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April 08, 2014, 08:45:19 AM
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Earlier I argued that Apple doesn't allow Bitcoin sending because they are preparing their own payment system and it would be a competition to them.

But now I think the reason is security. If people had fat bitcoin wallets on their iPhones it would paint a giant red target on Apple's back. They don't want to be on the front page of newspapers with people complaining they lost $10K worth of bitcoins due to an iOS vulnerability.
I never had the Blockchain app so I don't know, but did you have to log in every time you logged in?

Also it would be cool if they implemented TouchID to keep your Bitcoins safe.
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April 08, 2014, 08:47:03 AM
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Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.

This problem is entirely Apple's making though.  If Apple sold universal computing devices rather than closed platforms then it wouldn't need to worry about any of this, because it could plausibly argue that it is the users who are liable and not Apple.

For example, Microsoft and Intel don't need to worry about getting sued if someone uses a Microsoft/Intel laptop to do something illegal.

The demise of the the universal computing device is a threat to innovation, democracy, and diversity that goes far beyond Bitcoin, and Apple is a major contributor to this trend. This is why people should avoid Apple, not because it blocks some specific app.

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April 08, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
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Apple is for weak minds.
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April 08, 2014, 12:58:23 PM
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Don't you mean "Sheeple"?

I like to think for myself and not get hypnotized by the herd mentality.

Closed source, closed ecosystem, unnecessary censorship of apps, forced upon products and accessories.  NO THANKS!

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April 08, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
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I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:
I have had a few iphones, and many ipods, and an Apple computer.  I like their products, but this is very upsetting to me.  There are soooo many apps for dealing with Bitcion on Android and that seems to be just fine.  Make excuses all you want, but the fact is, Apple isn't allowing people to send bitcoins in its ecosystem.  Final.  This is bullshit, and I will not buy another Apple product until this changes. 

1) Bitcoin has shady legal status in several overseas countries. India has declared Bitcoin an Ponzi scheme (yeah, right!), and others have outright banned Bitcoin. Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.
Apple has an app store for each and every country that sells iphones and no app store for countries without iphones.  Each app store follows the rules of that country.  Look at South Korea for instance.  They made some stupid laws in South Korea about certain games on certain phones.  Apple pulled all the game apps affected by this law in the South Korean app store, but left them in all other countries that apply.  Also, again South Korean laws are very strict about monitoring locations and taking pictures of maps.  South Korea is the only country you can't "find my iphone" or use street view like apps because of the laws.  Your argument has no validity. That simply isn't how it works.  Bitcoins are legal in every state in the US and even taxable, so therefore the US app store should legally be find hosting Bitcoin apps.  If it is banned in India, and somebody in India uses a bitcoin on Coinbase, is India going to imprison Coinbase?Huh The only thing India has jurisdiction over is the Indian App store.   

2) The reason why Blockchain was removed is because Blockchain updated the app and provided false screen shots. Providing screen shots that do not match the app itself is against the Developer Guidelines. Another violation of the guidelines is the fact that the Blockchain's app description made no mention of the sending and receiving Bitcoin.
  Maybe this is true and if it is true, then it was Apple's right 100% to pull the app, and should.  Apple should require full honesty and transparency from its app developers.  Do you have a press release saying this was their reason?

In conclusion, Apple is just protecting their collectively large asses from money hungry governments.
 
No, they aren't.  Coming from a guy who loves all my Apple products, they aren't being fair about it at all. 

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April 08, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
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I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:
I have had a few iphones, and many ipods, and an Apple computer.  I like their products, but this is very upsetting to me.  There are soooo many apps for dealing with Bitcion on Android and that seems to be just fine.  Make excuses all you want, but the fact is, Apple isn't allowing people to send bitcoins in its ecosystem.  Final.  This is bullshit, and I will not buy another Apple product until this changes. 

It's a business decision that makes complete sense. If people were paying for in-app purchases etc. with Bitcoin, then Apple wouldn't be making a cut of the $.
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April 08, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2014, 01:32:23 PM by jabo38
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Furthermore Apple allows a Ripple app for sending and receiving XRP.  The app also claims that it can be used to send and receive bitcoin, but since I don't know about Ripple very much, can somebody confirm this?


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April 08, 2014, 01:12:10 PM
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Furthermore Apple allows a Ripple app for sending and receiving XRP.  The app also claims that it can be used to send and receive bitcoin, but since I don't know about Ripple very much, can somebody confirm this?

You can trade Bitcoin IOUs, but not Bitcoins themselves.
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April 08, 2014, 01:16:16 PM
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You can trade Bitcoin IOUs, but not Bitcoins themselves.

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April 08, 2014, 02:36:34 PM
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Who cares, if you use Apple products, then you hate freedom period, therefore you do not need to know why Apple banned this or that, because you already submitted to their role as your master. Apple will decide what you are allowed to see, hear and use.

I have no interest in knowing why Apple banned this or that, since I have zero Apple products and will keep it that way

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April 08, 2014, 03:18:56 PM
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I think this was the last Apple product I actually liked.  All seemed to go pretty rapidly downhill from there.

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April 08, 2014, 03:29:26 PM
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The apple is rotten we all know the one who pravails is the one who dont set limits for there products

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Apples interest is money, nothing else.
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Ah forgot that they also must be compliant with US scare tactics and prism Smiley

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April 08, 2014, 08:45:07 PM
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I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:

1) Bitcoin has shady legal status in several overseas countries. India has declared Bitcoin an Ponzi scheme (yeah, right!), and others have outright banned Bitcoin. Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.

2) The reason why Blockchain was removed is because Blockchain updated the app and provided false screen shots. Providing screen shots that do not match the app itself is against the Developer Guidelines. Another violation of the guidelines is the fact that the Blockchain's app description made no mention of the sending and receiving Bitcoin.

In conclusion, Apple is just protecting their collectively large asses from money hungry governments.

Do your basic research before posting such bullshit. When on earth India declared Bitcoin as Ponzi ? Show me an authentic source.



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Well, you seem to be quite the fucking asshole. How is that for a first post?

Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.
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Well, you seem to be quite the fucking asshole. How is that for a first post?

Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

Please elaborate.  Didn't get the point! Roll Eyes

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April 08, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
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Let's get the facts straight about Apple.
What are the facts?

Apple has a small/moderate market share. (small for pc's, bigger for phones)
They make huge profits since their products are much more expensive.
You get below average privacy and little control over the devices you paid big $$$ to own.
I'll pass...

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Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

This. OP is stupid prick.

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Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.

This. OP is stupid prick.

Probably just a shill

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