcoin is now checked for serious red flags before a contract settles.

If a bitcoin comes back with a genuinely bad score, we won't let that contract go through. No one wants to end up holding coins they can't move or cash out later - that's the scenario we're closing off.

Most trades are unaffected. This only stops the rare, clearly problematic cases - and it protects both sides of every trade. We'll keep refining this to keep the platform safe without changing what makes it work.

"This is NOT a KYC/AML process"  but then go ahead to check incoming Bitcoin for "serious" red flags and blocking the contract from going through. What a stupid contradiction or maybe they think we are dumb  Grin

I seriously have my utmost respect for the likes of Localmonero and localcryptos for refusing to entertain the AML/KYC bullshit and instead chose to voluntarily shutdown.

...and the FAQ still presents the platform as KYC/AML-free. I've been trading there for four years, around 3,800 contracts, and I had never seen this before.
The platform was already fucked up anyway. They had this in their ToS and could have used it against you anytime they wanted.
3.5 Identification and Verification
If required by applicable law or our internal policies, we may at any time introduce mandatory identification or verification procedures. Failure to complete required verification constitutes a violation of this Agreement and may lead to account suspension or termination.

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September 19, 2026, 09:35:20 AM
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If a bitcoin comes back with a genuinely bad score, we won't let that contract go through. No one wants to end up holding coins they can't move or cash out later - that's the scenario we're closing off.
Honestly, I didn't quite understand that part. What exactly happens if the result is negative? Will they ask for KYC verification, or will they issue a refund? It seems clear from the text above that they might retain those funds (even though it considered high-risk.)

this grey area is worse than asking for KYC.

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September 19, 2026, 09:49:56 AM
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Honestly, I didn't quite understand that part. What exactly happens if the result is negative? Will they ask for KYC verification, or will they issue a refund? It seems clear from the text above that they might retain those funds (even though it considered high-risk.)

this grey area is worse than asking for KYC.
As far as I know they haven't asked for KYC verification yet but we can see where things are headed. The person retains their high risk funds for now. In the same post they claim it's not a KYC/AML process but then I wonder what all the screening is about if it's not an AML process.

They also have clauses in the ToS where they can ask for verification. They probably got sneaked in the terms of service either earlier this year or last year. So in a year or two, they could turn full localbitcoins (mandatory KYC) or just close shop. I am thinking the former is likely to happen.

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September 19, 2026, 10:56:30 AM
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AML has been introduced but not silently. It's terms of service and privacy policy are loud and clear, and they're full of stipulations that directly betray their image as a privacy-focused and anonymous P2P exchange. They're as compliant as centralized exchanges. Although the brand Hodl Hodl is still being passed around by word of mouth as if it's the standard, it's actually an epitome of contradiction.

Hodl hodl bites the dust. It's servility to regulators and authorities is cringing, not only barring users from certain jurisdictions but also those who are citizens, residents, or even just located in:

and those who:



They could also suspend, limit, or terminate any user's access to their platform for various reasons including if:



And in terms of data, they may collect "full name, date of birth, country of residence/citizenship, government-issued ID, and bank/payment account statements" for certain reasons including:





The personal data will be used, among others,



And will be shared with "law enforcement, regulatory authorities, courts, or other public bodies." These will, then, be retained "5 years after the relevant dispute or account closure, unless a longer period is required by law."

We're like reading the terms and conditions of the likes of Binance, only stricter, and despite being peer-to-peer, anonymous, private, non-custodial.


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September 19, 2026, 03:30:23 PM
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Update:

After yesterday's announcement, it looks like the HodlHodl team received a lot of criticism and backlash especially on the manner the pushed out the new changes. So It appear that they have folded for now according to the post of x.com. This is still awake up call to HodlHodl users though. Time to look for better alternatives before it's too late.


Source: https://x.com/annahhodl/status/2101252835266424832

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This appears to be a step backward (pending better development) rather than an abandonment of the idea.
It demonstrates a lack of professionalism; they simply sought to exploit this gray area to freeze transactions without providing a convincing reason.
They won't be able to hold out for long before introducing an explicit KYC requirement.

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Today at 08:10:40 AM
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Update:

After yesterday's announcement, it looks like the HodlHodl team received a lot of criticism and backlash especially on the manner the pushed out the new changes. So It appear that they have folded for now according to the post of x.com. This is still awake up call to HodlHodl users though. Time to look for better alternatives before it's too late.
Hahaa. Now they’re deactivating it arbitrarily. This implies there wasn't any prior regulatory pressure driving the move. It’s unclear if they’re simply testing the waters to see how regular users react, should they decide to follow the compliance steps taken by various CEXs recently.

Well, it’s certainly no laughing matter when policy changes quietly put significant amounts of user funds at stake.

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