Armory - Discussion Thread

[cosmarchy]

Ok, so now I'm kinda concerned with Armory as it appears to have transferred my BTC to another address.

I have a watching only wallet on an offline computer which holds the address where the BTC are delivered.  I sent some BTC using the offline computer to sign the transaction but back on the online computer I have two extra addresses marked as 'change received' after I made the transaction.  The problem is that the majority of my remaining funds has been moved from the original BTC address into the 'changed received' account.

Where the hell are the private keys for these two extra addresses?  I have no private keys for these two extra accounts as I have not created them - armory has taken this upon itself.  How the hell am I going to get the money back where it should be in the original BTC address.

What the hell is going on here 

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[Coiner.de]

You should choose one of the newer paper backup formats when you restore.

Thanks! That works.

The "Test Paper Backup" should already have the right format selected in this use case.
Also the label in the dialog is "Backup Type:" vs. "Wallet Version:" on the paper.
"Backup Type:" on the paper is "Single-Sheet (Unencryped)"

I think it would help if the same terms were used on screen and on paper.

[goatpig]

Ok, so now I'm kinda concerned with Armory as it appears to have transferred my BTC to another address.

I have a watching only wallet on an offline computer which holds the address where the BTC are delivered.  I sent some BTC using the offline computer to sign the transaction but back on the online computer I have two extra addresses marked as 'change received' after I made the transaction.  The problem is that the majority of my remaining funds has been moved from the original BTC address into the 'changed received' account.

Where the hell are the private keys for these two extra addresses?  I have no private keys for these two extra accounts as I have not created them - armory has taken this upon itself.  How the hell am I going to get the money back where it should be in the original BTC address.

What the hell is going on here 

Armory wallets are deterministic. The private keys are derived from a unique root. Keep clicking receive coins on your offline computer, it'll keep generating new addresses until it eventually hits the ones you have marked as "change address" on the online watch only counterpart of the wallet

[cp1]

Bitcoin always uses change addresses.  Each time you spend your funds whatever wasn't spent will go into a new address.  The paper backup you made with Armory contains all the possible change addresses so you're fine.

[cosmarchy]

Armory wallets are deterministic. The private keys are derived from a unique root. Keep clicking receive coins on your offline computer, it'll keep generating new addresses until it eventually hits the ones you have marked as "change address" on the online watch only counterpart of the wallet

Ah I see.  I have the address now but I'd like to transfer all the funds back to my original BTC address.  Now, the problem is when I come to sign the transaction, there is no transaction amount 

On the online computer I click the Coin Control button under the send menu and choose the newly created 'change' address only.  Back in the main send window, I choose Use An Existing Address For Change and point it towards my original BTC address (not strictly necessary I know but at least it is done for next time!!) and remember for next time.
I choose the recipient address (original BTC address) and hit the max button.  As I would expect, only the entire balance of the 'change' address appears in the amount box.  So far so good (I think ).
After clicking the Create Unsigned Transaction button, I get a dialog confirming I am about to send x BTC to y address and the fees involved etc...

I click Continue and then save this file to a USB stick which I then take to the offline computer.  I click Offline Transactions and then choose to Sign Offline Transaction.  I loads the unsigned file from the USB stick into the Review Offline Transaction window and the Transaction Amount at the bottom of the window is blank.      If I click the sign button it asks me to confirm a transaction consisting of nothing more than a transaction fee.  The funds have somehow gone.

What do I do now???

[Vedran Yoweri]

What the hell is going on here

I think you have things mixed up.

I have a watching only wallet on an offline computer which holds the address where the BTC are delivered.

Your watching only wallet is for your online computer. Having this on your offline computer is useless, there will never be anything to 'see'. (it's not online)
You can also never sign anything with it, that's the point of a watch only wallet.

1. You make a unsigned transaction on your watch only, hot - online  wallet.
2. Move it via the USB stick to your cold - offline wallet where you choose to sign a offline transaction, the one on your USB stick, and copy the signed transaction back to the USB.
3. Move the now signed transaction back to your watch only, hot - online wallet and broadcast the transaction.

Maybe sorting above will clear any confusion.

[cp1]

That may be a bug in the new coin control module.

[cosmarchy]

That may be a bug in the new coin control module.

This is what I was dreading 

Could the Armory developers confirm this either way?

Thanks for your replies guys 

[goatpig]

That may be a bug in the new coin control module.

This is what I was dreading 

Could the Armory developers confirm this either way?

Thanks for your replies guys 

We're gonna have to try and reproduce this situation on our side. Submit a ticket to support@bitcoinarmory.com

[jojo69]

 Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   Armory.exe
  Application Version:   0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:   4918017b
  Fault Module Name:   _CppBlockUtils.pyd
  Fault Module Version:   0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:   5171c370
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   00000000000a3d08
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   1033
  Additional Information 1:   3706
  Additional Information 2:   37060d73631c530367381071a2eab325
  Additional Information 3:   e26e
  Additional Information 4:   e26e00c9daf3cc00ee3eace873b5b01e

[picobit]

Hi etotheipi and co.

I just want to point out that the Bitcoin-Qt developpers are looking at a levelDB problem that could also affect Armory:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337294.0


Edit: As goatpig points out, I mean affect Armory in OS X.

[goatpig]

Hi etotheipi and co.

I just want to point out that the Bitcoin-Qt developpers are looking at a levelDB problem that could also affect Armory:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337294.0

Affecting Armory in OSX you mean? We run on a in house port of LevelDB in Windows built with MSVS whereas Bitcoin-Qt is built using MinGW and Boost (if memory servers me right). I've personnally ran in the LevelDB corruption with BitcoinQt, but I haven't seen any Amory bug claims that would pertain to this issue.

If the issue is trully fsync, then there is a simple fix for it. Although it seems the suspicion has shifted to atomics.

[justusranvier]

It's about time to switch to displaying mBTC...

[solex]

It's about time to switch to displaying mBTC...

I think this needs to be done in a more sophisticated manner via the user configurable options and, ideally, a fx-rate feed from a source like bitcoinaverage.

Perhaps Armory users could select either BTC or mBTC, and choose their favorite fiat as a reference so that a converted value can also be displayed as the blockchain.info wallet does. It all helps users avoid mistakes like overpaying amounts or fees.

[btcsql]

My Bitcoind is synced with the network and is up to date at latest block, but for some reason my Armory is stuck on "Connected (271641 Blocks)" I've tried opening / closing, restarting with no dice. Any ideas? I am running .89.99.14 in Ubuntu 12.04 lts. Also, I was wondering if there would be a way to configure Armory to hide the wallet balances?

[etotheipi]

My Bitcoind is synced with the network and is up to date at latest block, but for some reason my Armory is stuck on "Connected (271641 Blocks)" I've tried opening / closing, restarting with no dice. Any ideas? I am running .89.99.14 in Ubuntu 12.04 lts. Also, I was wondering if there would be a way to configure Armory to hide the wallet balances?

Send a log file to support@bitcoinarmory.com.  Then you can try doing a "Help"->"Rebuild and Rescan Databases".  If it's still stuck there... did you recently move your Bitcoin home directory?  And leave the old one intact?  I've seen it happen where Armory thinks the old home directory is the current one, but connects to Bitcoind which is working in a different directory.  Then Armory never sees any of the updated blockchain files.

[Daily Anarchist]

Any chance of Bitcoin Armory getting added to the debian repo like Electrum just did?

[btcsql]

I really wanted to like Armory, I really did. But honestly, I have had nothing but issues. I already had to redownload the entire blockchain once, which seemed to fix everything. But here, not 48 hours later, Armory is once again stuck about 50 blocks behind Bitcoind. When I try to run Armory as root it crashes right after Blockutils.cpp :3810, spitting out Segmentation Fault (core dumped). I want to get this to work and be smooth, as it should be in Ubuntu, but I am not having any luck and am a bit over it. Any ideas?

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I think the issue may be with the fact that my Virtual Environment only has 1 gigabye of RAM. I have updated to 2 gigs and thinks seem to have solved themselves. Will keep you posted. Thanks for the great work.

EDIT: issue has resurfaced -- Armory is stuck about 100 blocks behind bitcoind now, I have sent log file to support email.

[etotheipi]

I know there are some people following this thread who speak German.   I got a guy who has a lot of money stuck in Armory, and his written English is very poor.   I do not understand his situation.  Anyone knowledgeable about Armory willing to help him, or at least help translate?  I'll split any donations received with you (which may be 0 BTC, but sometimes people like this tip generously).

Let me know if you can help.  Even if you just speak german but don't know much about Armory, you can just act as a middle-man translator for our emails. 

[Daily Anarchist]

I speak german, but it's my second language. I'm confident I could translate, but why not post help needed in the german section, where you'll get plenty of native germans to help? Also, why doesn't he, or you, post his questions publicly in the german board?